I'm aware of hispanic organizations with their hispanic power attitude, like Nation of Aztlan and the National Council of La Raza. These people are a minority though and 95% of hispanics pay them no mind. Just like 95% of Anglos pay the KKK no mind.
very true; but look at all the media coverage the kkk gets and look at the uproar it caused here on the board. it only takes a spark to start a fire. look at the hatred and discrimination that 5% has caused. look at the fear that 5% has caused. you can see it on this board so imagine it on a national level. if hispanics start denouncing these organizations it would put them in a much better light. at this point in time; anyone carrying a mexican flag in america is a militant. it's not my doing but that's the way people think.
very true; but look at all the media coverage the kkk gets and look at the uproar it caused here on the board. it only takes a spark to start a fire. look at the hatred and discrimination that 5% has caused. look at the fear that 5% has caused. you can see it on this board so imagine it on a national level. if hispanics start denouncing these organizations it would put them in a much better light. at this point in time; anyone carrying a mexican flag in america is a militant. it's not my doing but that's the way people think.
I guess hispanic don't openly denounce them because most hispanics don't even know that these organizations exist. Outside of California and the Southwest most hispanics have never heard of the Nation of Aztlan or the National Council of La Raza. I heard about the Nation of Aztlan because of Ravenna. Also these organizations don't have nearly a tenth of the membership of say the KKK or the national recognition. They are a small band of idiots. I'm sure that if more hispanics knew about them you would hear more hispanics speaking out against them.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
I remember writing a paper against English-Only legislation in California in 1987 for a class. Obviously, this is not a new issue. I'm still against it or anything like it. In this day and age with the internet, and outsourcing, this type of political strategy is not conducive to thinking globally.
There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
I guess hispanic don't openly denounce them because most hispanics don't even know that these organizations exist. Outside of California and the Southwest most hispanics have never heard of the Nation of Aztlan or the National Council of La Raza. I heard about the Nation of Aztlan because of Ravenna. Also these organizations don't have nearly a tenth of the membership of say the KKK or the national recognition. They are a small band of idiots. I'm sure that if more hispanics knew about them you would hear more hispanics speaking out against them.
i heard about aztlan from revanna too. and about another from a neighbour that came here from LA. but i do agree with you.
i heard about aztlan from revanna too. and about another from a neighbour that came here from LA. but i do agree with you.
I asked a few members of my family this weekend, including my parents, and my father was the only one who heard of any of the organizations. He knew about the National Council of La Raza. Like I said unlike the KKK these organizations do not have a national following or even national recognition.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
I remember writing a paper against English-Only legislation in California in 1987 for a class. Obviously, this is not a new issue. I'm still against it or anything like it. In this day and age with the internet, and outsourcing, this type of political strategy is not conducive to thinking globally.
maybe you didn't see this so i'll repost.
arizona voted english as the official language of the state. i like to feel i'm responsable because i threatened a lawsuit and things moved very quickly. first; i was only taught english in school. if english is not the official language why was i taught it in school? i was discriminated against because i was not taught the other possible languages used in this country. second; because i don't speak spanish; the job market discriminates against me because without an official language; employers want bilingual people; thus the government is causing me to be discriminated against. thirdly; if we're going to accomidate spanish speaking people; we must also accomodate those others speaking their own languages. so i demanded the option to press 3 for polish. otherwise; they'd be discriminating against me because they accomodate one people and not another.
so the options are to either legislate an official language or waste billions in tax dollars accomodating all languages. and believe me; your taxes will increase dramatically for government services. the constitution backs me as we must be equal to all.
anyway; to answer your question; yes; america needs an official language.
very true; but look at all the media coverage the kkk gets and look at the uproar it caused here on the board. it only takes a spark to start a fire. look at the hatred and discrimination that 5% has caused. look at the fear that 5% has caused. you can see it on this board so imagine it on a national level. if hispanics start denouncing these organizations it would put them in a much better light. at this point in time; anyone carrying a mexican flag in america is a militant. it's not my doing but that's the way people think.
How much time do you spend denouncing the KKK? I know that I spend virtually no time at all, nor does any "anglo" group that I can think of. When the topic comes up, I make jokes about their intelligence and their breeding, roll my eyes, and move on to the next topic.
If they started to regain any sort of real political power and it looked like they might actually accomplish any of their lunatic goals, obviously the strategy would have to change, but for now I think to denounce them only lends them legitimacy. It implies that they are a force that needs to be reckoned with, and they're not. My guess is that the sane majority of the Hispanic population feels the same way about these fanatic Mexican groups.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
How much time do you spend denouncing the KKK? I know that I spend virtually no time at all, nor does any "anglo" group that I can think of. When the topic comes up, I make jokes about their intelligence and their breeding, roll my eyes, and move on to the next topic.
If they started to regain any sort of real political power and it looked like they might actually accomplish any of their lunatic goals, obviously the strategy would have to change, but for now I think to denounce them only lends them legitimacy. It implies that they are a force that needs to be reckoned with, and they're not. My guess is that the sane majority of the Hispanic population feels the same way about these fanatic Mexican groups.
Or maybe that's what we want you to think. Kill Whitey!!!
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Or maybe that's what we want you to think. Kill Whitey!!!
Is this going to be like one of those zombie movies, where we're all going to wake up one day and our formerly peaceful Hispanic neighbors will be wandering the streets armed to the teeth, mowing us down left and right?
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
Or maybe that's what we want you to think. Kill Whitey!!!
Oh, and one more thing .... are you in cahoots with other groups, or is this strictly a Hispanic thing? I need to know whether I should also be terrified of blacks and Asians and so on, or if you'll be killing them too. Thanks!
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
Oh, and one more thing .... are you in cahoots with other groups, or is this strictly a Hispanic thing? I need to know whether I should also be terrified of blacks and Asians and so on, or if you'll be killing them too. Thanks!
no, only arabs!
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Oh, and one more thing .... are you in cahoots with other groups, or is this strictly a Hispanic thing? I need to know whether I should also be terrified of blacks and Asians and so on, or if you'll be killing them too. Thanks!
Well I don't know about our leadership but as far as I'm concerned it's only Whitey I'm gunning for. And to answer your other question, yes the whole think will be very Night of the Living Dead like. Did you know that George Romero is half Cuban. He was laying out the master plan right before your eyes.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
maybe you didn't see this so i'll repost.
arizona voted english as the official language of the state. i like to feel i'm responsable because i threatened a lawsuit and things moved very quickly. first; i was only taught english in school. if english is not the official language why was i taught it in school? i was discriminated against because i was not taught the other possible languages used in this country. second; because i don't speak spanish; the job market discriminates against me because without an official language; employers want bilingual people; thus the government is causing me to be discriminated against. thirdly; if we're going to accomidate spanish speaking people; we must also accomodate those others speaking their own languages. so i demanded the option to press 3 for polish. otherwise; they'd be discriminating against me because they accomodate one people and not another.
so the options are to either legislate an official language or waste billions in tax dollars accomodating all languages. and believe me; your taxes will increase dramatically for government services. the constitution backs me as we must be equal to all.
anyway; to answer your question; yes; america needs an official language.
That's too bad to hear. Your enthusiasm about only thinking of yourself saddens me.
I don't know why you were only taught English in school. It should be English and at least 2 other languages like many European countries. I don't see a 2+2=4 equation that since you only speak English then the job market discriminates against you. Multi-lingualism means a person can speak to more people. Why would someone want to hire you as opposed to someone that can speak many languages if the position calls for a mulit-lingual person? If only this country embraced multi-lingualism . . . that would be something good! I would pay for increased taxes if it meant that the next generation was thinking more globally and less selfishly.
There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
Well I don't know about our leadership but as far as I'm concerned it's only Whitey I'm gunning for. And to answer your other question, yes the whole think will be very Night of the Living Dead like. Did you know that George Romero is half Cuban. He was laying out the master plan right before your eyes.
No chance for amnesty? My best friend is from Panama! My first boyfriend in junior high was Puerto Rican! I speak a little Spanish! Just tossing it out there, can't hurt, right?
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
How much time do you spend denouncing the KKK? I know that I spend virtually no time at all, nor does any "anglo" group that I can think of. When the topic comes up, I make jokes about their intelligence and their breeding, roll my eyes, and move on to the next topic.
If they started to regain any sort of real political power and it looked like they might actually accomplish any of their lunatic goals, obviously the strategy would have to change, but for now I think to denounce them only lends them legitimacy. It implies that they are a force that needs to be reckoned with, and they're not. My guess is that the sane majority of the Hispanic population feels the same way about these fanatic Mexican groups.
when i was in the public eye; quite often. when brought up in public; most white officials denounce the kkk.
i still think they should patrol the border though.
when i was in the public eye; quite often. when brought up in public; most white officials denounce the kkk.
i still think they should patrol the border though.
most? wow. how mighty big of them to do so. :rolleyes:
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That's too bad to hear. Your enthusiasm about only thinking of yourself saddens me.
I don't know why you were only taught English in school. It should be English and at least 2 other languages like many European countries. I don't see a 2+2=4 equation that since you only speak English then the job market discriminates against you. Multi-lingualism means a person can speak to more people. Why would someone want to hire you as opposed to someone that can speak many languages if the position calls for a mulit-lingual person? If only this country embraced multi-lingualism . . . that would be something good! I would pay for increased taxes if it meant that the next generation was thinking more globally and less selfishly.
I have no problem learning another language. I have a problem when i cant communicate with someone in retail because they can barely speak english.
No chance for amnesty? My best friend is from Panama! My first boyfriend in junior high was Puerto Rican! I speak a little Spanish! Just tossing it out there, can't hurt, right?
I could never hurt a fellow PJ fan. I'll make sure your all of the list, except for GutYouLikeaBarroomWhore. That kid is way to twisted in the head.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
americans amuse me when they get their noses out of joint about something. shit could you people be any whiter?
how many words within the english language come from another language you reckon? every day we as english speakers use foreign language words.
surely there's more to be concerned about than making english the official language of whitey land.
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americans amuse me when they get their noses out of joint about something. shit could you people be any whiter?
how many words within the english language come from another language you reckon? every day we as english speakers use foreign language words.
surely there's more to be concerned about than making english the official language of whitey land.
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Half the people who were born here can't speak English.
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I have no problem learning another language. I have a problem when i cant communicate with someone in retail because they can barely speak english.
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Dude... how often do you run across someone that can't speak English?
What? At a local store? At a restaurant? Take you fucking business elsewhere.
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Australia:
Caucasian 92%, Asian 7%, aboriginal and other 1%
U.S.A.:
white 81.7%, black 12.9%, Asian 4.2%, Amerindian and Alaska native 1%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.2% (2003 est.)
note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean a person of Latin American descent (including persons of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin) living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.)
Apparently, we could be whiter. We could be you.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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Dude... how often do you run across someone that can't speak English?
What? At a local store? At a restaurant? Take you fucking business elsewhere.
I live in a predominant hispanic neighborhood and I haven't run across anyone working in a store who can't speak english. their english may not be perfect but it's good enough to get their job done.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
I live in a predominant hispanic neighborhood and I haven't run across anyone working in a store who can't speak english. their english may not be perfect but it's good enough to get their job done.
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Me, too. I happen to love Tacos Asada y Cervesa Corona so I pop on down to Hawaiian Gardens (which has nothing in the vaguest relation to anything Hawaiian) for the Tacos. They speak enough English for los Gringos-types, like moi... besides, how tough is it to get tacos? I can just point at the menu if I had to.
It's on them to learn the language and they get enough to get by.
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and what about the Americans who work for years in Saudi Arabia... should they learn to be fluent in Arabic? Or just enough to get by. Are they assholes because some Arab fuck can't understand their broken Arabic... or is the Arab fuck the asshole?
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Australia:
Caucasian 92%, Asian 7%, aboriginal and other 1%
U.S.A.:
white 81.7%, black 12.9%, Asian 4.2%, Amerindian and Alaska native 1%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.2% (2003 est.)
note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean a person of Latin American descent (including persons of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin) living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.)
Apparently, we could be whiter. We could be you.
oh touche jeff.
it just seems much ado about nothing to me is all.
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and what about the Americans who work for years in Saudi Arabia... should they learn to be fluent in Arabic? Or just enough to get by. Are they assholes because some Arab fuck can't understand their broken Arabic... or is the Arab fuck the asshole?
Good point. II know that there are immigrants out there that have no desire to learn the language. You know tough shit on them if they have a hard time getting by, but most immigrants want to learn the language. What we have to styart realizing is that it doesn't happen over night. It's going to take some time for that person to learn the language and we should at least be tolerant of their lack of mastery of English. The biggest pet peeve of mine is when I hear some idiot complain about the multiple language option on an ATM. Is it really an inconvenience for you to have to hit that extra button to select english.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
big woop. it doesn't particularly bother me that someone can't speak my language. even in our supposed common home.
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The problem is... the ones I speak of are the ones who are more likely to compalin about speaking Spanish.
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I just learn the cuss words in Spanish... that way I can tell if they'll calling me an culo or a hoto.
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very true; but look at all the media coverage the kkk gets and look at the uproar it caused here on the board. it only takes a spark to start a fire. look at the hatred and discrimination that 5% has caused. look at the fear that 5% has caused. you can see it on this board so imagine it on a national level. if hispanics start denouncing these organizations it would put them in a much better light. at this point in time; anyone carrying a mexican flag in america is a militant. it's not my doing but that's the way people think.
I guess hispanic don't openly denounce them because most hispanics don't even know that these organizations exist. Outside of California and the Southwest most hispanics have never heard of the Nation of Aztlan or the National Council of La Raza. I heard about the Nation of Aztlan because of Ravenna. Also these organizations don't have nearly a tenth of the membership of say the KKK or the national recognition. They are a small band of idiots. I'm sure that if more hispanics knew about them you would hear more hispanics speaking out against them.
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
i heard about aztlan from revanna too. and about another from a neighbour that came here from LA. but i do agree with you.
I asked a few members of my family this weekend, including my parents, and my father was the only one who heard of any of the organizations. He knew about the National Council of La Raza. Like I said unlike the KKK these organizations do not have a national following or even national recognition.
maybe you didn't see this so i'll repost.
arizona voted english as the official language of the state. i like to feel i'm responsable because i threatened a lawsuit and things moved very quickly. first; i was only taught english in school. if english is not the official language why was i taught it in school? i was discriminated against because i was not taught the other possible languages used in this country. second; because i don't speak spanish; the job market discriminates against me because without an official language; employers want bilingual people; thus the government is causing me to be discriminated against. thirdly; if we're going to accomidate spanish speaking people; we must also accomodate those others speaking their own languages. so i demanded the option to press 3 for polish. otherwise; they'd be discriminating against me because they accomodate one people and not another.
so the options are to either legislate an official language or waste billions in tax dollars accomodating all languages. and believe me; your taxes will increase dramatically for government services. the constitution backs me as we must be equal to all.
anyway; to answer your question; yes; america needs an official language.
If they started to regain any sort of real political power and it looked like they might actually accomplish any of their lunatic goals, obviously the strategy would have to change, but for now I think to denounce them only lends them legitimacy. It implies that they are a force that needs to be reckoned with, and they're not. My guess is that the sane majority of the Hispanic population feels the same way about these fanatic Mexican groups.
Or maybe that's what we want you to think. Kill Whitey!!!
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Well I don't know about our leadership but as far as I'm concerned it's only Whitey I'm gunning for. And to answer your other question, yes the whole think will be very Night of the Living Dead like. Did you know that George Romero is half Cuban. He was laying out the master plan right before your eyes.
I don't know why you were only taught English in school. It should be English and at least 2 other languages like many European countries. I don't see a 2+2=4 equation that since you only speak English then the job market discriminates against you. Multi-lingualism means a person can speak to more people. Why would someone want to hire you as opposed to someone that can speak many languages if the position calls for a mulit-lingual person? If only this country embraced multi-lingualism . . . that would be something good! I would pay for increased taxes if it meant that the next generation was thinking more globally and less selfishly.
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
when i was in the public eye; quite often. when brought up in public; most white officials denounce the kkk.
i still think they should patrol the border though.
most? wow. how mighty big of them to do so. :rolleyes:
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this could be the day
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I have no problem learning another language. I have a problem when i cant communicate with someone in retail because they can barely speak english.
I could never hurt a fellow PJ fan. I'll make sure your all of the list, except for GutYouLikeaBarroomWhore. That kid is way to twisted in the head.
how many words within the english language come from another language you reckon? every day we as english speakers use foreign language words.
surely there's more to be concerned about than making english the official language of whitey land.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Half the people who were born here can't speak English.
Hail, Hail!!!
Dude... how often do you run across someone that can't speak English?
What? At a local store? At a restaurant? Take you fucking business elsewhere.
Hail, Hail!!!
Australia:
Caucasian 92%, Asian 7%, aboriginal and other 1%
U.S.A.:
white 81.7%, black 12.9%, Asian 4.2%, Amerindian and Alaska native 1%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.2% (2003 est.)
note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean a person of Latin American descent (including persons of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin) living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.)
Apparently, we could be whiter. We could be you.
I live in a predominant hispanic neighborhood and I haven't run across anyone working in a store who can't speak english. their english may not be perfect but it's good enough to get their job done.
Me, too. I happen to love Tacos Asada y Cervesa Corona so I pop on down to Hawaiian Gardens (which has nothing in the vaguest relation to anything Hawaiian) for the Tacos. They speak enough English for los Gringos-types, like moi... besides, how tough is it to get tacos? I can just point at the menu if I had to.
It's on them to learn the language and they get enough to get by.
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and what about the Americans who work for years in Saudi Arabia... should they learn to be fluent in Arabic? Or just enough to get by. Are they assholes because some Arab fuck can't understand their broken Arabic... or is the Arab fuck the asshole?
Hail, Hail!!!
oh touche jeff.
it just seems much ado about nothing to me is all.
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this could be the day
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i just need to say
big woop. it doesn't particularly bother me that someone can't speak my language. even in our supposed common home.
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lie beside me
i just need to say
Good point. II know that there are immigrants out there that have no desire to learn the language. You know tough shit on them if they have a hard time getting by, but most immigrants want to learn the language. What we have to styart realizing is that it doesn't happen over night. It's going to take some time for that person to learn the language and we should at least be tolerant of their lack of mastery of English. The biggest pet peeve of mine is when I hear some idiot complain about the multiple language option on an ATM. Is it really an inconvenience for you to have to hit that extra button to select english.
The problem is... the ones I speak of are the ones who are more likely to compalin about speaking Spanish.
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I just learn the cuss words in Spanish... that way I can tell if they'll calling me an culo or a hoto.
Hail, Hail!!!
sorry cate; the most was a typo except for 1 governor many years ago.