How is she being a 'slut'? It would be interesting to hear just exactly what the difference between the girl and the guy doing the act, why is she a slut?
I have had so many conversations with various women trying to convince them that guys are not the shitty stereotype idiots like you portray, but fuck does your stupidity make it difficult to argue my point.
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They are both in the wrong.... Jesus, you people are so quick to judge and jump to conclusions. Would you not agree that some freshman chick who gets wasted and fucks some random guy is not a slut? The random guy is an idiot too! But that's just from my perspective - to each his own.
I don't feel like reading this whole thread but this argument right here is ridiculous. You can't compare making sexist comments to rape. I agree, that they have no case, and they knew what they were doing when they signed the agreement, and should have to deal with it. But your analogy is not good.
its not ridiculous. i admitted that it was extreme, but its not ridiculous. someone else used drunk driving as an example, which may have been more appropriate, but my point was that both rape and racism are wrong and blaming either on alcohol is senseless. would you not agree that both are wrong? would you not agree that blaming either on alcohol is wrong?
hippiemom made a great point. from what we can tell, none of these guys have apologized for their remarks, they are just worried that they were made to look like fools. which i'm sure would have been just as easy to accomplish w/o any alcohol.
They are both in the wrong.... Jesus, you people are so quick to judge and jump to conclusions. Would you not agree that some freshman chick who gets wasted and fucks some random guy is not a slut? The random guy is an idiot too! But that's just from my perspective - to each his own.
The word 'slut' is a ridiculous term and its use is offensive in so far as it is incredibly sexist, for example, whats the male equivalent? I apologise for the agressive language, that was a rflection of my own immaturity, I jumped the gun.
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We all say thins we don't mean when were drunk.I don know anything about this journalist but it sound's like he's an idiot.Good luck to the frat boy's!
I’d thank my lucky stars,
to be livin here today.
‘Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can’t take that away.
And I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.
I have no problem with this if the contract was signed while drunk, and the other party knew the girls were drunk.
ok, then let's see if you're truly consistent... if a girl is drunk at a party, and a girl is harassing her all night for sex, and she's wasted and finally gives in.... should he be convicted of rape? he knew she was drunk. so is her consent then invalid and he should have known that?
ok, then let's see if you're truly consistent... if a girl is drunk at a party, and a girl is harassing her all night for sex, and she's wasted and finally gives in.... should he be convicted of rape? he knew she was drunk. so is her consent then invalid and he should have known that?
That's not rape, not even close. To the best of their abilities they both gave consent for their immediate actions. But they should and are legally allowed to have sober second thoughts on some long-term consequences of consent while given drunk.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
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That's not rape, not even close. To the best of their abilities they both gave consent for their immediate actions. But they should and are legally allowed to have sober second thoughts on some long-term consequences of consent while given drunk.
what the hell does that mean? did these fratboys not give consent to their immediate actions to the best of their ability?
if they are legally allowed second thoughts, doesnt that mean any girl should be able to turn around and sue any guy who has sex with her while she's drunk?
SO true. I was in a fraternity, some of the most fun i ever had. But i was never racist or sexist in any way, unless you think trying to pick up women is sexist.
I hope she wasn't a woman of a different heritage.
The word 'slut' is a ridiculous term and its use is offensive in so far as it is incredibly sexist, for example, whats the male equivalent? I apologise for the agressive language, that was a rflection of my own immaturity, I jumped the gun.
Just saw Borat yesterday...I believe if this is the case than everyone in the movie except Borat himself has a reason to sue the hell out of the filmakers...
And I mean Americans as a group, because pfff you guys did not come of to well...neither did the Kazachstanian people. I believe Pamela came of best.
I must say my mouth fell wide open when I heard what these boys had to say about women...I do believe deep down thats how they feel, very very frustrated indeed.. You know what they say about drunk people and telling the truth!
Why not be mediocre and be the best at it that you can be?
This is hilarious. I'm from the UK, and when I saw that scene I thought 'Yep, actors. This is fake. People surely aren't THAT stupid, not even American frat boys.'
Alas...
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
like they don't act that way every time their dumbasses get drunk anyway! fucking idiots. it's okay to be racist and sexist and ethnocentric around your FRAT BROTHERS...but, no one else can know the true you...piss off, idiots! ha! this further proves my fact that frat boys serve no purpose to society other than feeding the human fires that warm some areas of the country.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Fuck those guys. They're embarressed and their rich daddies don't want his business associates to see his kin like that. They said it, they signed it, they deal with it. Sacha is a genious. He's almost too good at bringing out the worst in people.
Just saw Borat yesterday...I believe if this is the case than everyone in the movie except Borat himself has a reason to sue the hell out of the filmakers...
And I mean Americans as a group, because pfff you guys did not come of to well...neither did the Kazachstanian people. I believe Pamela came of best.
I must say my mouth fell wide open when I heard what these boys had to say about women...I do believe deep down thats how they feel, very very frustrated indeed.. You know what they say about drunk people and telling the truth!
These guys weren't forced to say anything they wouldn't have done in normal life. They deserve what they get, as does the guy who was in charge of the Rodeo. 'Shave off your moustache so that you look less like a Muslim.' What a f'in twat.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
These guys weren't forced to say anything they wouldn't have done in normal life. They deserve what they get, as does the guy who was in charge of the Rodeo. 'Shave off your moustache so that you look less like a Muslim.' What a f'in twat.
exactly.
you knew you were on camera, you even signed a release form, so deal with it.
This is hilarious. I'm from the UK, and when I saw that scene I thought 'Yep, actors. This is fake. People surely aren't THAT stupid, not even American frat boys.'
Alas...
Lmao!
I know, I could not believe that this was real, fuck, these guys are in UNI?!
I would be interested to see a kind of follow up thing to see what has happened to the people in the film that protrayed such predjudiced views now that they and their views have had such a large exposure.
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Lmao!
I know, I could not believe that this was real, fuck, these guys are in UNI?!
I would be interested to see a kind of follow up thing to see what has happened to the people in the film that protrayed such predjudiced views now that they and their views have had such a large exposure.
They'll probably join the military.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
At least they wouldn't have to worry about people misquoting them.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Seriously, these guys are only upset because now everybody knows what THOSE (notice how I didn't include all frat boys what so ever) assholes think. Thinking women should be slaves to be used however they want. Thinking "Whites" don't have enough power anymore. And fuck the "But I was Drunk!"
Alcohol does not simply put new ideas into your fucking head. Seriously, Miller. Go get shit faced. Now come back and tell me if you have this new awesome idea that liberals are on the right track. I can tell you right now you didnt. Alcohol merely loosens your stupid fucking tongue. (No miller, I was talking about your tongue spefically. I was speaking generally.)
And has for YOU Dino...when did you get up on the "Oh, they're just talking". What the fuck is that all about. I bet...no...I fucking KNOW that if those guys had been bashing Bush you would be right there saying "Those guys get what the deserve! :: thumbs up::".
you knew you were on camera, you even signed a release form, so deal with it.
Yeah this is what freaked, me out. More so the guy at the Rodeo. I mean he couldn't use the drunk excuse. He was stone cold sober. I just don't know how someone can be that twisted. Plus I think it was interesting to see the overwhelming cheer's after Borat said "George Bush should drink the blood of every Iraqi man, woman and child". Hope all those cheering morons are proud of themselves now that the whole world has seen them in action.
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Yeah this is what freaked, me out. More so the guy at the Rodeo. I mean he couldn't use the drunk excuse. He was stone cold sober. I just don't know how someone can be that twisted. Plus I think it was interesting to see the overwhelming cheer's after Borat said "George Bush should drink the blood of every Iraqi man, woman and child". Hope all those cheering morons are proud of themselves now that the whole world has seen them in action.
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They've probably thought no more about it. You could show them the film in their own homes and they'd probably say 'Yeah, so...?'
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
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They are both in the wrong.... Jesus, you people are so quick to judge and jump to conclusions. Would you not agree that some freshman chick who gets wasted and fucks some random guy is not a slut? The random guy is an idiot too! But that's just from my perspective - to each his own.
he gets them while he is LOL'ing
its not ridiculous. i admitted that it was extreme, but its not ridiculous. someone else used drunk driving as an example, which may have been more appropriate, but my point was that both rape and racism are wrong and blaming either on alcohol is senseless. would you not agree that both are wrong? would you not agree that blaming either on alcohol is wrong?
hippiemom made a great point. from what we can tell, none of these guys have apologized for their remarks, they are just worried that they were made to look like fools. which i'm sure would have been just as easy to accomplish w/o any alcohol.
The word 'slut' is a ridiculous term and its use is offensive in so far as it is incredibly sexist, for example, whats the male equivalent? I apologise for the agressive language, that was a rflection of my own immaturity, I jumped the gun.
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when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
to be livin here today.
‘Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can’t take that away.
And I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.
change all to most and rape to coerce.... and id say yeah.
ok, then let's see if you're truly consistent... if a girl is drunk at a party, and a girl is harassing her all night for sex, and she's wasted and finally gives in.... should he be convicted of rape? he knew she was drunk. so is her consent then invalid and he should have known that?
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
what the hell does that mean? did these fratboys not give consent to their immediate actions to the best of their ability?
if they are legally allowed second thoughts, doesnt that mean any girl should be able to turn around and sue any guy who has sex with her while she's drunk?
your answer makes no sense.
I hope she wasn't a woman of a different heritage.
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I just spit my beer out on this one. Pot calling the kettle.......
And I mean Americans as a group, because pfff you guys did not come of to well...neither did the Kazachstanian people. I believe Pamela came of best.
I must say my mouth fell wide open when I heard what these boys had to say about women...I do believe deep down thats how they feel, very very frustrated indeed.. You know what they say about drunk people and telling the truth!
Alas...
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Fuck those guys. They're embarressed and their rich daddies don't want his business associates to see his kin like that. They said it, they signed it, they deal with it. Sacha is a genious. He's almost too good at bringing out the worst in people.
http://www.wishlistfoundation.org
Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
These guys weren't forced to say anything they wouldn't have done in normal life. They deserve what they get, as does the guy who was in charge of the Rodeo. 'Shave off your moustache so that you look less like a Muslim.' What a f'in twat.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
you knew you were on camera, you even signed a release form, so deal with it.
http://www.wishlistfoundation.org
Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
Lmao!
I know, I could not believe that this was real, fuck, these guys are in UNI?!
I would be interested to see a kind of follow up thing to see what has happened to the people in the film that protrayed such predjudiced views now that they and their views have had such a large exposure.
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They'll probably join the military.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Or start speaking in tongues and turn to God.
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At least they wouldn't have to worry about people misquoting them.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Lmao, that had me in stiches.
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NIICE! HIGH FIVE!
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Alcohol does not simply put new ideas into your fucking head. Seriously, Miller. Go get shit faced. Now come back and tell me if you have this new awesome idea that liberals are on the right track. I can tell you right now you didnt. Alcohol merely loosens your stupid fucking tongue. (No miller, I was talking about your tongue spefically. I was speaking generally.)
And has for YOU Dino...when did you get up on the "Oh, they're just talking". What the fuck is that all about. I bet...no...I fucking KNOW that if those guys had been bashing Bush you would be right there saying "Those guys get what the deserve! :: thumbs up::".
Jinqui!
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Yeah this is what freaked, me out. More so the guy at the Rodeo. I mean he couldn't use the drunk excuse. He was stone cold sober. I just don't know how someone can be that twisted. Plus I think it was interesting to see the overwhelming cheer's after Borat said "George Bush should drink the blood of every Iraqi man, woman and child". Hope all those cheering morons are proud of themselves now that the whole world has seen them in action.
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They've probably thought no more about it. You could show them the film in their own homes and they'd probably say 'Yeah, so...?'
- the great Sir Leo Harrison