Humiliated Frat Boys Sue 'Borat'

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  • Hope&Anger
    Hope&Anger Posts: 260
    What troubles me is the clogging of our judicial system with these frivolous lawsuits.

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  • Cree Nations
    Cree Nations Posts: 2,247
    Everyone had to expect that it would be the members of fraternities in the pit to defend these guys, its their right. One of the most interesting things about frats and the people that join them is the fact that fraternities breed republicans/conservatives (of course not all but a high percentage) and this thread is proof of that.
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  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    Thank you for offending me. I'm a member of a fraternity, graduated from college but still a member. To say frat boys are worthless pieces of garbage would be like me saying all hippie liberal douches smell like shit, which we all no is not true. Not ALL of them smell just some of them.

    you should have used your college education to increase your reading comprehension because i said there is a disparity between the frat boy and the member of a fraternity. this difference has been "debated" her, at length before. i thought it was clearly obvious that i was making that distinction, and in my original post talked about "frat boys" as opposed to members of a fraternity. would you like to have the discussion about that disparity or now? or, is it understood?
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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    sweet adeline wrote:
    for those of you defending these guys, would you also defend them if they had been filmed raping a girl but were "humiliated" because it was in the borat movie?

    i know the example is extreme, but they are blaming alcohol for their stupid behavior and thats a fucking cop out.

    I think these guys are idiots and are wasting the court's time by suing but that example is like comparing apples to monkeys.
  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    you should have used your college education to increase your reading comprehension because i said there is a disparity between the frat boy and the member of a fraternity. this difference has been "debated" her, at length before. i thought it was clearly obvious that i was making that distinction, and in my original post talked about "frat boys" as opposed to members of a fraternity. would you like to have the discussion about that disparity or now? or, is it understood?

    I see what you are saying: Fraternity members is not a negative, but "Frat Boy" is.

    That still lends itself to the stereotype. Kind of reminds me of those people that say "there are black people, and there are n*****s" Then again, I'm "PC"
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  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    I wasn't there, and I haven't seen the movie so I don't know what was said or done. But if these guys were duped into signing a movie release form, then that is fucked up - regardless if they are "frat boy pieces of shit" or not.
  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    zstillings wrote:
    I think these guys are idiots and are wasting the court's time by suing but that example is like comparing apples to monkeys.

    well, it's more like comparing apples on a tree, to burnt apples...the things are the same manifestations of behavior...one is just a more extreme form of the behavior. apples and monkeys are nothing alike, while being an idiot and raping a girl are just gradations of behaving in an undesirable way.
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  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    zstillings wrote:
    I think these guys are idiots and are wasting the court's time by suing but that example is like comparing apples to monkeys.

    Apples are small and can be placed in your brown bag lunch. Very convenient. But monkeys taste better. :)

    (no I agree, it's a bad example because unlike rape, what they did was not illegal)
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  • Cree Nations
    Cree Nations Posts: 2,247
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    I see what you are saying: Fraternity members is not a negative, but "Frat Boy" is.

    That still lends itself to the stereotype. Kind of reminds me of those people that say "there are black people, and there are n*****s" Then again, I'm "PC"

    OH my...did you just compare people saying "frat boys" with people saying "Niggaz"? You did!
    ...oh dear.. that was funny
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  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    Cree Nations wrote:
    Everyone had to expect that it would be the members of fraternities in the pit to defend these guys, its their right. One of the most interesting things about frats and the people that join them is the fact that fraternities breed republicans/conservatives (of course not all but a high percentage) and this thread is proof of that.

    hence the priveledged, unapologetic sterotype =)
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    NCfan wrote:
    I wasn't there, and I haven't seen the movie so I don't know what was said or done. But if these guys were duped into signing a movie release form, then that is fucked up - regardless if they are "frat boy pieces of shit" or not.
    How can you be "duped" into signing something? I said earlier, you must be sober (although not smart) to sign the release.
  • Cree Nations
    Cree Nations Posts: 2,247
    NCfan wrote:
    hence the priveledged, unapologetic sterotype =)
    HAH!
    :D
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  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    I see what you are saying: Fraternity members is not a negative, but "Frat Boy" is.

    That still lends itself to the stereotype. Kind of reminds me of those people that say "there are black people, and there are n*****s" Then again, I'm "PC"

    a stereotype would be saying that ALL members of fraternities act like fray boys by their very inclusion in a fraternity. some fraternities have frat boys...some frats have fraternity members...some are full-on frats and some are full on fraternities...it's merely breaking down a population into subpopulations rather than lumping the entire population into one negative group. by their very action, captured on video, i think, it is safe to classify these individuals into the frat boy class...
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  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    cutback wrote:
    How can you be "duped" into signing something? I said earlier, you must be sober (although not smart) to sign the release.

    Gee you're right, that must be impossible. I'm sure these frat guys were so fucking juiced on how rad their life is that they wanted the whole world to see, huh!
  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    NCfan wrote:
    Gee you're right, that must be impossible. I'm sure these frat guys were so fucking juiced on how rad their life is that they wanted the whole world to see, huh!

    no, i would guess that they didn't read the release form. but, i bet, they thought it was really cool and told all of their friends how cool and funny it was.
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    This law suit has nothing to do with honor. These kids are simply pissed they aren't being paid part of that huge sum of money this movie will be making.

    That's what it's about.

    In the end about 98% of all lawsuits are about money.


    I promise you it's nothing these kids haven't said infront of anyone else, they are just pissed they aren't getting a slice of that pie.
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  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    Cree Nations wrote:
    OH my...did you just compare people saying "frat boys" with people saying "Niggaz"? You did!
    ...oh dear.. that was funny

    Better than the above "stupid talk to rape" comparison. The social significance is not the same and I am not saying it is. But the "...however, I think some are..." is similar. It's saying "I am not prejudiced against these people, but there seem to be a lot that i do not like."
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  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    zstillings wrote:
    I think these guys are idiots and are wasting the court's time by suing but that example is like comparing apples to monkeys.

    i agree, its a waste of time because they are wrong.

    they did something stupid and are using alcohol as an excuse. i think the example i used was appropriate. racism and bigotry is dispicable. but some people are saying because they were drunk that its okay, which it isn't.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    NCfan wrote:
    I wasn't there, and I haven't seen the movie so I don't know what was said or done. But if these guys were duped into signing a movie release form, then that is fucked up - regardless if they are "frat boy pieces of shit" or not.

    but if you dupe one of the drunk (underage) freshman girls into sucking your dick at one of your frat parties... that's ok right? it's not rape right?
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    soulsinging wrote:
    but if you dupe one of the drunk (underage) freshman girls into sucking your dick at one of your frat parties... that's ok right? it's not rape right?

    im gonna quote myself becos you ignored this once and i know you'll do it again cos you have no response to it.

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