White Supremacist groups on the rise in U.S.

brianlux

 I've recently started reading James Bradley's book The Imperial Cruise and realizing in the early going of this book (great so far!) that white supremacy and the belief in the Aryan Myth goes back deeper in our culture that I realized.  Bradley talks about some of our national figures who were steeped in Aryan Myth/ white supremacist thought:

Theodore Roosevelt.  Roosevelt was raised with a white supremacist background as his southern belle mother told him stories that were full of racism.  He later studied under Professor John Burgess who taught that "only white people could  rule because the Teuton [an ancient Germanic tribe] had created the idea of the state".  Teddy was a Burgess fanatic.  He was also a phony outdoors man.  As Bradly puts it, "more soft blankets than barbed wire".  He was a sickly, wealthy, aristocratic child who early on realized he would not go far in life unless he made himself look tough. He went to a lot of effort  to make himself appear as though he were a great outdoors man. For example, he had staged photographs supposing to make him look like a rugged hunter. 

Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.  A favorite poem of Theodore Roosevelt's was Longfellow's "The Saga of King Olaf".  It's no wonder-- that poem is a celebration of Teutonic White supremacy. 

Charles Darwin.  Darwin praised "the great stream of Anglo-Saxon emigration to the west."  He also stated, in The Descent of Man, "At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace throughout the world the savage races"

Ralph Waldo Emerson.  A big fan of Tacitus, the Roman senator and historian who wrote that long ago "the peoples of Germany [were] a race untainted by intermarriage with other races. a peculiar people and pure, like no one but themselves [with] a high moral code and individual rights..." (from Germania)

Thomas Jefferson.  Besides being a slave owner, Jefferson "justified Colonial America's breaking its ties with Mother England as a return to a better time when his Aryan ancestors had lived in liberty."  When asked to make a suggestion for the Great Seal of the United States, Jefferson suggested the two Teuton brothers who founded the Anglo-Saxon race.

Peter Burnett.  The mid 1800's California governor said, "That a war of extermination will continue to be waged between the two races until the Indian race has become extinct must be expected... The inevitable destiny of the [White} race is beyond the power of man to avert."

And this of course is just the tip of the iceberg.  It's no wonder race issues are still a big problem in America (and elsewhere).  Racial prejudice is deeply embedded in our blood. Better education and a deeper, truer understanding of history  would go a long way in lessening this problem.

Halifax2TheMax

Charlottesville incel convicted of 1st degree murder. Will Team Trump Treason pardon him or was it all state charges?

my2hands

Halifax2TheMax said:

Charlottesville incel convicted of 1st degree murder. Will Team Trump Treason pardon him or was it all state charges?

Good, hope he burns in hell

Bentleyspop

Halifax2TheMax said:

Charlottesville incel convicted of 1st degree murder. Will Team Trump Treason pardon him or was it all state charges?

He'll be right at home with his white supremacist incel AB brethren

rgambs

Reading the first page of this thread was awful!  People may decry the "echo chamber", but damn, there were some mad racists/xenophobes posting all over the place!
I'm glad they've been weeded out.

mickeyrat

  https://www.npr.org/2018/12/11/675682912/charlottesville-jury-recommends-419-years-plus-life-for-neo-nazi-who-killed-prot?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2041&fbclid=IwAR1kOojJKuuXniNtF8ghyowzjyCDWfIuj3tggoIbgKHmEAVWQAMlOcbxE5U

PJ_Soul

Halifax2TheMax said:

Charlottesville incel convicted of 1st degree murder. Will Team Trump Treason pardon him or was it all state charges?

I didn't even realize that he's also an incel. Wow, what a guy.

OnWis97

PJ_Soul said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Charlottesville incel convicted of 1st degree murder. Will Team Trump Treason pardon him or was it all state charges?

I didn't even realize that he's also an incel. Wow, what a guy.

Well, "incel" isn't a group.  It's just the label the left puts on angry white conservative males.  It's like the left's only version of libtard, cuck, and all the other names the right uses to demonize it's domestic enemies.  I don't really use it because it just seems like we're taking a cue from them.

PJ_Soul

OnWis97 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Charlottesville incel convicted of 1st degree murder. Will Team Trump Treason pardon him or was it all state charges?

I didn't even realize that he's also an incel. Wow, what a guy.

Well, "incel" isn't a group.  It's just the label the left puts on angry white conservative males.  It's like the left's only version of libtard, cuck, and all the other names the right uses to demonize it's domestic enemies.  I don't really use it because it just seems like we're taking a cue from them.

Incel isn't an organized group, but incels do self-identify as such and are a very real thing, and as a woman I find it offensive that you're turning the real existence of incels (one of whom killed many Canadians in a terrorist attack in Toronto earlier this year) into some kind of insult directed at the left. You're dead wrong about incel being a term equivalent to cuck and libtard in general. You have no idea what you're talking about if you think that and are disrespecting the real victims of real incels. You're also depreciating the threat of them as a growing movement and sub-culture, which they are.

That said, does this guy identify as an incel or not, or at least have all the defining qualities of those who do? If not, then yeah, ALL people need to stop misusing the term, just like you need to stop saying what you just said about it.

mickeyrat

PJ_Soul said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Charlottesville incel convicted of 1st degree murder. Will Team Trump Treason pardon him or was it all state charges?

I didn't even realize that he's also an incel. Wow, what a guy.

reads as opinion to me. link a source where he identifies as such.

OnWis97

PJ_Soul said:

OnWis97 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Charlottesville incel convicted of 1st degree murder. Will Team Trump Treason pardon him or was it all state charges?

I didn't even realize that he's also an incel. Wow, what a guy.

Well, "incel" isn't a group.  It's just the label the left puts on angry white conservative males.  It's like the left's only version of libtard, cuck, and all the other names the right uses to demonize it's domestic enemies.  I don't really use it because it just seems like we're taking a cue from them.

Incel isn't an organized group, but incels do self-identify as such and are a very real thing, and as a woman I find it offensive that you're turning the real existence of incels (one of whom killed many Canadians in a terrorist attack in Toronto earlier this year) into some kind of insult directed at the left. You're dead wrong about incel being a term equivalent to cuck and libtard in general. You have no idea what you're talking about if you think that and are disrespecting the real victims of real incels. You're also depreciating the threat of them as a growing movement and sub-culture, which they are.

That said, does this guy identify as an incel or not, or at least have all the defining qualities of those who do? If not, then yeah, ALL people need to stop misusing the term, just like you need to stop saying what you just said about it.

I literally had no idea that there were people that self-identified as incels.  I mean, I was involuntarily-celibate into my sophomore year of college but I didn't brag about it (nor want anyone to know).  I thought it was just something we used to insult angry white dudes that aren't doing so well with the ladies.

(googles the term...)

Wow.  I did not know.  It's hard to keep up with this crap nowadays. So, sorry for the confusion.  Though I do see it thrown at right-wing clowns at time.

PJ_Soul

OnWis97 said:

PJ_Soul said:

OnWis97 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Charlottesville incel convicted of 1st degree murder. Will Team Trump Treason pardon him or was it all state charges?

I didn't even realize that he's also an incel. Wow, what a guy.

Well, "incel" isn't a group.  It's just the label the left puts on angry white conservative males.  It's like the left's only version of libtard, cuck, and all the other names the right uses to demonize it's domestic enemies.  I don't really use it because it just seems like we're taking a cue from them.

Incel isn't an organized group, but incels do self-identify as such and are a very real thing, and as a woman I find it offensive that you're turning the real existence of incels (one of whom killed many Canadians in a terrorist attack in Toronto earlier this year) into some kind of insult directed at the left. You're dead wrong about incel being a term equivalent to cuck and libtard in general. You have no idea what you're talking about if you think that and are disrespecting the real victims of real incels. You're also depreciating the threat of them as a growing movement and sub-culture, which they are.

That said, does this guy identify as an incel or not, or at least have all the defining qualities of those who do? If not, then yeah, ALL people need to stop misusing the term, just like you need to stop saying what you just said about it.

I literally had no idea that there were people that self-identified as incels.  I mean, I was involuntarily-celibate into my sophomore year of college but I didn't brag about it (nor want anyone to know).  I thought it was just something we used to insult angry white dudes that aren't doing so well with the ladies.

(googles the term...)

Wow.  I did not know.  It's hard to keep up with this crap nowadays. So, sorry for the confusion.  Though I do see it thrown at right-wing clowns at time.

Lol, I'm sorry for getting mad then - It didn't occur to me you really didn't know that! Yeah, these incels are crazy.

This isn't the first time I've gotten pissy about the term being misused btw - I suppose I gave an earful when someone who just couldn't find a GF called himself one, haha.