so yesterday I pull up next to a hummer

BackwardsBlues1

at a gas station out in asheville. this family clearly on a road trip is filling up. All I can think is I am *dying* to ask this guy why is driving one of those things (and he's got kids to boot, you'd think he'd be wanting to leave some oil and some clean air around for them) anyway, it turns out I didn't have to say anything because his kid (prolly about 9) did! the kid goes, "dad, isn't this car bad for the environment?"

ha! I unfortunately couldn't hear the dad's response, but I thought it was awesome.

denverfan

People dont give a shit...if gas we're 10 bucks a gallon they'd still drive that piece of shit!

mwachsman

I'm sure the dad told his son that he works hard for his money and he can do as he so choses with it. Why do I buy a car that gets low gas mileage? Becuase I can. Then he probably lectured his kid on how bad it is to be a hippie.

ThreeCrookedHearts

And his dad's response was, "Son, quit listening to that hippie shit they're teaching you in school."

Flannel Shirt

ThreeCrookedHearts wrote:

And his dad's response was, "Son, quit listening to that hippie shit they're teaching you in school."

and...
"...besides, you will get used to swimming to the store and school and everywhere else. if anything, I am making you HEALTHIER by driving this vehicle. think of how ripped you will be with all the swimming. and, who cares if the air is so bad it will cause lung cancer, there will be a cure for it by the time you 50. so go tell your granola eating, pot smoking teachers we got it all figured out. besides, ww3 will wipe out the planet in the next few years anyway, so sit down and shut up, and enjoy the ride while it lasts."

binauralsounds

My response to you would be of course.. Because not only that I CAN, because I WANT to. and then politely explain that it is none of your business to question what i drive and to politely ask you to step aside.

late!

onelongsong

BackwardsBlues1 wrote:

at a gas station out in asheville. this family clearly on a road trip is filling up. All I can think is I am *dying* to ask this guy why is driving one of those things (and he's got kids to boot, you'd think he'd be wanting to leave some oil and some clean air around for them) anyway, it turns out I didn't have to say anything because his kid (prolly about 9) did! the kid goes, "dad, isn't this car bad for the environment?"

ha! I unfortunately couldn't hear the dad's response, but I thought it was awesome.

why do i drive a 1 ton 4x4? because i live in a remote area and a good 4x4 is needed. i haul hay for my animals and will drive cross country to buy the best buffalo; thus i need it to haul the trailer.
you can't assume people drive what they want. some have to drive what they need to.

binauralsounds

and let's not forget, if we have the means, we can drive whatever da hell we want. it is nobodys business WHY i have what i have!!

rightondude

Hummers are fun to drive?!? If's you like driving a brick on wheels. They are so SLOOOOwwww....6,400 lbs curbside weight!

I like my power to weight ratio in the 2700 lb zone with 250+ hp with lots of low end grunt and turboharged.

Dealers say Hummers average 8 to 10 mpg, while General Motors, which markets and distributes the latest version of the vehicle, the Hummer H2, puts the figure at 10-13 mpg. By comparison, the Ford Expedition gets 14-19 mpg, and the three-quarter ton Chevy Suburban gets 13-17 mpg.

"It's irresponsible to put a car like this on the road," said Gary Skulnik, of the Sierra Club.

hippiemom

onelongsong wrote:

why do i drive a 1 ton 4x4? because i live in a remote area and a good 4x4 is needed. i haul hay for my animals and will drive cross country to buy the best buffalo; thus i need it to haul the trailer.
you can't assume people drive what they want. some have to drive what they need to.

There are many good reasons to drive a truck, yours is one. My step-dad rehabs houses for a living and needs his too. Off the top of my head, I can't think of one good reason to own a Hummer. There may be a couple, but there aren't many. Face it, in almost every case it's a useless vanity vehicle.

binauralsounds

Great thing bout the dumasses that spend all that money on the hummers? I got to drive them for free everday for years courtesy of the U.S. Army. I laugh everytime i see someone in one. HAHAHA.

hippiemom

I think people drive them because a sign that said "I'm extremely selfish, ignorant of the effects of oil consumption on the environment and world affairs, and so brainwashed by corporate advertising that I can't recognize a ton of ugly when it's staring me right in the face" would be too big.

BackwardsBlues1

hippiemom wrote:

I think people drive them because a sign that said "I'm extremely selfish, ignorant of the effects of oil consumption on the environment and world affairs, and so brainwashed by corporate advertising that I can't recognize a ton of ugly when it's staring me right in the face" would be too big.

henry rollins simply refers to hummers and the people who drive them as "dickheads."

JPinks

I knew a 50 year old woman who stood no more than 5 ft tall and weighed in around 100lbs who was enamored with Hummers (the vehicle!). Her husband bought her a Jaguar for her birthday, which she had him return for a Hummer! She liked being bigger than everyone else on the road. Her driving that thing had to be one of the most rediculous sights I've ever seen!

soulsinging

onelongsong wrote:

why do i drive a 1 ton 4x4? because i live in a remote area and a good 4x4 is needed. i haul hay for my animals and will drive cross country to buy the best buffalo; thus i need it to haul the trailer.
you can't assume people drive what they want. some have to drive what they need to.

this is perfectly fine. but let's face it... if you're alone in your car with a pressed white dress shirt, tie, and suit coat... odds are you're not hauling shit around unless it's your briefcase. you dont need a hummer or 1 ton truck. these are the people i take issue with.

soulsinging

binauralsounds wrote:

My response to you would be of course.. Because not only that I CAN, because I WANT to. and then politely explain that it is none of your business to question what i drive and to politely ask you to step aside.

late!

and my response to you would be dont cry when i torch your fucking ego machine.

i suggest that instead of buying a hummer, you respond to one of those email ads for penis enlarging pills. becos we all know that anyone driving a hummer is simply trying to find the same effect.

cornnifer

BackwardsBlues1 wrote:

henry rollins simply refers to hummers and the people who drive them as "dickheads."

Hank rules!

JPinks

Maybe the guy in the white shirt and tie is visiting from Alaska...maybe...but I doubt it. I try not to judge other people, but since I know that no one needs a Hummer, Hummer drivers do suck.

Could Hummers become like fur?
Protesters will throw green paint on them.
That would be funny as hell!

binauralsounds

soulsinging wrote:

and my response to you would be dont cry when i torch your fucking ego machine.

i suggest that instead of buying a hummer, you respond to one of those email ads for penis enlarging pills. becos we all know that anyone driving a hummer is simply trying to find the same effect.

see, it's ppl like you that HATE! again, it is NOT YOUR BUSINESS WHAT I DRIVE and OWN!!!!

your line of anyone driving a hummer is trying to get the same effect of penis enlarging is pathetic.

Again, ppl that bitch and moan when they see ppl ownin property they dislike is like a bunch of whining little kids.

And you speak of "EGO"??? fuck, i own a 2002 cavalier. HUGE EGO THERE!!!!! I pimp that fucker like mad!

I read right thru your anger and hatred for ppl that want to do what they want with THEIR MONEY!

If they are dumb as shit to pay that much for the vehicle and all that gas, fuckem, I laugh. I don't throw a tantrum and question why they own what they own.

Get over yourself.

norm

onelongsong wrote:

why do i drive a 1 ton 4x4? because i live in a remote area and a good 4x4 is needed. i haul hay for my animals and will drive cross country to buy the best buffalo; thus i need it to haul the trailer.
you can't assume people drive what they want. some have to drive what they need to.

That's what those vehicles are supposed to be used for. Come to LA and see these vehicles used for commuting and some sort of status symbol. No one needs a Hummer or a Suburban to pick up your kids from school.

cornnifer

cutback wrote:

That's what those vehicles are supposed to be used for. Come to LA and see these vehicles used for commuting and some sort of status symbol. No one needs a Hummer or a Suburban to pick up your kids from school.

Isn't a Hummer a military vehicle? I can't think of ANY reason someone would need to drive a military vehicle. No reason ant all.

binauralsounds

cornnifer wrote:

Isn't a Hummer a military vehicle? I can't think of ANY reason someone would need to drive a military vehicle. No reason ant all.

Ever heard of the JEEP???

polaris

binauralsounds wrote:

see, it's ppl like you that HATE! again, it is NOT YOUR BUSINESS WHAT I DRIVE and OWN!!!!

your line of anyone driving a hummer is trying to get the same effect of penis enlarging is pathetic.

Again, ppl that bitch and moan when they see ppl ownin property they dislike is like a bunch of whining little kids.

it is everyone's business because climate change and air pollution affects everyone - especially children and the elderly ...

you are right about one thing - we do live in a world that allows people like you to drive cars like these if you so wish ... it is unfortunate that you put your own right to ownership above everything else ... if everyone adopted that philosophy there wouldn't be much to live for ...

so ... while you see another person's hate - you fail to see your own sense of entitlement ...

am i perfect? ... hardly ... is anyone on here perfect? ... i doubt it ... but, if one accepts that there are problems in this world - then some things are easier changed than others ... the H2 is the ultimate symbol of excess beyond need ... the only defence of it's existence put forth seems to be that one should be allowed to own it because they can ... doesn't seem like that's enuf ...

JPinks

binauralsounds wrote:

it is NOT YOUR BUSINESS WHAT I DRIVE and OWN!!!!

If it is ruining the environment I live in, then it is my business. It scares me that so many people have absolutly no concern for the world in which they live.

hippiemom

binauralsounds wrote:

see, it's ppl like you that HATE! again, it is NOT YOUR BUSINESS WHAT I DRIVE and OWN!!!!

your line of anyone driving a hummer is trying to get the same effect of penis enlarging is pathetic.

Again, ppl that bitch and moan when they see ppl ownin property they dislike is like a bunch of whining little kids.

And you speak of "EGO"??? fuck, i own a 2002 cavalier. HUGE EGO THERE!!!!! I pimp that fucker like mad!

I read right thru your anger and hatred for ppl that want to do what they want with THEIR MONEY!

If they are dumb as shit to pay that much for the vehicle and all that gas, fuckem, I laugh. I don't throw a tantrum and question why they own what they own.

Get over yourself.

But it IS our business. It may be your money, but it's our planet, and it's our foreign policy that's being driven by the American need for over-comsumption. Your actions don't take place in a vacuum, they affect everyone.

binauralsounds

polaris wrote:

it is everyone's business because climate change and air pollution affects everyone - especially children and the elderly ...

you are right about one thing - we do live in a world that allows people like you to drive cars like these if you so wish ... it is unfortunate that you put your own right to ownership above everything else ... if everyone adopted that philosophy there wouldn't be much to live for ...

so ... while you see another person's hate - you fail to see your own sense of entitlement ...

am i perfect? ... hardly ... is anyone on here perfect? ... i doubt it ... but, if one accepts that there are problems in this world - then some things are easier changed than others ... the H2 is the ultimate symbol of excess beyond need ... the only defence of it's existence put forth seems to be that one should be allowed to own it because they can ... doesn't seem like that's enuf ...

:rolleyes: I'll try to not use that much gas today when i mow the lawn. ahh, screw it. I'll put a hummer engine on the lawn mower and mow the shit out of the lawn today.
just have to make sure i do it right in the heat of the day!!

i'm sorry, but the whole planet and big oil thing just make me smile
don't tell al gore tho!

i know i know, its the greedy americans that are killing this planet and driving up oil! I just some on here would let china know how horrible they are making things by building at such a huge pace that it is driving demand of oil up enormously. But i know, i know, it's our vehicles that are destroying the planet and raising oil prices. ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGg.

I love this place!

hahahahaha

decides2dream

hippiemom wrote:

Off the top of my head, I can't think of one good reason to own a Hummer. There may be a couple, but there aren't many. Face it, in almost every case it's a useless vanity vehicle.

agreed.
particularly where i live, there is absolutely NO reason for anyone to won one...except for their own egos. each and EVERY time we see one, i cannot help myself but curse them. haha. o course, i say it to myself, to my husband, i am not a rude or confrontational person...but man, their very existence as passenger vehicles for personal use simply pisses me off! if my husband happens to spot one before i do, he just looks at me, waiting my reaction...b/c i simply cannot let it pass w/o commoent. EVERY time we go to the movie theatre, w/o fail, we see at least one.......grrr. :mad:

polaris

binauralsounds wrote:

:rolleyes: I'll try to not use that much gas today when i mow the lawn. ahh, screw it. I'll put a hummer engine no the lawn mower and mow the shit out of the lawn today.
just have to make sure i do it right in the heat of the day!!

i'm sorry, but the whole planet and big oil thing just make me smile
don't tell al gore tho!

hahahahaha

you sure you want to do that? ... it might make it actually more environmentally friendly ... getting rid of 2 stroke engines would do wonders to clean the air ...

either way - at least you are upfront about your motivations

blackredyellow

binauralsounds wrote:

see, it's ppl like you that HATE! again, it is NOT YOUR BUSINESS WHAT I DRIVE and OWN!!!!

your line of anyone driving a hummer is trying to get the same effect of penis enlarging is pathetic.

Again, ppl that bitch and moan when they see ppl ownin property they dislike is like a bunch of whining little kids.

And you speak of "EGO"??? fuck, i own a 2002 cavalier. HUGE EGO THERE!!!!! I pimp that fucker like mad!

I read right thru your anger and hatred for ppl that want to do what they want with THEIR MONEY!

If they are dumb as shit to pay that much for the vehicle and all that gas, fuckem, I laugh. I don't throw a tantrum and question why they own what they own.

Get over yourself.

wow... sounds like some anger issues there.

My problem is that vehicles like that serve no purpose to 95% of the people who own them, and they help in destroying our environment. Do you think that it's anyone else's business if i just dump used oil on the ground? who cares about anyone else's groundwater, as long as I can afford to do it, what do I care? fuck everyone else.

onelongsong

soulsinging wrote:

and my response to you would be dont cry when i torch your fucking ego machine.

i suggest that instead of buying a hummer, you respond to one of those email ads for penis enlarging pills. becos we all know that anyone driving a hummer is simply trying to find the same effect.

my old ranch was in the bradshaw mtns and many neighbors needed hummers to get home. be it from sunday church or work. the vehicle is junk in my eyes but does serve a purpose. i wouldn't consider it an ego machinge. they're noisey and uncomfortable. my car is a 1940 chevy coupe. that's my toy. it's for shows; meets; and other RT 66 festivals.
but so what? the guys hummer didn't cost you a cent. why be violent? what about the semis that bring you food and other necessities? look at the fuel they use and pollution they cause. it sounds like pure jelousy. you can't afford one so you strike out against them. i have a friend who will only drive beemers. now that's an ego machine. every big drug dealer has one. shall we torch beemers; caddys; jags; and all the other ego machines too? what about big houses? especially those with more than 1 tv and 1 dvd player. violence begets violence. i'm 100% solar and feel i am setting an example. i rarely leave the ranch so i don't put much milage on anything but my horse. if you drive 10,000 miles a month and he drives 1,000; you are causing more pollution than him. maybe your vehicle should be torched. i'm not sticking up for hummers; only peoples freedom. let him drive what he wants. it shouldn't concern you.

polaris

decides2dream wrote:

agreed.
particularly where i live, there is absolutely NO reason for anyone to won one...except for their own egos. each and EVERY time we see one, i cannot help myself but curse them. haha. o course, i say it to myself, to my husband, i am not a rude or confrontational person...but man, their very existence as passenger vehicles for personal use simply pisses me off! if my husband happens to spot one before i do, he just looks at me, waiting my reaction...b/c i simply cannot let it pass w/o commoent. EVERY time we go to the movie theatre, w/o fail, we see at least one.......grrr. :mad:

well ... gm is getting hummered in their own way - they'll soon realize why they are getting left behind in the marketplace ...