probably, and that's why we disagree, i think the line has been cross, you don't think the line has been cross.
We also disagree that the killer's intention was to get those tapes aired, i think it was exactly his intentions, and they did fall into that, probably thinking about ratings and profits more than about the morality of the affair. That's where i think the line has been cross.
In the end it change nothing to the event itself, it's just the way they're capitalizing on this event for their own profits, and yes any medias would do the same, that is the disgusting part.
yes, we can agree to disagree...
as for the media capitalizing...they are give the masses what they want...
the next day after the shootings....every major media outlet was on the campus...why no outcry then...? they were capitalizing...right..?
and the "line"...it seems to be getting pushed farther and farther...who knows where it will stop...if ever...
It's obvious, and that's why he sent the tapes, cause he knew the public would want to see it (now that is a generalisation, but many want to see it), and he knew the station would show it, i predict it will happen again, just like they refuse to deal with hostage takers, cause they know if you negociate and give them what they want, it will happen again.
Now that they did what he wanted and made him famous, it means that if an individual have mental problems, and have this kind of killing spree planned, he can send his tapes to a major serious medias outlets and they will show the message to the world.
Of course it might change nothing for the killing to occur, that is impossible to predict, but it glorify, or publicize the killer himself to a disgusting level, it is voyeurism, of course that's a personal opinion that won't be shared by everyone cause most peoples do want to know, life is so boring anyway... no?
i predict it will happen again, and it doesn't matter whether or not they show this video. people will snap. it is the headlines they are after, their video is irrelevant. they want people to hear their anger. it doesn't matter if they show this video, or reveal his plays, or write an article about the contents of the video. the second one camera shows a feed from campus, they got the attention they wanted. people felt their rage and they are satisfied. the video does not add or subtract to this, it's just an element of his psychosis. most school shooters don't make videos. a few do. it's not determinative.
ok, let's be honest. Any murderer should not be put on TV - tape or no tape. Whether they killed 32 people, 3000 people or 1 person. No matter how many they kill it is a crime and a family is devastated. However, every time there is a murder, the media profiles the murderer. Just like they did with the hijackers on 9/11 - an dthe tapes of them planning and at the bar the night before. The public shows an interest. The last person I would want to see in the paper or on TV is a person who killed someone I cared about. But as long as there is public interest - who would do this? what was he like? why did he do it? - the media will be there....because that is their business. To feed people's curiosities, and yes folks, get ratings. Ratings are what keep these companies in business. Some things are done in bad taste, definitely. I have not seen the video so I really cannot form an opinion, but I cannot imagine any media company not airing this. People wanted to know what the guy's motive was behind such a sick event. I do not think it glorifies this psycho at all. he got what he wanted by killing these kids and having it televised. I do not feel like this makes the situation any worse. It's just part of journalism unfortunately.
i predict it will happen again, and it doesn't matter whether or not they show this video. people will snap. it is the headlines they are after, their video is irrelevant. they want people to hear their anger. it doesn't matter if they show this video, or reveal his plays, or write an article about the contents of the video. the second one camera shows a feed from campus, they got the attention they wanted. people felt their rage and they are satisfied. the video does not add or subtract to this, it's just an element of his psychosis. most school shooters don't make videos. a few do. it's not determinative.
well, when i say i predict it will happen again, i mean that i predict criminals will send their tapes to medias outlets and the medias will show them, the crime then become publicize, and if you think it has no effect on anyone, then i disagree. I think there's a difference between reporting the event and showing the killers testament to everyone. But there's something i sure understand, "people" want to see it, and medias give them what they want.
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
well, when i say i predict it will happen again, i mean that i predict criminals will send their tapes to medias outlets and the medias will show them, the crime then become publicize, and if you think it has no effect on anyone, then i disagree. I think there's a difference between reporting the event and showing the killers testament to everyone. But there's something i sure understand, "people" want to see it, and medias give them what they want.
and when people stop paying attention, it will stop.
By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer
1 hour, 54 minutes ago
NEW YORK - With a backlash developing against the media for airing sickening pictures from Virginia Tech shooter Cho Seung-Hui, Fox News Channel said Thursday it would stop and other networks said they would severely limit their use.
NBC News was the recipient Wednesday of Cho's package of rambling, hate-filled video and written messages, with several pictures of him posing with a gun. Contents began airing on "Nightly News," and its rivals quickly used them, too.
Family members of victims canceled plans to appear on NBC's "Today" show Thursday because they "were very upset" with the network for showing the pictures, "Today" host Meredith Vieira said.
Virginia State Police Col. Steve Flaherty — who praised NBC Wednesday for coming to authorities first with the package — said Thursday he was disappointed with what the network showed.
"I just hate that a lot of people not used to seeing that type of image had to see it," he said.
NBC said the material was aired because it helped to answer the question of why Cho killed 32 people and himself on the Virginia Tech campus Monday.
"The decision to run this video was reached by virtually every news organization in the world, as evidenced by coverage on television, on Web sites and in newspapers," NBC said in a statement. "We have covered this story — and our unique role in it — with extreme sensitivity, underscored by our devoted efforts to remember and honor the victims and heroes of this tragic incident."
NBC and its MSNBC cable outlet will "severely limit" use of these pictures going forward, "Today" host Matt Lauer said, a restriction echoed by ABC News. At both CBS News and CNN, producers will need explicit approval from their bosses to use them going forward.
Fox News announced on the air late Thursday morning that it would no longer air Cho's material, saying "sometimes you change your mind."
These decisions, of course, came more than 12 hours after the pictures became available, after they already made their impact. The news cycle dictates they would be used less, anyway.
"It has value as breaking news," said ABC News spokesman Jeffrey Schneider, "but then becomes practically pornographic as it is just repeated ad nauseam."
Jon Klein, president of CNN U.S., said the decision to air it was a tough call.
"As breaking news, it's pertinent to our understanding of why this was done," he said. "Then, once the public has seen the material and digested it, then it's fair to say, `How much should we be showing it?' I think it's to the credit of news organizations that they are dialing back."
NBC News said it had no indication why Cho chose it for his message. A Postal Service time stamp shows it was mailed at 9:01 a.m. Monday, during the two hours between his first shooting at a Virginia Tech dorm and his massacre at a classroom building.
yeah he was so dillusional but had the time and awerness to mail it out in between killing sprees ,i'm sorry but this creep knew exactly what he was doing and how to go about doing this, too bad it took the MEDIA 20 something hrs to realize showing the video was a mistake . assholes..........
yeah he was so dillusional but had the time and awerness to mail it out in between killing sprees ,i'm sorry but this creep knew exactly what he was doing and how to go about doing this, too bad it took the MEDIA 20 something hrs to realize showing the video was a mistake . assholes..........
being delusional does not mean he can't mail a letter. my uncle is schizophrenic. he's not an invalid.
Why are you all so scared to show this video? "Oh no, we gave Cho exactly what he wanted, a platform." A platform for what? His meaning ramblings? It's like giving a 2 month old baby 10 minutes to speak on television. It is 10 minutes of nothing. Showing the video only shows exactly how crazy iCho was. I am shocked that so many of you are upset by this. I am not shocked that the video was shown, and I would have been shocked if it wasn't. It's not a perfect world people. Sometimes we have to see something we don't want to see. If you want to live in a world where movies like Saw are made and Grand Theft Auto are played, than you will have to see shit like this too.
But seriously, why are are you all scared about this guy's words? A platform? A platform?
Why are you all so scared to show this video? "Oh no, we gave Cho exactly what he wanted, a platform." A platform for what? His meaning ramblings? It's like giving a 2 month old baby 10 minutes to speak on television. It is 10 minutes of nothing. Showing the video only shows exactly how crazy iCho was. I am shocked that so many of you are upset by this. I am not shocked that the video was shown, and I would have been shocked if it wasn't. It's not a perfect world people. Sometimes we have to see something we don't want to see. If you want to live in a world where movies like Saw are made and Grand Theft Auto are played, than you will have to see shit like this too.
But seriously, why are are you all scared about this guy's words? A platform? A platform?
It's not about him anymore ...it's about the next idiot that wants his name in lights.
I wouldn't have played his mind barf, or published his little homoerotic manifesto writings The guy does not deserve a voice . Picture only...that's it... he's dead...let him fucking die already.
Americanized martyrdom...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
way to go, you made a madmans wish come true. you did just what he wanted you to do. show his mad rantings all over the world before the blood has even been cleaned up. you should be ashamed of yourself NBC. dont you have any class? dont you have a heart? dont you have any compassion for the victims? or did you piss your pants in glee when you realized this wacko handed you the biggest news story at the moment?
i cant tell anyone what to do, but i personally refuse to watch this fucking psycho and his bullshit propaganda. dont feed his fire, dont do what he wanted, ignore the lunacy. do not feed into his circus. it is exactly what he wanted.
Why are you all so scared to show this video? "Oh no, we gave Cho exactly what he wanted, a platform." A platform for what? His meaning ramblings? It's like giving a 2 month old baby 10 minutes to speak on television. It is 10 minutes of nothing. Showing the video only shows exactly how crazy iCho was. I am shocked that so many of you are upset by this. I am not shocked that the video was shown, and I would have been shocked if it wasn't. It's not a perfect world people. Sometimes we have to see something we don't want to see. If you want to live in a world where movies like Saw are made and Grand Theft Auto are played, than you will have to see shit like this too.
But seriously, why are are you all scared about this guy's words? A platform? A platform?
exactly...
I'd have to say, those who are upset and "outraged" have done more to give him a platform than NBC...
Grieving parent: Remember our children
By Vicki Smith, Associated Press Writer
13 minutes ago
Peter Read wants you to make a choice.
He asks that you turn away from the face of the deranged gunman glaring at the camera. Gaze instead at the face of a bright and bubbly brunette who smiled even when she was unhappy, a face always in the middle of a crowd.
It is the face of Mary Karen Read, the daughter he will now see only in scrapbooks.
Hers is just one of 32 promising lives cut short at Virginia Tech — the life of a musician, an aspiring schoolteacher, a doting big sister to five siblings. A 19-year-old freshman who had just filed her first tax return and learned, the day before she died, how to make a pumpkin pie.
When you think of the massacre that befell this quiet college town, those are the memories Peter Read wants you to remember.
"We want the world to know and celebrate our children's lives, and we believe that's the central element that brings hope in the midst of great tragedy," Read said Thursday, with his wife, Cathy, at his side. "These kids were the best that their generation has to offer."
As the Reads left Blacksburg on Thursday for their home in Annandale, they were exhausted, pale, heartbroken — and furious. On television, the overwhelming image of the tragedy was the face of Cho Seung-Hui — a killer whose name Peter Read cannot bring himself to speak.
"I want to issue a direct personal plea, to all the major media," he told The Associated Press. "For the love of God and our children, stop broadcasting those images and those words. Choose to focus on life and the love and the light that our children brought into the world and not on the darkness and the madness and the death."
Several networks have already heard Read's message loud and clear — from disgusted viewers. Fox News Channel announced it would no longer run the disturbing audio and images of the gunman. NBC, which aired the material first, and cable outlet MSNBC said they would "severely limit" their use.
Read hopes the focus will swing back to the children. Children such as Paul Turner's daughter Maxine, a 22-year-old chemical engineering major from Vienna who loved beaches, swing dancing and her close-knit circle of friends. She would have graduated soon, and she had already lined up a job in Elkton, Md.
At Virginia Tech, Maxine Turner co-founded a sorority and earned a red belt in Tae Kwon Do. She loved the German band Rammstein and signed up for a language class to understand the lyrics.
It was there that she died.
On Thursday, her body rested at a morgue in Roanoke, where state and U.S. flags were lowered and access was heavily guarded by police. A hearse will arrive sometime this week to carry her home, a scenario that will be repeated many times as parents hold funerals.
Like so many today, the Read family is blended: Peter Read, a 44-year-old Air Force veteran, married Yon Son Yi, of Palisades Park, N.J., who gave birth to Mary Read. But the couple later divorced.
Yi remarried and had a second daughter, Hannah, 4 1/2. Read remarried too, and he and his wife had four children: Stephen, 11; Patrick, 4 1/2; Brendan, 2 1/2; and Colleen, 10 months.
The Reads live in a quiet cul-de-sac in Annandale, where they moved in 2001 from Virginia Beach.
Mary Read made friends fast. She joined the French honor society, the National Honor Society and the marching band. She played lacrosse for two years and moved easily between the cliques that fill high school hallways.
She wanted to teach math and science to elementary school students, and she enrolled at Virginia Tech.
In her dorm room were scrapbooks filled with hundreds of photographs — at summer band camp, at Myrtle Beach, on the arm of her father as part of the homecoming court.
The end of her freshman year was just weeks away, and she had planned to spend the summer at home, working at a deli and helping care for her siblings.
She came home Easter weekend, staging practice egg hunts for her brothers. Then, the weekend before her death, she came home again.
She divided her time between her friends and her family those two days but was inseparable from her laptop. She sat on the stairs, where the wireless reception was best, to instant message and e-mail her friends. A brother sat nearby, toy computer on his lap.
"He wanted to be like Mary," Peter Read recalled.
On Sunday, Read's wife showed his daughter how to make her favorite dessert, a pumpkin pie. And when Read took her to the bus stop at 4:30 p.m., she had a slab of the pie and a container of Cool Whip in a plastic bag.
Mary Read never called to check in when she reached Blacksburg, but her parents know what she did that night: She had recorded her favorite TV show, "House," on DVDs and watched them on her laptop during the 4 1/2-hour ride.
The next morning, she had French class in Norris Hall, where gunman Cho Seung-Hui took her life.
When news of the shootings broke, Peter Read started calling his daughter, hoping she would pick up. Then he called her roommate. The hours wore on, without word.
When Read learned that the parents of his daughter's longtime friend Danielle Waters were driving to Blacksburg late that afternoon to find their daughter, he asked to ride along.
On the drive, Olga and John Waters learned their daughter was alive. Around 9:30 p.m., Read's cell phone rang. It was his wife, and the state police were at their door.
The Reads won't talk about their grief over these past few days. It's too painful, too personal. The time is not yet right.
But they share the photos and drawings from their daughter's dorm room, which was just as she had left it.
In a plastic bag was the empty container that had held her pie. And on her desk was a calendar Mary Read's grandmother had given her years ago, each day offering a quote from a famous woman.
On April 16, the words were from a teacher, Helen Keller:
"When we do the best we can, we never know what miracle is wrought in our life, or in the life of another."
Personally if I knew anyone that was killed or wounded by the guy, I would want to see it. I would want to know who the hell did this and what his reasons might be.
Who cares if you're glorifying this guy. It's not like he cares, he's fucking dead?
way to go, you made a madmans wish come true. you did just what he wanted you to do. show his mad rantings all over the world before the blood has even been cleaned up. you should be ashamed of yourself NBC. dont you have any class? dont you have a heart? dont you have any compassion for the victims? or did you piss your pants in glee when you realized this wacko handed you the biggest news story at the moment?
i cant tell anyone what to do, but i personally refuse to watch this fucking psycho and his bullshit propaganda. dont feed his fire, dont do what he wanted, ignore the lunacy. do not feed into his circus. it is exactly what he wanted.
who cares?
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
NBC should have turned this video over to the FBI and let them analyze it, and watch it first, secondly they should have called the victims families and informed them of the video and its contents, and then turned over to NBC to broadcast if so wished by those families. I love the fact that FOXnews didn't air that incoherent ramblings of a lunatic who in turn wanted to be infamous and NBC fell victim to trap. FUCK everyone at NBC managment and broadcasters alike, fuck 'em.
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Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I didn't see where anyone who thinks NBC is evil for showing the video addressed my question about the 9/11 tapes? Everyone is up in arms about them not being released. But for some reason those same people think this shouldn't be aired out of respect for the families? What about the respect of the families from 9/11?
And if you think this video is what will make this guy famous or whatever you are delusional. Do you think anyone is going to forget about this?? I don't recall seeing any crazy videos from Columbine but we all know who Dylan Klebold and Eric harris are right?
I didn't see where anyone who thinks NBC is evil for showing the video addressed my question about the 9/11 tapes? Everyone is up in arms about them not being released. But for some reason those same people think this shouldn't be aired out of respect for the families? What about the respect of the families from 9/11?
And if you think this video is what will make this guy famous or whatever you are delusional. Do you think anyone is going to forget about this?? I don't recall seeing any crazy videos from Columbine but we all know who Dylan Klebold and Eric harris are right?
well if you've bothered to read anything about that, the majority of the 9/11 families want the tapes released... I guess everyone else figured you already knew that...
see sig line #1
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
well if you've bothered to read anything about that, the majority of the 9/11 families want the tapes released... I guess everyone else figured you already knew that...
see sig line #1
So what? What about the families that don't? What about the families from this that want to see the tape? Did someone sit down and ask every family what they wanted? Anyway you look at it someone isn't going to be happy and NBC as a news outlet is doing what it does.. it reports the news which is exactly what that tape is. I guess your sig comment is an attempt at an insult with a smiley for "just kidding" purposes. That doesn't make your opinion any more valid but if it makes you feel better about yourself then whatever.
So what? What about the families that don't? What about the families from this that want to see the tape? Did someone sit down and ask every family what they wanted? Anyway you look at it someone isn't going to be happy and NBC as a news outlet is doing what it does.. it reports the news which is exactly what that tape is. I guess your sig comment is an attempt at an insult with a smiley for "just kidding" purposes. That doesn't make your opinion any more valid but if it makes you feel better about yourself then whatever.
that tape is not news, it is the taunting and glorification of a disgusting act and its victims.
So what? What about the families that don't? What about the families from this that want to see the tape? Did someone sit down and ask every family what they wanted? Anyway you look at it someone isn't going to be happy and NBC as a news outlet is doing what it does.. it reports the news which is exactly what that tape is. I guess your sig comment is an attempt at an insult with a smiley for "just kidding" purposes. That doesn't make your opinion any more valid but if it makes you feel better about yourself then whatever.
Majority rules in this world my friend. That's why we have a voting system remember?!?!? You can make some people happy some of the time yadda yadaa...
The smiley was me laughing because your post was funny... silly actually
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
that tape is not news, it is the taunting and glorification of a disgusting act and its victims.
No one can glorify that. That's paranoia talking on your part. You're among that same group of people that thinks the media is trying to extort guilt out of it's viewers by submitting the troubled biography of the killer.
People are trying to understand what the hell happened, and the media certainly takes advantage of that, but I think you're making yourself a sideshow victim of media overkill with your viewpoint. This is media here, this message board. However you feel about NBC putting it out there, it was going to come out sooner or or later. The sooner the better, I think.
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yes, we can agree to disagree...
as for the media capitalizing...they are give the masses what they want...
the next day after the shootings....every major media outlet was on the campus...why no outcry then...? they were capitalizing...right..?
and the "line"...it seems to be getting pushed farther and farther...who knows where it will stop...if ever...
i predict it will happen again, and it doesn't matter whether or not they show this video. people will snap. it is the headlines they are after, their video is irrelevant. they want people to hear their anger. it doesn't matter if they show this video, or reveal his plays, or write an article about the contents of the video. the second one camera shows a feed from campus, they got the attention they wanted. people felt their rage and they are satisfied. the video does not add or subtract to this, it's just an element of his psychosis. most school shooters don't make videos. a few do. it's not determinative.
Nobody should be forgotten
but we'll all be...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
well, when i say i predict it will happen again, i mean that i predict criminals will send their tapes to medias outlets and the medias will show them, the crime then become publicize, and if you think it has no effect on anyone, then i disagree. I think there's a difference between reporting the event and showing the killers testament to everyone. But there's something i sure understand, "people" want to see it, and medias give them what they want.
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
and when people stop paying attention, it will stop.
By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer
1 hour, 54 minutes ago
NEW YORK - With a backlash developing against the media for airing sickening pictures from Virginia Tech shooter Cho Seung-Hui, Fox News Channel said Thursday it would stop and other networks said they would severely limit their use.
NBC News was the recipient Wednesday of Cho's package of rambling, hate-filled video and written messages, with several pictures of him posing with a gun. Contents began airing on "Nightly News," and its rivals quickly used them, too.
Family members of victims canceled plans to appear on NBC's "Today" show Thursday because they "were very upset" with the network for showing the pictures, "Today" host Meredith Vieira said.
Virginia State Police Col. Steve Flaherty — who praised NBC Wednesday for coming to authorities first with the package — said Thursday he was disappointed with what the network showed.
"I just hate that a lot of people not used to seeing that type of image had to see it," he said.
NBC said the material was aired because it helped to answer the question of why Cho killed 32 people and himself on the Virginia Tech campus Monday.
"The decision to run this video was reached by virtually every news organization in the world, as evidenced by coverage on television, on Web sites and in newspapers," NBC said in a statement. "We have covered this story — and our unique role in it — with extreme sensitivity, underscored by our devoted efforts to remember and honor the victims and heroes of this tragic incident."
NBC and its MSNBC cable outlet will "severely limit" use of these pictures going forward, "Today" host Matt Lauer said, a restriction echoed by ABC News. At both CBS News and CNN, producers will need explicit approval from their bosses to use them going forward.
Fox News announced on the air late Thursday morning that it would no longer air Cho's material, saying "sometimes you change your mind."
These decisions, of course, came more than 12 hours after the pictures became available, after they already made their impact. The news cycle dictates they would be used less, anyway.
"It has value as breaking news," said ABC News spokesman Jeffrey Schneider, "but then becomes practically pornographic as it is just repeated ad nauseam."
Jon Klein, president of CNN U.S., said the decision to air it was a tough call.
"As breaking news, it's pertinent to our understanding of why this was done," he said. "Then, once the public has seen the material and digested it, then it's fair to say, `How much should we be showing it?' I think it's to the credit of news organizations that they are dialing back."
NBC News said it had no indication why Cho chose it for his message. A Postal Service time stamp shows it was mailed at 9:01 a.m. Monday, during the two hours between his first shooting at a Virginia Tech dorm and his massacre at a classroom building.
being delusional does not mean he can't mail a letter. my uncle is schizophrenic. he's not an invalid.
But seriously, why are are you all scared about this guy's words? A platform? A platform?
It's not about him anymore ...it's about the next idiot that wants his name in lights.
I wouldn't have played his mind barf, or published his little homoerotic manifesto writings The guy does not deserve a voice . Picture only...that's it... he's dead...let him fucking die already.
Americanized martyrdom...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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exactly...
I'd have to say, those who are upset and "outraged" have done more to give him a platform than NBC...
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
By Vicki Smith, Associated Press Writer
13 minutes ago
Peter Read wants you to make a choice.
He asks that you turn away from the face of the deranged gunman glaring at the camera. Gaze instead at the face of a bright and bubbly brunette who smiled even when she was unhappy, a face always in the middle of a crowd.
It is the face of Mary Karen Read, the daughter he will now see only in scrapbooks.
Hers is just one of 32 promising lives cut short at Virginia Tech — the life of a musician, an aspiring schoolteacher, a doting big sister to five siblings. A 19-year-old freshman who had just filed her first tax return and learned, the day before she died, how to make a pumpkin pie.
When you think of the massacre that befell this quiet college town, those are the memories Peter Read wants you to remember.
"We want the world to know and celebrate our children's lives, and we believe that's the central element that brings hope in the midst of great tragedy," Read said Thursday, with his wife, Cathy, at his side. "These kids were the best that their generation has to offer."
As the Reads left Blacksburg on Thursday for their home in Annandale, they were exhausted, pale, heartbroken — and furious. On television, the overwhelming image of the tragedy was the face of Cho Seung-Hui — a killer whose name Peter Read cannot bring himself to speak.
"I want to issue a direct personal plea, to all the major media," he told The Associated Press. "For the love of God and our children, stop broadcasting those images and those words. Choose to focus on life and the love and the light that our children brought into the world and not on the darkness and the madness and the death."
Several networks have already heard Read's message loud and clear — from disgusted viewers. Fox News Channel announced it would no longer run the disturbing audio and images of the gunman. NBC, which aired the material first, and cable outlet MSNBC said they would "severely limit" their use.
Read hopes the focus will swing back to the children. Children such as Paul Turner's daughter Maxine, a 22-year-old chemical engineering major from Vienna who loved beaches, swing dancing and her close-knit circle of friends. She would have graduated soon, and she had already lined up a job in Elkton, Md.
At Virginia Tech, Maxine Turner co-founded a sorority and earned a red belt in Tae Kwon Do. She loved the German band Rammstein and signed up for a language class to understand the lyrics.
It was there that she died.
On Thursday, her body rested at a morgue in Roanoke, where state and U.S. flags were lowered and access was heavily guarded by police. A hearse will arrive sometime this week to carry her home, a scenario that will be repeated many times as parents hold funerals.
Like so many today, the Read family is blended: Peter Read, a 44-year-old Air Force veteran, married Yon Son Yi, of Palisades Park, N.J., who gave birth to Mary Read. But the couple later divorced.
Yi remarried and had a second daughter, Hannah, 4 1/2. Read remarried too, and he and his wife had four children: Stephen, 11; Patrick, 4 1/2; Brendan, 2 1/2; and Colleen, 10 months.
The Reads live in a quiet cul-de-sac in Annandale, where they moved in 2001 from Virginia Beach.
Mary Read made friends fast. She joined the French honor society, the National Honor Society and the marching band. She played lacrosse for two years and moved easily between the cliques that fill high school hallways.
She wanted to teach math and science to elementary school students, and she enrolled at Virginia Tech.
In her dorm room were scrapbooks filled with hundreds of photographs — at summer band camp, at Myrtle Beach, on the arm of her father as part of the homecoming court.
The end of her freshman year was just weeks away, and she had planned to spend the summer at home, working at a deli and helping care for her siblings.
She came home Easter weekend, staging practice egg hunts for her brothers. Then, the weekend before her death, she came home again.
She divided her time between her friends and her family those two days but was inseparable from her laptop. She sat on the stairs, where the wireless reception was best, to instant message and e-mail her friends. A brother sat nearby, toy computer on his lap.
"He wanted to be like Mary," Peter Read recalled.
On Sunday, Read's wife showed his daughter how to make her favorite dessert, a pumpkin pie. And when Read took her to the bus stop at 4:30 p.m., she had a slab of the pie and a container of Cool Whip in a plastic bag.
Mary Read never called to check in when she reached Blacksburg, but her parents know what she did that night: She had recorded her favorite TV show, "House," on DVDs and watched them on her laptop during the 4 1/2-hour ride.
The next morning, she had French class in Norris Hall, where gunman Cho Seung-Hui took her life.
When news of the shootings broke, Peter Read started calling his daughter, hoping she would pick up. Then he called her roommate. The hours wore on, without word.
When Read learned that the parents of his daughter's longtime friend Danielle Waters were driving to Blacksburg late that afternoon to find their daughter, he asked to ride along.
On the drive, Olga and John Waters learned their daughter was alive. Around 9:30 p.m., Read's cell phone rang. It was his wife, and the state police were at their door.
The Reads won't talk about their grief over these past few days. It's too painful, too personal. The time is not yet right.
But they share the photos and drawings from their daughter's dorm room, which was just as she had left it.
In a plastic bag was the empty container that had held her pie. And on her desk was a calendar Mary Read's grandmother had given her years ago, each day offering a quote from a famous woman.
On April 16, the words were from a teacher, Helen Keller:
"When we do the best we can, we never know what miracle is wrought in our life, or in the life of another."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/virginia_tech_one_parent
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
Who cares if you're glorifying this guy. It's not like he cares, he's fucking dead?
If you go to their websites photos and videos are still plastered all over the place.
East Rutherford '98
Merriweather '98
Gorge '05
Vancouver '05
Los Angeles I,II '06
Santa Barbara '06
Fonda Theater '06
33 families...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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And if you think this video is what will make this guy famous or whatever you are delusional. Do you think anyone is going to forget about this?? I don't recall seeing any crazy videos from Columbine but we all know who Dylan Klebold and Eric harris are right?
well if you've bothered to read anything about that, the majority of the 9/11 families want the tapes released... I guess everyone else figured you already knew that...
see sig line #1
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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"No one cares about climbing stairs, Nothing at the top no more." Chris Cornell
So what? What about the families that don't? What about the families from this that want to see the tape? Did someone sit down and ask every family what they wanted? Anyway you look at it someone isn't going to be happy and NBC as a news outlet is doing what it does.. it reports the news which is exactly what that tape is. I guess your sig comment is an attempt at an insult with a smiley for "just kidding" purposes. That doesn't make your opinion any more valid but if it makes you feel better about yourself then whatever.
that tape is not news, it is the taunting and glorification of a disgusting act and its victims.
Majority rules in this world my friend. That's why we have a voting system remember?!?!? You can make some people happy some of the time yadda yadaa...
The smiley was me laughing because your post was funny... silly actually
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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No one can glorify that. That's paranoia talking on your part. You're among that same group of people that thinks the media is trying to extort guilt out of it's viewers by submitting the troubled biography of the killer.
People are trying to understand what the hell happened, and the media certainly takes advantage of that, but I think you're making yourself a sideshow victim of media overkill with your viewpoint. This is media here, this message board. However you feel about NBC putting it out there, it was going to come out sooner or or later. The sooner the better, I think.
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