i havent watched it, and i will never watch it. do what the fuck you want, but remember if you do watch it, you are only doing exactly what that motherfucker wanted you to.
which is what...?
go ahead, tell me...if you can...go ahead and fucking assume...feel free...
way to go, you made a madmans wish come true. you did just what he wanted you to do. show his mad rantings all over the world before the blood has even been cleaned up. you should be ashamed of yourself NBC. dont you have any class? dont you have a heart? dont you have any compassion for the victims? or did you piss your pants in glee when you realized this wacko handed you the biggest news story at the moment?
i cant tell anyone what to do, but i personally refuse to watch this fucking psycho and his bullshit propaganda. dont feed his fire, dont do what he wanted, ignore the lunacy. do not feed into his circus. it is exactly what he wanted.
Col. Steve Flaherty, superintendent of the Virginia State Police, said Thursday that the material contained little they did not already know. Flaherty said he was disappointed that NBC decided to broadcast parts of it.
"I just hate that a lot of people not used to seeing that type of image had to see it," he said.
On NBC's "Today" show Thursday, host Meredith Vieira said the decision to air the information "was not taken lightly." Some victims' relatives canceled their plans to speak with NBC because they were upset over the airing of the images, she said.
"I saw his picture on TV, and when I did I just got chills," said Kristy Venning, a junior from Franklin County, Va. "There's really no words. It shows he put so much thought into this and I think it's sick."
good post exactly why not tell the families about the plan to air it we know why because all of them would of dissagreed and told NBC NOT TO SHOW THIS ASSHOLE ,again people put your selves in the shoes of the families ......
Some of you are just blatant hypocrites. I wonder how many of you support showing videos from the Iraqi war on YouTube. You praise YouTube for showing these graphic videos. We hear about how the American people need to see this to understand what is going on in Iraq. I guess when it serves your purposes as anti-Bush, you support showing graphic videos. But when NBC puts out a disturbing video, you will blast NBC for it (becuase you hate the media). Everyday your views change. Hypocrites.
I don't get the anti-Bush correlation but other than that I completely agree. I wonder how many of you were this outraged with the beheading videos? And you have no problems with wanting the 9/11 Pentagon videos released and aired right? Then why not this? NBC got the tapes and handed them over to the police BEFORE releasing anything and I don't understand how anyone thinks this "advocates murder".
I think NBC should have shown segments of the video and the pictures. The videos help us understand how screwed up this guy was. How many of us were asking "Why did this guy do this?" Well, from the video and pictures we can answer that question, which is the media's job. Either you want the media to do its job or not.
Showing the video does not help Cho's cause, and will not cause another mass killing. The video helps us understand and SHOULD freak us all out. These people are out there and we need to watch for them and understand them, which this video helps us do.
I agree. However, would you agree that NBC or any large media outlet are showing this for no other reason than their own self interests (ratings $$$)?
I understand you don't want to watch it...and that's your fucking choice...just read through this thread, and you'll see good points, pro and con...
I say the vids explain some things...however, since you haven't seen them, you can't understand that point...
The issue is not that you've watch it or not, the issue is that they've aired it, and if the families are truely against those tape being aired (something i didn't know), it's even more disgusting, it's pure 2007 modern world bullshit. Now the fact that you, personnaly, want to watch it, is not an issue at all, once it's available, people will watch it, and that's exaclty what the killer wanted.
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
The issue is not that you've watch it or not, the issue is that they've aired it, and if the families are truely against those tape being aired (something i didn't know), it's even more disgusting, it's pure 2007 modern world bullshit. Now the fact that you, personnaly, want to watch it, is not an issue at all, once it's available, people will watch it, and that's exaclty what the killer wanted.
I'm serious, is it what he wanted...?
we can assume...but we don't know, unless of course there was something in the package that said "I want the world watch this" and if so, I stand corrected...
listen...I feel for the families, please know that...in this situation, there are no winners...NBC did their job...which is to relate news...we can't pick and chose what is news....
heck, he had mailed it to Fox, CBS, CNN, or any other major media outlet, they would have done the same...
good post exactly why not tell the families about the plan to air it we know why because all of them would of dissagreed and told NBC NOT TO SHOW THIS ASSHOLE ,again people put your selves in the shoes of the families ......
I'm actually pretty good at putting myself in other people's shoes and if one of my kids were a victim of this type of thing, I would want to know anything and everything about their killer. Seeing a video like this one would be fine.
Of course he was looney but I can't help but wonder why. He mentioned paedophilia...was he molested? Did he want to molest? really...wtf happened here?
we can assume...but we don't know, unless of course there was something in the package that said "I want the world watch this" and if so, I stand corrected...
you are over thinking this. it is not worth debating. he OBVIOUSLY wanted to people to watch this. period. if you dont get that then i dont know what to tell you.
you are over thinking this. it is not worth debating. he OBVIOUSLY wanted to people to watch this. period. if you dont get that then i dont know what to tell you.
then quit trying...
while you may see it as OBVIOUS...I don't
I saw a very disturbed person, who committed a heinous act...who was OBVIOUSLY not thinking clearly...
I am just pointing out your hypocrisy and asking why it is okay in one instance but not in the other.
1. you shouldnt make this a personal attack on me, how the fuck am i being a hypocrite?
2. you shouldnt spin this into your little pro-war stance, it is quite ridiculous and pathetic
3. if you cant see the difference between airing the ramblings of a lunatic as he brandishes the weapons used the day after he kills 33 people, and airing the horrors of war that we have caused, and continue to cause. then i dont know what to tell you, and quite frankly you are so far off base it isnt even worth debating any futher.
we can assume...but we don't know, unless of course there was something in the package that said "I want the world watch this" and if so, I stand corrected...
listen...I feel for the families, please know that...in this situation, there are no winners...NBC did their job...which is to relate news...we can't pick and chose what is news....
heck, he had mailed it to Fox, CBS, CNN, or any other major media outlet, they would have done the same...
Sure we can only assume, but in the end, that's "probably" what he wanted to do by sending these tapes to one of the most watched medias.
I agree that any other medias would have done the same, in fact they're all showing it now. But again, the guy was mentally ill, what he had in mind is close to impossible to figure out, but the people taking decision at NBC (or any other medias that would have got the tapes) are not mentally ill and should have taken the decision to respect, first, the families will, but they choose to air it cause it brings rating and rating bring publicity revenue, it's even a huge free publicity for them in every other medias, who are probably jealous for not getting those tapes. That i'm only assuming of course.
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Sure we can only assume, but in the end, that's "probably" what he wanted to do by sending these tapes to one of the most watched medias.
I agree that any other medias would have done the same, in fact they're all showing it now. But again, the guy was mentally ill, what he had in mind is close to impossible to figure out, but the people taking decision at NBC (or any other medias that would have got the tapes) are not mentally ill and should have taken the decision to respect, first, the families will, but they choose to air it cause it brings rating and rating bring publicity revenue, it's even a huge free publicity for them in every other medias, who are probably jealous for not getting those tapes. That i'm only assuming of course.
but news is news, grandma....
death and murder happens, sadly on a regular basis....
should the next time someone dies, should the news not cover it out of "respect for the families"...? should they only cover feel-good things...
no one seems to be upset at the Smoking Gun, who posted his play....why is that different...?
sadly, news is news...and people with watch and read...because at the end of the day...we are all voyeurs...
who the hell didnt think this guy was obviously mentally ill before the news told you???
It's important to understand just how ill he was.... there are different degrees.
there's a difference between stabbing someone once and stabbing someone 147 times.
was he just a little wacky and then one-day snapped or was he a full-blown nut job? There is a huge area in-between and the video shows just how disturbed he was.
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which is what...?
go ahead, tell me...if you can...go ahead and fucking assume...feel free...
KUDOS TO THIS POST!!!!!!!!!!!
you need to ask what?
he wanted you to watch the video, it's not hard to understand...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
NBC does far worst than this every day.
Fact is, this news is important. All news is. Just the real stuff....
i am not assuming anything. as i said, watch if you want. but that is obviously what he wanted, people to watch it.
no shit, sherlock...
so what's the fuckin' issue...?
I understand you don't want to watch it...and that's your fucking choice...just read through this thread, and you'll see good points, pro and con...
I say the vids explain some things...however, since you haven't seen them, you can't understand that point...
did he...?
do you know that...?
hey, listen, don't watch...turn the tv when it comes on...
it's not that hard...
I don't get the anti-Bush correlation but other than that I completely agree. I wonder how many of you were this outraged with the beheading videos? And you have no problems with wanting the 9/11 Pentagon videos released and aired right? Then why not this? NBC got the tapes and handed them over to the police BEFORE releasing anything and I don't understand how anyone thinks this "advocates murder".
I agree. However, would you agree that NBC or any large media outlet are showing this for no other reason than their own self interests (ratings $$$)?
The issue is not that you've watch it or not, the issue is that they've aired it, and if the families are truely against those tape being aired (something i didn't know), it's even more disgusting, it's pure 2007 modern world bullshit. Now the fact that you, personnaly, want to watch it, is not an issue at all, once it's available, people will watch it, and that's exaclty what the killer wanted.
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
i surely dont need to see his video to know he was fucking crazy.
hmmm, yes yes duh... he send the tapes to NBC, cause he didn't want you to see this, it's pointless to make it personal by the way...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
your kidding right? why else would he tape it and send it to NBC? i think it is safe to assume he wanted people to watch his bullshit.
its not rocket science
I am just pointing out your hypocrisy and asking why it is okay in one instance but not in the other.
I'm serious, is it what he wanted...?
we can assume...but we don't know, unless of course there was something in the package that said "I want the world watch this" and if so, I stand corrected...
listen...I feel for the families, please know that...in this situation, there are no winners...NBC did their job...which is to relate news...we can't pick and chose what is news....
heck, he had mailed it to Fox, CBS, CNN, or any other major media outlet, they would have done the same...
no, I'm not fucking kidding...how about that one..?
honestly, I have no idea why he sent it to NBC...I can assume....
I'm actually pretty good at putting myself in other people's shoes and if one of my kids were a victim of this type of thing, I would want to know anything and everything about their killer. Seeing a video like this one would be fine.
Of course he was looney but I can't help but wonder why. He mentioned paedophilia...was he molested? Did he want to molest? really...wtf happened here?
you are over thinking this. it is not worth debating. he OBVIOUSLY wanted to people to watch this. period. if you dont get that then i dont know what to tell you.
how about this one...
if you don't like it...don't watch...boycott NBC, and watch on another channel...
how does that sound...? too easy, I know...
then quit trying...
while you may see it as OBVIOUS...I don't
I saw a very disturbed person, who committed a heinous act...who was OBVIOUSLY not thinking clearly...
what did you see....?
1. you shouldnt make this a personal attack on me, how the fuck am i being a hypocrite?
2. you shouldnt spin this into your little pro-war stance, it is quite ridiculous and pathetic
3. if you cant see the difference between airing the ramblings of a lunatic as he brandishes the weapons used the day after he kills 33 people, and airing the horrors of war that we have caused, and continue to cause. then i dont know what to tell you, and quite frankly you are so far off base it isnt even worth debating any futher.
some people really do enjoy koolaid i guess?
Sure we can only assume, but in the end, that's "probably" what he wanted to do by sending these tapes to one of the most watched medias.
I agree that any other medias would have done the same, in fact they're all showing it now. But again, the guy was mentally ill, what he had in mind is close to impossible to figure out, but the people taking decision at NBC (or any other medias that would have got the tapes) are not mentally ill and should have taken the decision to respect, first, the families will, but they choose to air it cause it brings rating and rating bring publicity revenue, it's even a huge free publicity for them in every other medias, who are probably jealous for not getting those tapes. That i'm only assuming of course.
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
that is exactly what i have been saying.
"i dont KNOW if he wanted people to watch it" GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK
***NEWSFLASH*** I DONT CARE WHAT YOU DO MY FRIEND, AND I DONT INTEND TO FORCE YOU TO DO ANYTHING EITHER, PERHAPS YOU SHOULD RE-READ MY ORIGINAL POST
but news is news, grandma....
death and murder happens, sadly on a regular basis....
should the next time someone dies, should the news not cover it out of "respect for the families"...? should they only cover feel-good things...
no one seems to be upset at the Smoking Gun, who posted his play....why is that different...?
sadly, news is news...and people with watch and read...because at the end of the day...we are all voyeurs...
yippee, we agree on not watching something you don't want to...
I just happen to think NBC is not at fault...
and quit fucking yelling...
It's important to understand just how ill he was.... there are different degrees.
there's a difference between stabbing someone once and stabbing someone 147 times.
was he just a little wacky and then one-day snapped or was he a full-blown nut job? There is a huge area in-between and the video shows just how disturbed he was.