That's why you WANT a gun, not why you NEED one, take all the guns away who needs one to defend themselves... no-one yes, then we are back to the knives argument etc but the only way for you to go when you have guns is MORE guns, more POWERFUL guns so that can out-do your neighbour (that's with a u by the way) in some dilussional thought process where everyone is out to get you... paranoid society ensues, you're welcome to it...
Guns exist. They are never going to NOT exist. That's why I NEED a gun. I WANT a gun because they are fucking cool has hell to shoot
I'm not denying your statistics but I will take issue with the "raised in responsible homes with responsible parents who have responsibly taken care of their guns" part. If the parents truly responsibly taken care of their guns, no accidents would ever happen.
So since guns are used up to 2.5 million times a year to protect the lives of individuals, we should give that up to save the lives of 1,300?
so an example might be, protecting yourself from someone who is attacking you with a gun?
there is a severe issue with school kids getting shot to death, among so many more cases violent gun crime, and untill the ignorant attitude towards firearms changes it will keep happening.
by all means talk and listen to that fucked up kid, save him, but take the gun out of his hands first.
So since guns are used up to 2.5 million times a year to protect the lives of individuals, we should give that up to save the lives of 1,300?
do you see the contadiction youre making? these people are 'protecting' themselves from other people with guns. if nobody had em in the first place, they wouldnt need a gun for protection!
A gun is a tool designed to perform a job. So is a car. Cars just happen to be better performing the job guns were invented for
and that job is kiling other humans deliberately... cars cause death by accident... big difference
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Guns exist. They are never going to NOT exist. That's why I NEED a gun. I WANT a gun because they are fucking cool has hell to shoot
Yes they exist but they don't have to be available to the public outside of strict gun clubs... :rolleyes:
Right gotta go, leave you to it....!!
Astoria Crew
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I WANT a gun because they are fucking cool has hell to shoot
with that immature mentality its no wonder nothing will get done in the states... i'd imagine firing a howitzer is pretty cool as well... morally repugnant at the same time
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
"...that same year there were an estimated 2.55 million defensive gun uses (DGUs), 37.3% of them in the victim/defender's home, or about 950,000 in the home.[9] Although gun control advocates have questioned DGU estimates,[4,11] the claim of large numbers of DGUs has been confirmed in at least 16 surveys, and the criticisms concerning flaws in DGU surveys have been rebutted.[5,9,12] These criticisms were based on one-sided speculation about errors in surveys, rather than empirical evidence. To date, there is no empirical evidence that false-positive reports of DGU outnumber false negatives (ie, failure to report DGUs), and thus no foundation for the claim that surveys overestimate the prevalence of DGUs.[12] In sum, the best available estimates indicate that there are about 6 times as many DGUs in US homes each year as criminal/aggressive uses (950,000:155,000)"
From the School of Criminology and Criminal Justice, Florida State University, Tallahassee.
Reprints: Gary Kleck, PhD, School of Criminology and Criminal Justice, Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306-1127
with that immature mentality its no wonder nothing will get done in the states... i'd imagine firing a howitzer is pretty cool as well... morally repugnant at the same time
Imagine what William Wallace could have done with better armament
Yeah, nothing ever get's done here in the states :rolleyes:
do you see the contadiction youre making? these people are 'protecting' themselves from other people with guns. if nobody had em in the first place, they wouldnt need a gun for protection!
Guns will never go away. Don't you see the fallacy in the argument you are making?
Maybe that is the difference between the rest of the world and the US. We won our independence with firearms. We owe our way of life to that technology.
Maybe that is the difference between the rest of the world and the US. We won our independence with firearms. We owe our way of life to that technology.
William Wallace - late 13th/early 14th century
American independance - late 18th century
Silly comparison...
Lots of countries 'won' (or lost!) their independance with firearms... lots are still fighting for it with firearms..... Don't think the US are so special....
And, if I had to choose between the US or Scotland.. I would go for Scotland! Wouldn't have to worry about my child being killed or maimed by a gun like in the US!
"...that same year there were an estimated 2.55 million defensive gun uses (DGUs), 37.3% of them in the victim/defender's home, or about 950,000 in the home.[9] Although gun control advocates have questioned DGU estimates,[4,11] the claim of large numbers of DGUs has been confirmed in at least 16 surveys, and the criticisms concerning flaws in DGU surveys have been rebutted.[5,9,12] These criticisms were based on one-sided speculation about errors in surveys, rather than empirical evidence. To date, there is no empirical evidence that false-positive reports of DGU outnumber false negatives (ie, failure to report DGUs), and thus no foundation for the claim that surveys overestimate the prevalence of DGUs.[12] In sum, the best available estimates indicate that there are about 6 times as many DGUs in US homes each year as criminal/aggressive uses (950,000:155,000)"
From the School of Criminology and Criminal Justice, Florida State University, Tallahassee.
Reprints: Gary Kleck, PhD, School of Criminology and Criminal Justice, Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306-1127
yep
The National Academy of Sciences conducted a review of current research and data on firearms and violent crime, including Lott's work, and found: [13]
There is no credible evidence that "right-to-carry" laws, which allow qualified adults to carry concealed handguns, either decrease or increase violent crime
thats the National Academy of Sciences versus some tinpot 'academic' who likes guns
i'll go with the former
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Imagine what William Wallace could have done with better armament
Yeah, nothing ever get's done here in the states :rolleyes:
we'd have ruled the world
i never said that... i said nothing will get done in relation to the gun epidemic where kids are being killed unnecessarily!!
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Imagine what William Wallace could have done with better armament
Yeah, nothing ever get's done here in the states :rolleyes:
we'd have ruled the world
i never said that... i said nothing will get done in relation to the gun epidemic where kids are being killed unnecessarily!!
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Imagine what William Wallace could have done with better armament
Yeah, nothing ever get's done here in the states :rolleyes:
we'd have ruled the world
i never said that... i said nothing will get done in relation to the gun epidemic where kids are being killed unnecessarily!!
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Imagine what William Wallace could have done with better armament
Yeah, nothing ever get's done here in the states :rolleyes:
we'd have ruled the world
i never said that... i said nothing will get done in relation to the gun epidemic where kids are being killed unnecessarily!!
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
And, if I had to choose between the US or Scotland.. I would go for Scotland! Wouldn't have to worry about my child being killed or maimed by a gun like in the US!
What if they fall down? What if they get hit by a car? What if they are mauled by a dog?
What if a criminal threatens their lives with a gun? What are you gonna do? Throw haggis at them?
What if they fall down? What if they get hit by a car? What if they are mauled by a dog?
What if a criminal threatens their lives with a gun? What are you gonna do? Throw haggis at them?
:rolleyes: this is like taking a toy from a naughty child... just put the guns back in the box and play nicely heh? you can do it, really you can...
Astoria Crew
Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
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This is just g'bye for now...
"Hand guns are made for killin
Aint no good for nothin else
And if you like your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why dont we dump em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me"
"Hand guns are made for killin
Aint no good for nothin else
And if you like your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why dont we dump em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me"
Nice... Skynyrd quote as well, double :cool: :cool:
Astoria Crew
Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
Astoria, Dublin, Reading 06
Katowice, Wembley 07
SBE, Manchester, O2 09
Hyde Park 10
Manchester 1&2 12
This is just g'bye for now...
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Guns exist. They are never going to NOT exist. That's why I NEED a gun. I WANT a gun because they are fucking cool has hell to shoot
so an example might be, protecting yourself from someone who is attacking you with a gun?
there is a severe issue with school kids getting shot to death, among so many more cases violent gun crime, and untill the ignorant attitude towards firearms changes it will keep happening.
by all means talk and listen to that fucked up kid, save him, but take the gun out of his hands first.
do you see the contadiction youre making? these people are 'protecting' themselves from other people with guns. if nobody had em in the first place, they wouldnt need a gun for protection!
and that job is kiling other humans deliberately... cars cause death by accident... big difference
Yes they exist but they don't have to be available to the public outside of strict gun clubs... :rolleyes:
Right gotta go, leave you to it....!!
Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
Astoria, Dublin, Reading 06
Katowice, Wembley 07
SBE, Manchester, O2 09
Hyde Park 10
Manchester 1&2 12
This is just g'bye for now...
with that immature mentality its no wonder nothing will get done in the states... i'd imagine firing a howitzer is pretty cool as well... morally repugnant at the same time
Bogus, eh?
http://www.guncite.com/kleckjama01.html
"...that same year there were an estimated 2.55 million defensive gun uses (DGUs), 37.3% of them in the victim/defender's home, or about 950,000 in the home.[9] Although gun control advocates have questioned DGU estimates,[4,11] the claim of large numbers of DGUs has been confirmed in at least 16 surveys, and the criticisms concerning flaws in DGU surveys have been rebutted.[5,9,12] These criticisms were based on one-sided speculation about errors in surveys, rather than empirical evidence. To date, there is no empirical evidence that false-positive reports of DGU outnumber false negatives (ie, failure to report DGUs), and thus no foundation for the claim that surveys overestimate the prevalence of DGUs.[12] In sum, the best available estimates indicate that there are about 6 times as many DGUs in US homes each year as criminal/aggressive uses (950,000:155,000)"
From the School of Criminology and Criminal Justice, Florida State University, Tallahassee.
Reprints: Gary Kleck, PhD, School of Criminology and Criminal Justice, Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306-1127
Imagine what William Wallace could have done with better armament
Yeah, nothing ever get's done here in the states :rolleyes:
Guns will never go away. Don't you see the fallacy in the argument you are making?
Oohhh... he saw Braveheart!!!!
Maybe that is the difference between the rest of the world and the US. We won our independence with firearms. We owe our way of life to that technology.
William Wallace - late 13th/early 14th century
American independance - late 18th century
Silly comparison...
Lots of countries 'won' (or lost!) their independance with firearms... lots are still fighting for it with firearms..... Don't think the US are so special....
And, if I had to choose between the US or Scotland.. I would go for Scotland! Wouldn't have to worry about my child being killed or maimed by a gun like in the US!
yep
The National Academy of Sciences conducted a review of current research and data on firearms and violent crime, including Lott's work, and found: [13]
There is no credible evidence that "right-to-carry" laws, which allow qualified adults to carry concealed handguns, either decrease or increase violent crime
thats the National Academy of Sciences versus some tinpot 'academic' who likes guns
i'll go with the former
we'd have ruled the world
i never said that... i said nothing will get done in relation to the gun epidemic where kids are being killed unnecessarily!!
we'd have ruled the world
i never said that... i said nothing will get done in relation to the gun epidemic where kids are being killed unnecessarily!!
we'd have ruled the world
i never said that... i said nothing will get done in relation to the gun epidemic where kids are being killed unnecessarily!!
we'd have ruled the world
i never said that... i said nothing will get done in relation to the gun epidemic where kids are being killed unnecessarily!!
What if they fall down? What if they get hit by a car? What if they are mauled by a dog?
What if a criminal threatens their lives with a gun? What are you gonna do? Throw haggis at them?
There is no epidemic. There are only a few highly publicised cases.
You go girl!
Those are accidents... deal with it.
That wouldn't happen if there were no guns... And throwing a wild haggis at someone could do some damage!
:rolleyes: this is like taking a toy from a naughty child... just put the guns back in the box and play nicely heh? you can do it, really you can...
Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
Astoria, Dublin, Reading 06
Katowice, Wembley 07
SBE, Manchester, O2 09
Hyde Park 10
Manchester 1&2 12
This is just g'bye for now...
Aint no good for nothin else
And if you like your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why dont we dump em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me"
Nice... Skynyrd quote as well, double :cool: :cool:
Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
Astoria, Dublin, Reading 06
Katowice, Wembley 07
SBE, Manchester, O2 09
Hyde Park 10
Manchester 1&2 12
This is just g'bye for now...