Chavez shutting down private tv station

B nice

bootlegger10 wrote:

So you hate America?

(That line never gets old)

what makes us great is our liberalism

look it up

shouldn't you be losing a war or sodomizing some a-rab right now ??
go burn a book...like the bible, you religious fanatic

bootlegger10

B nice wrote:

what makes us great is our liberalism

look it up

shouldn't you be losing a war or sodomizing some a-rab right now ??
go burn a book...like the bible, you religious fanatic

Look at you get all angry over a joke. Angry liberals never disappoint.

gue_barium

According to an unclassified State Department memo, “A program that gives Flores a better understanding of and closer ties with U.S. media executive decision-making policies and practices can help Globovision, already the country’s news leader, an even more professional responsible force in Venezuela’s media environment, with profound implications not only for more positive coverage of U.S. policies but for Venezuela’s evolving political situation as well.”


http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=2309

Braighni

From wikipedia (the lazy mans research tool I know but its quick and contained the point I heard raised last week)

Criticism

RCTV has been criticized by Hugo Chávez's government and supporters for its role in the attempted coup of April 11, 2002 and the December 2, 2002 to February 4, 2003 general strike (during which free advertisements for the opposition were broadcast by privately owned TV stations including RCTV). On the afternoon of April 11, 2002, RCTV interrupted a speech made by Chávez to broadcast a shooting that was taking place at an opposition march. Over the next couple of days, the private networks supported Pedro Carmona's interim government, which dissolved the National Assembly and suspended the Constitution. As the coup began to collapse due to popular pressure to restore the democratically elected president to power, RCTV conducted a news blackout.

CaterinaA

gue_barium wrote:

According to an unclassified State Department memo, “A program that gives Flores a better understanding of and closer ties with U.S. media executive decision-making policies and practices can help Globovision, already the country’s news leader, an even more professional responsible force in Venezuela’s media environment, with profound implications not only for more positive coverage of U.S. policies but for Venezuela’s evolving political situation as well.”


http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=2309

I just read the article. But just so you know, Globovision's concession is not the one at stake, it is RCTV that was shut down.

And couldn't you find a more pro-Chavez webiste

gue_barium

CaterinaA wrote:

I just read the article. But just so you know, Globovision's concession is not the one at stake, it is RCTV that was shut down.

And couldn't you find a more pro-Chavez webiste

I know they aren't the same TV stations, but it is the US State Department meddling in Venezuelan media affairs that is the story.

CaterinaA

Braighni wrote:

From wikipedia (the lazy mans research tool I know but its quick and contained the point I heard raised last week)
RCTV has been criticized by Hugo Chávez's government and supporters for its role in the attempted coup of April 11, 2002 and the December 2, 2002 to February 4, 2003 general strike (during which free advertisements for the opposition were broadcast by privately owned TV stations including RCTV). On the afternoon of April 11, 2002, RCTV interrupted a speech made by Chávez to broadcast a shooting that was taking place at an opposition march. Over the next couple of days, the private networks supported Pedro Carmona's interim government, which dissolved the National Assembly and suspended the Constitution. As the coup began to collapse due to popular pressure to restore the democratically elected president to power, RCTV conducted a news blackout.

Well, this is at best partially true. I don't have the links right now, but I remember perfectly those days.

First of all, Chavez himself attempted two Coup d'Etat at a democratic governmet in 1992, I remember the F-16 blasting through the air. This is just some background data.

On April 11th 2002, yes RCTV stopped broadcasting a Chavez's speech because civilians were being shot in a pacific rally by Chavez supporters (Chavez' hitmen to be more accurate), I'm sorry but I would call this relevant news material.

Yes, all private networks were wrong in not condemning the Coup d'Etat. However, when Chavez regained power, those networks (RCTV, Venevisión and Televén) did not conduct a news blackout, their signal was shut down by the goverment and they could not broadcast. Only a local news cable channel was able to broadcast what was going on and the rest of Latin America's news reports and shows picked up that signal and those coming from the government.

CaterinaA

gue_barium wrote:

I know they aren't the same TV stations, but it is the US State Department meddling in Venezuelan media affairs that is the story.

I'm sorry, but you can't be neutral in this particular case. I won't agree with what you say but I'll defend your right to say it. This is what freedom of speech is all about.

I don't care how much Chavez' government want to disguise it, the only reason this channel is being shut down is because he does not like its editorial line, period. Have you read the official resolution, which states the reasons for ceasing the contract?

Among the reasons cited are: excessive violence in their programming, excess of sex content in their soap-operas, excess of reality shows in their programming and, this is my favorite, RCTV content is not in tune with Venezuela's current and future destination.

And what about the fact that this is a private network and the Supreme Court allowed the government to retain the channel's facilities and equipment?

gue_barium

CaterinaA wrote:

I'm sorry, but you can't be neutral in this particular case. I won't agree with what you say but I'll defend your right to say it. This is what freedom of speech is all about.

I don't care how much Chavez' government want to disguise it, the only reason this channel is being shut down is because he does not like its editorial line, period. Have you read the official resolution, which states the reasons for ceasing the contract?

Among the reasons cited are: excessive violence in their programming, excess of sex content in their soap-operas, excess of reality shows in their programming and, this is my favorite, RCTV content is not in tune with Venezuela's current and future destination.

And what about the fact that this is a private network and the Supreme Court allowed the government to retain the channel's facilities and equipment?

Well, I'm not neutral. I wouldn't have a problem with Fox, et al being shut-down here in the US.

CaterinaA

gue_barium wrote:

Well, I'm not neutral. I wouldn't have a problem with Fox, et al being shut-down here in the US.

So, I guess there is not much room for us to discuss about this. Although I don't live in the US, I'm pretty sure I'd strongly disagree with FOX editorial line, but I would never ever condone censoring FOX. I don't care if the media outlet caters to my taste or not, I can't stand censorship, period...

Peace

Caterina

gue_barium

CaterinaA wrote:

So, I guess there is not much room for us to discuss about this. Although I don't live in the US, I'm pretty sure I'd strongly disagree with FOX editorial line, but I would never ever condone censoring FOX. I don't care if the media outlet caters to my taste or not, I can't stand censorship, period...

Peace

Caterina

I don't think this is about censorship, or freedom of speech.

jeffbr

CaterinaA wrote:

So, I guess there is not much room for us to discuss about this. Although I don't live in the US, I'm pretty sure I'd strongly disagree with FOX editorial line, but I would never ever condone censoring FOX. I don't care if the media outlet caters to my taste or not, I can't stand censorship, period...

Peace

Caterina

Most people would agree with you 100% about that. I don't watch Fox news because I have a choice not to. Gue would have the government tell me what to do, say, think, learn, and is perfectly happy removing choice.

gue_barium

jeffbr wrote:

Most people would agree with you 100% about that. I don't watch Fox news because I have a choice not to. Gue would have the government tell me what to do, say, think, learn, and is perfectly happy removing choice.

Why would I do that? I have no say in that matter, nor would I want to.

jeffbr

gue_barium wrote:

I don't think this is about censorship, or freedom of speech.

By definition it most certainly is. Regardless of what you think.

gue_barium

jeffbr wrote:

By definition it most certainly is. Regardless of what you think.

Believe what you would like.

Believing what you like has very little to do with Television, I would hope.

farfromglorified

CaterinaA wrote:

issued an act which states that all of RCTV equipment must be handed to the government new channel. This measure is allegedly temporary, until the new channel buys its own equipment.

Hehehehe.....thankfully humor is not in such short supply as hope.

CaterinaA

gue_barium wrote:

I don't think this is about censorship, or freedom of speech.

And this is about what then?

RCTV was the ONLY channel that had total national coverage and also was the ONLY channel still having an opposition editorial stand point. The other private channels (Venevision and Televen) got scared so they gave up on giving news contrary to the government. So, I believe the government had a clear interest in having this channel for itself. Very tempting if you ask me. Now Chavez' regime has for itself the channel with largest coverage.

Oh and so you know, this channel was broadcasting official news and Chavez speeches, according to the "Media Social Responsability Act". According to such law, private channels were obliged to give away like two hours of their programming to the government. Censorship was already taking place thanks to this act, so if you ask me this is about controlling every single media of the country.

Oh, by the way, according to every single poll conducted in Venezuela, approx. 80% of the population was against the shutting down of RCTV.

gue_barium

CaterinaA wrote:

And this is about what then?

RCTV was the ONLY channel that had total national coverage and also was the ONLY channel still having an opposition editorial stand point. The other private channels (Venevision and Televen) got scared so they gave up on giving news contrary to the government. So, I believe the government had a clear interest in having this channel for itself. Very tempting if you ask me. Now Chavez' regime has for itself the channel with largest coverage.

Oh and so you know, this channel was broadcasting official news and Chavez speeches, according to the "Media Social Responsability Act". According to such law, private channels were obliged to give away like two hours of their programming to the government. Censorship was already taking place thanks to this act, so if you ask me this is about controlling every single media of the country.

Oh, by the way, according to every single poll conducted in Venezuela, approx. 80% of the population was against the shutting down of RCTV.

Well, regardless of how you want to spin this, government and media go hand in hand everywhere in the world. Just a handful of people, relatively speaking, control the entire network of what is available for viewers to watch worldwide. This isn't news. If you want to call censorship, then call it on the entire television-government world.

NMyTree

Chavez showed his tru colors several years ago.

His phoney smokescreen that which portrayed him as a man giving power back to the people and elevating them from poverty...etc..etc; was exposed quite a while ago. The guy is just another power-hungry, violent murderer; just like all the other assholes around the world.

gue_barium

NMyTree wrote:

Chavez showed his tru colors several years ago.

yes, how so?

His phoney smokescreen that which portrayed him as a man giving power back to the people and elevating them from poverty...etc..etc; was exposed quite a while ago. The guy is just another power-hungry, violent murderer; just like all the other assholes around the world.

Well, Venezuela is doing that. Even poor Americans have benefited from Venezuelan "charity".