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I lost a BMW today.'I know I was born and I know that I'll die, the in between is mine.'0
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Bad day.... this will take away from future long pj trips...josevolution said:
I’ve stopped looking at mine ..CM189191 said:this morning ought to be fun
how much more will my 401k lose?"The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
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good read...tks for the sharedignin said:Peter Tertzakian: This crude war is about a lot more than oil prices and market share
For oil companies that didn’t take precautions after the last price war, this one is likely to be deadly
The coronavirus preys on the old and frail. Price wars kill off the weak too, in a corporate sense.
Both scourges are ravaging the global oil and gas business, with little visibility on how or when things will be resolved. Market death. That’s what happens to weak companies that succumb to low product prices.
The Russians know this, which is why they pulled the “plus” out of the OPEC+ last week. By breaking rank from the price-protecting cartel, they signalled intent to take down their nemesis: the American oil and gas industry. I can envisage Vladimir Putin opening his desk drawer and pulling out his specially embossed copy of Sun Tzu’s The Art of War.
To Russia, this price war is more than just about regaining market share for oil; it’s about assaulting the Western economy, especially America’s
The Saudis, reportedly angered by the Russian move, pulled their own quotation out of Tzu’s battle notes: “In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity.” So now, instead of offering any production cuts, two of the three largest oil-producing countries are flooding the market. Already, a barrel of oil is selling for less than a bottle of black-market hand sanitizer.
https://business.financialpost.com/commodities/energy/peter-tertzakian-this-crude-war-is-about-a-lot-more-than-oil-prices-and-market-share"The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
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If stephen miller or sean hannity had whispered in his ear that President Obama loved guns and hated abortion he would have made guns illegal and abortion would be legally safe.josevolution said:
People totally disregard that fact! Baffoon administration totally gutted the program put in place by Obama when the Ebola outbreak hitHalifax2TheMax said:
Markets like stability and the world used to look to the United States for steady, effective leadership during times of crisis. Team Trump Treason is trying to BS his way through this and that should be obvious to anyone paying attention. I absolutely blame Team Trump Treason as he dismantled and defunded the apparatus initiated by Obama, because it was an Obama era program, and an Obama era program only, that was created for a situation just like this. Really, don’t blame Team Trump Treason? For fucks sake.tempo_n_groove said:
Blame the corona virus for the start of this not Trump.Halifax2TheMax said:Down 1,885 prior to halting trading. Thanks very stable genius. Scowling and stalking around and trying to BS your way through this is not a good look.
His smugness of us being ok about it makes him sound like a used car dealer though.0 -
So I’m expecting full on panic at the markets today.Complete sell offs.That recession that people said was coming is Here.Just quarantine the whole damn country and get this over with already.0
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Dow futures are up. It sounds like you’re bitter, adding to the hysteria.tempo_n_groove said:So I’m expecting full on panic at the markets today.Complete sell offs.That recession that people said was coming is Here.Just quarantine the whole damn country and get this over with already.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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It will be up and down all week. My guess is the week closes around 22500 to 23000. I don't think we've hit the near term floor resistance. The news says "after Trump considers stimulus", but the senate is already cool to it and the House has called it a non-starter. So I don't know that a payroll tax cut is in the works.Halifax2TheMax said:
Dow futures are up. It sounds like you’re bitter, adding to the hysteria.tempo_n_groove said:So I’m expecting full on panic at the markets today.Complete sell offs.That recession that people said was coming is Here.Just quarantine the whole damn country and get this over with already.0 -
so where DO you see the floor being?mrussel1 said:
It will be up and down all week. My guess is the week closes around 22500 to 23000. I don't think we've hit the near term floor resistance. The news says "after Trump considers stimulus", but the senate is already cool to it and the House has called it a non-starter. So I don't know that a payroll tax cut is in the works.Halifax2TheMax said:
Dow futures are up. It sounds like you’re bitter, adding to the hysteria.tempo_n_groove said:So I’m expecting full on panic at the markets today.Complete sell offs.That recession that people said was coming is Here.Just quarantine the whole damn country and get this over with already.
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Sarcasm? Futures are up...tempo_n_groove said:So I’m expecting full on panic at the markets today.Complete sell offs.That recession that people said was coming is Here.Just quarantine the whole damn country and get this over with already.www.myspace.com0 -
Yes.mrussel1 said:
It will be up and down all week. My guess is the week closes around 22500 to 23000. I don't think we've hit the near term floor resistance. The news says "after Trump considers stimulus", but the senate is already cool to it and the House has called it a non-starter. So I don't know that a payroll tax cut is in the works.Halifax2TheMax said:
Dow futures are up. It sounds like you’re bitter, adding to the hysteria.tempo_n_groove said:So I’m expecting full on panic at the markets today.Complete sell offs.That recession that people said was coming is Here.Just quarantine the whole damn country and get this over with already.
The problem has always been (for his entire adult life) that Donald Trump has the shortest view in the room. Way too focused on daily movements of the stock market---the opposite of what investors advise people on.
He over sells and under delivers. He's actually a horrible salesperson when he is selling to informed buyers. The uninformed deplorable base lap it up though...Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
I actually agree with tempo. The futures are up, but I would bet on the end of day numbers to be down. it's just going to be a roller coaster for a while.The Juggler said:
Sarcasm? Futures are up...tempo_n_groove said:So I’m expecting full on panic at the markets today.Complete sell offs.That recession that people said was coming is Here.Just quarantine the whole damn country and get this over with already.0 -
Geez I don't know.. maybe 20? It's so hard to say. I think the panic is well placed. I have to believe many companies will miss earnings for Q1 and probably Q2 as well, depending on how long before the cases flat line.mickeyrat said:
so where DO you see the floor being?mrussel1 said:
It will be up and down all week. My guess is the week closes around 22500 to 23000. I don't think we've hit the near term floor resistance. The news says "after Trump considers stimulus", but the senate is already cool to it and the House has called it a non-starter. So I don't know that a payroll tax cut is in the works.Halifax2TheMax said:
Dow futures are up. It sounds like you’re bitter, adding to the hysteria.tempo_n_groove said:So I’m expecting full on panic at the markets today.Complete sell offs.That recession that people said was coming is Here.Just quarantine the whole damn country and get this over with already.0 -
mrussel1 said:
Geez I don't know.. maybe 20? It's so hard to say. I think the panic is well placed. I have to believe many companies will miss earnings for Q1 and probably Q2 as well, depending on how long before the cases flat line.mickeyrat said:
so where DO you see the floor being?mrussel1 said:
It will be up and down all week. My guess is the week closes around 22500 to 23000. I don't think we've hit the near term floor resistance. The news says "after Trump considers stimulus", but the senate is already cool to it and the House has called it a non-starter. So I don't know that a payroll tax cut is in the works.Halifax2TheMax said:
Dow futures are up. It sounds like you’re bitter, adding to the hysteria.tempo_n_groove said:So I’m expecting full on panic at the markets today.Complete sell offs.That recession that people said was coming is Here.Just quarantine the whole damn country and get this over with already.I am ignorant of all this stuff but it seems to me to be this needed market correction in line with Obama era numbers?08 we drop to 7k or low 8k right? end of obamas terms we are are 18k. so we go from there to a high under dipshit to 29k after the cuts went in effect?if that is true then your guess of 20 puts it in line with where we might should be?or should I just stick to driving?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Watch them go down after they realize Trump doesn't have a coherent plan...mrussel1 said:
I actually agree with tempo. The futures are up, but I would bet on the end of day numbers to be down. it's just going to be a roller coaster for a while.The Juggler said:
Sarcasm? Futures are up...tempo_n_groove said:So I’m expecting full on panic at the markets today.Complete sell offs.That recession that people said was coming is Here.Just quarantine the whole damn country and get this over with already.www.myspace.com0 -
And this is what passes for leadership these days. Yea, steady at the helm.
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Here it comes baby.
We'll be in the red by lunchtime.'I know I was born and I know that I'll die, the in between is mine.'0 -
Let’s hope so, I need a good sale!The Juggler said:
Watch them go down after they realize Trump doesn't have a coherent plan...mrussel1 said:
I actually agree with tempo. The futures are up, but I would bet on the end of day numbers to be down. it's just going to be a roller coaster for a while.The Juggler said:
Sarcasm? Futures are up...tempo_n_groove said:So I’m expecting full on panic at the markets today.Complete sell offs.That recession that people said was coming is Here.Just quarantine the whole damn country and get this over with already.0 -
well maybe tomorrowPJPOWER said:
Let’s hope so, I need a good sale!The Juggler said:
Watch them go down after they realize Trump doesn't have a coherent plan...mrussel1 said:
I actually agree with tempo. The futures are up, but I would bet on the end of day numbers to be down. it's just going to be a roller coaster for a while.The Juggler said:
Sarcasm? Futures are up...tempo_n_groove said:So I’m expecting full on panic at the markets today.Complete sell offs.That recession that people said was coming is Here.Just quarantine the whole damn country and get this over with already.www.myspace.com0 -
The world is on fire.'I know I was born and I know that I'll die, the in between is mine.'0
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2008 was down then rally, down then rally. If we see that happening again let's talk more.The Juggler said:
Sarcasm? Futures are up...tempo_n_groove said:So I’m expecting full on panic at the markets today.Complete sell offs.That recession that people said was coming is Here.Just quarantine the whole damn country and get this over with already.
Oil futures have nowhere else to go but up, they are lowest I think they will be.0
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