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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    this morning ought to be fun
    how much more will my 401k lose?
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,901
    CM189191 said:
    this morning ought to be fun
    how much more will my 401k lose?
    I’ve stopped looking at mine ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,805
    Reviving this sucker. Trading halted at 8 pm on Sunday night due to meet the 5% loss threshold.  Oil crashed.  Shale production will now stop, as its below the shut down price.  This affects quite a few US jobs.  Yield down to 1%.  

    Going to be a helluva week.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,288
    My wife must be the most optimistic person on the face of the earth.  She's really into watching the market and keeps telling me "it will be alright" and "you have to look at the long range picture" and "when it goes down, that's the time to by" and that sort of thing.  She talks about "stop losses" and such.  I kind of look at her and nod and in my little cloud bubble above my head it say, "I'm glad we've got some cash stashed away."  and, "Well, at least the mortgage is fairly low and we have no other debts." 

    And plenty of "read and then burn for fuel" if the going really gets rough.  :lol:

    But, yeah, seriously, things are getting interesting.   We've been through rough times before- the great depression, the dust bowl, to name a few.  Looks like it's time to become creative, ambitious, and tenacious once again.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,805
    brianlux said:
    My wife must be the most optimistic person on the face of the earth.  She's really into watching the market and keeps telling me "it will be alright" and "you have to look at the long range picture" and "when it goes down, that's the time to by" and that sort of thing.  She talks about "stop losses" and such.  I kind of look at her and nod and in my little cloud bubble above my head it say, "I'm glad we've got some cash stashed away."  and, "Well, at least the mortgage is fairly low and we have no other debts." 

    And plenty of "read and then burn for fuel" if the going really gets rough.  :lol:

    But, yeah, seriously, things are getting interesting.   We've been through rough times before- the great depression, the dust bowl, to name a few.  Looks like it's time to become creative, ambitious, and tenacious once again.
    Your wife is right.  This is all short term, maybe a month, maybe 6 months.  I wouldn't buy now though, that's for sure.  I think we have some more dropping to do.  The virus needs to slow down first.  Right now, it's accelerating. 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    Panic always fucks up things that didn’t need to be fucked up. This didn’t need to happen. The markets will recover. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,805
    Panic always fucks up things that didn’t need to be fucked up. This didn’t need to happen. The markets will recover. 
    It will recover, but the market is right.  Profits and earning are likely to be way down in the next quarter or two.  The economic hit from this is real.  Every company I deal with has cancelled travel for the next 30 days to start.  Think about the effect on airline revenue, hotels, food, bars, etc.  That's just one little microcosm.  Then extrapolate it.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,237
    I surely hope this has companies rethinking so much manufacturing and import from China
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,288
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    My wife must be the most optimistic person on the face of the earth.  She's really into watching the market and keeps telling me "it will be alright" and "you have to look at the long range picture" and "when it goes down, that's the time to by" and that sort of thing.  She talks about "stop losses" and such.  I kind of look at her and nod and in my little cloud bubble above my head it say, "I'm glad we've got some cash stashed away."  and, "Well, at least the mortgage is fairly low and we have no other debts." 

    And plenty of "read and then burn for fuel" if the going really gets rough.  :lol:

    But, yeah, seriously, things are getting interesting.   We've been through rough times before- the great depression, the dust bowl, to name a few.  Looks like it's time to become creative, ambitious, and tenacious once again.
    Your wife is right.  This is all short term, maybe a month, maybe 6 months.  I wouldn't buy now though, that's for sure.  I think we have some more dropping to do.  The virus needs to slow down first.  Right now, it's accelerating. 
    Good to know.
    Panic always fucks up things that didn’t need to be fucked up. This didn’t need to happen. The markets will recover. 
    Good to know.  Now I can forget about burning my credit card for fuel!

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  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    mickeyrat said:
    I surely hope this has companies rethinking so much manufacturing and import from China
     The greed of profit over all else will eventually come back and bite us...  
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    mrussel1 said:
    Panic always fucks up things that didn’t need to be fucked up. This didn’t need to happen. The markets will recover. 
    It will recover, but the market is right.  Profits and earning are likely to be way down in the next quarter or two.  The economic hit from this is real.  Every company I deal with has cancelled travel for the next 30 days to start.  Think about the effect on airline revenue, hotels, food, bars, etc.  That's just one little microcosm.  Then extrapolate it.  

    Sure, the economic effect of the virus is real, but panic will accentuate it in ways that aren't necessary. 
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  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    Keep your arms and legs in the vehicle at all times.. gonna be a bumpy ride!
    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    edited March 2020
    What?  Economies can't go up forever?

    When greed takes precedent over everything else they have to adjust.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,288
    edited March 2020
    myoung321 said:
    Keep your arms and legs in the vehicle at all times.. gonna be a bumpy ride!

    When I was a kid, my sister took drivers ed at school.  This was back in the day when they showed kids movies of people in a crash losing body parts like arms and heads that were outside the window of a vehicle.  So now, whenever my wife and I are out and about, if I see an arm or a leg sticking out a window I say, "Let's get close- that  arm is coming off!"  She rolls here eyes, I laugh, and give the guy a break.
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
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    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    OPEC asked for help from Russia to lower production to increase oil prices, they declined so OPEC flooded the market with cheap crude and sent the prices tumbling and the rest of the stock market with it.

    Happy Monday Morning to you.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    FYI Light sweet Crude is hovering at just over $30 a barrel.

    Crazy...  Down 25%.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,805
    FYI Light sweet Crude is hovering at just over $30 a barrel.

    Crazy...  Down 25%.
    The fracking will be shut down in the US. 
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    #trumpslump
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    mrussel1 said:
    FYI Light sweet Crude is hovering at just over $30 a barrel.

    Crazy...  Down 25%.
    The fracking will be shut down in the US. 
    The reason it will shut down is from the overall cost it takes to get the oil.  Read an interesting article on the shale deposits.

    If you have money invested in that I would pull out.  Not looking so good.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,805
    mrussel1 said:
    FYI Light sweet Crude is hovering at just over $30 a barrel.

    Crazy...  Down 25%.
    The fracking will be shut down in the US. 
    The reason it will shut down is from the overall cost it takes to get the oil.  Read an interesting article on the shale deposits.

    If you have money invested in that I would pull out.  Not looking so good.
    Yes, because the light sweet crude is almost the same price.  I would never invest in that product.  It's boom or bust.  It's an ongoing cycle of ramping up and shutting down.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,318
    Down 1,885 prior to halting trading. Thanks very stable genius. Scowling and stalking around and trying to BS your way through this is not a good look.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    But...but Donald Trump said "the stock market is starting to look very good to me (!)" two weeks ago today. 

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    Down 1,885 prior to halting trading. Thanks very stable genius. Scowling and stalking around and trying to BS your way through this is not a good look.
    Blame the corona virus for the start of this not Trump.

    His smugness of us being ok about it makes him sound like a used car dealer though.




  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,298
    Nero. Rome Burning.

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,805
    JimmyV said:
    Nero. Rome Burning.

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    I posted the same on the Trump page.  It's hilarious that neither of these dolts understands the reference.  
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    edited March 2020
    It's a good thing we gave tax cuts to the very wealthy during a time when the economy didn't need any help. Also a good thing the president bullied the fed to cut interest rates at a time they didn't really need to. Not like we could that extra ammo right now. 

    Also a good thing this administration has spent and spent and spent like none before it over the last three years. 

    None of those things are going to come back and bite us in the ass.

    Oh wait.....the president bankrupted a casino multiple times? Fuck. Who could have ever predicted this?
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    So I just learned that the stock market has a "circuit breaker".

    The market shuts down at 7% for 15 minutes.  It will then shut down for an additional 15 minutes if it goes down 13%.

    If the market drops 20% trading resumes for the day.

    Never knew this.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,318
    Down 1,885 prior to halting trading. Thanks very stable genius. Scowling and stalking around and trying to BS your way through this is not a good look.
    Blame the corona virus for the start of this not Trump.

    His smugness of us being ok about it makes him sound like a used car dealer though.




    Markets like stability and the world used to look to the United States for steady, effective leadership during times of crisis. Team Trump Treason is trying to BS his way through this and that should be obvious to anyone paying attention. I absolutely blame Team Trump Treason as he dismantled and defunded the apparatus initiated by Obama, because it was an Obama era program, and an Obama era program only, that was created for a situation just like this. Really, don’t blame Team Trump Treason? For fucks sake.
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