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  • davidtrios
    davidtrios Posts: 9,732
    ouch -383
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    davidtrios said:

    ouch -383

    Just don't look at this qtr statement.It will feel better that way!
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    It's time again, people...
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-16/jim-rogers-warns-albert-edwards-right-sell-everything-run-your-lives
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,853
    Zerohedge is nothing but a one sided financial doomsday tabloid
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,412
    glad I cant get into my 401K account at the moment
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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    edited October 2014
    MayDay10 said:

    Zerohedge is nothing but a one sided financial doomsday tabloid

    yeah i really don't disagree with you there at all. Financial Armageddon Fear Porn for sure.
    But I posted that link for the Jim Rogers interview video it contains, and there really is no opinon in the article in that link anyway. its a synoposis of the video, really.

    Regarding your allegation, even so, I find going to sites like that are helpful in that you know what you are getting. If I am looking for the "truth" regarding economic numbers and the global market news for the day, I go there. Better than having to run a google search and clicking 15 links. Better than MSN or any MSM site. You can (and I certainly do) take the opinions with a grain of salt, but simply for the charts and data they aggregate, it is worth the visit.

    I don't really have the desire to check Goldman Sach's bullshit advisories and reports day in and day out, so it's nice when ZeroHedge can cut through the bullshit, and bring you a chart like the one below, because, really, sometimes that's all you need. I mean, it kinda says it all, and you don't even need the opinions on the page. They've done the digging through the BS, and BAM ...
    image
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    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    edited October 2014
    Two more great finds by Zerohedge in the last few days ...
    just how much fear \ uncertainty is out there right now?
    Why THIS much:
    image
    story here
    And the multi-TRILLION dollar question ...
    Just HOW much of the economy DOES the FED control?
    Do markets really LIVE AND DIE BY THE FED?
    Hmmm, YOU TELL ME:
    image
    story here

    And a non-Zerohedge confirmation for the last chart, that they aren't just making crazy correlations (although it should be perfectly apparent at this point in history that they are correct, just in case, here:)
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-04/s-p-500-s-link-to-fed-assets-seen-as-warning-chart-of-the-day.html
    Post edited by DriftingByTheStorm on
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    edited October 2014
    But if you math out the Feds tinkering (rigging) you can see we are flat and in the ditch still...
    image
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    Should we revise this thread?

    Is the correction coming again?

    Dow is down 700.

    https://markets.businessinsider.com/index/dow_jones
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    Final call was 798 down.

    There is an article that talks about the T note and the trend it is in.  The last time this happened the global recession started.  This time around I will be paying even more close attention to the markets and the trends.
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Final call was 798 down.

    There is an article that talks about the T note and the trend it is in.  The last time this happened the global recession started.  This time around I will be paying even more close attention to the markets and the trends.
    On days like today, I really miss working on Wall Street.

    Oh, and Southeast Asia isn't going to weather the next recession as well as it did the last one. 
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Final call was 798 down.

    There is an article that talks about the T note and the trend it is in.  The last time this happened the global recession started.  This time around I will be paying even more close attention to the markets and the trends.
    On days like today, I really miss working on Wall Street.

    Oh, and Southeast Asia isn't going to weather the next recession as well as it did the last one. 
    If you mean China?  I picture them falling really hard.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/yield-curve-inversion-pressures-fed-amid-trump-rate-cut-demand-2019-8-1028447056

    Pay attention everyone.
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    tempo_n_groove said:
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Final call was 798 down.

    There is an article that talks about the T note and the trend it is in.  The last time this happened the global recession started.  This time around I will be paying even more close attention to the markets and the trends.
    On days like today, I really miss working on Wall Street.

    Oh, and Southeast Asia isn't going to weather the next recession as well as it did the last one. 
    If you mean China?  I picture them falling really hard.
    China's weakening position is one reason why Southeast Asia won't fare as well.
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,419
    I blame Obama
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    Bentleyspop said:
    I blame Obama
    It's because of the emails, stop it.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Final call was 798 down.

    There is an article that talks about the T note and the trend it is in.  The last time this happened the global recession started.  This time around I will be paying even more close attention to the markets and the trends.
    Smart. I am mortified that this thread shows that in 2007 I was in denial. All of my adult life things had been going up, up, up! And I didn't believe in 2007 that the recession was just around the corner. I ignored it and pretty much lost everything. I was heavily leveraged and when the bottom dropped out I couldn't make margin calls. Follow 2008 with the 2010 housing crash and I had pretty much lost everything. Went from living the high life to being a pauper. And without wealth I guess my then wife decided it was the right time to bail, too! lol. It changed the way I thought (and think) about everything from politics to investing to my own personal life and relationships. Anyway, lessons learned. One lesson is to not take financial advice from my 2007 self!

    Good time to resurrect this thread. Let 2007 be an object lesson. Pay attention to the indicators. Don't believe the hype.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    jeffbr said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Final call was 798 down.

    There is an article that talks about the T note and the trend it is in.  The last time this happened the global recession started.  This time around I will be paying even more close attention to the markets and the trends.
    Smart. I am mortified that this thread shows that in 2007 I was in denial. All of my adult life things had been going up, up, up! And I didn't believe in 2007 that the recession was just around the corner. I ignored it and pretty much lost everything. I was heavily leveraged and when the bottom dropped out I couldn't make margin calls. Follow 2008 with the 2010 housing crash and I had pretty much lost everything. Went from living the high life to being a pauper. And without wealth I guess my then wife decided it was the right time to bail, too! lol. It changed the way I thought (and think) about everything from politics to investing to my own personal life and relationships. Anyway, lessons learned. One lesson is to not take financial advice from my 2007 self!

    Good time to resurrect this thread. Let 2007 be an object lesson. Pay attention to the indicators. Don't believe the hype.
    I went through and read some of the comments and was shocked that the thread didn't continue.

    I'm glad you see things differently now.  I'll be paying attention and start the big PJ sell off now.
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    It’s bound to happen anytime now.  I read an interesting article yesterday that used the acronym T.I.N.A.  It stood for “there is no alternative” and it was referring to buying stock.  With the Fed keeping rates low for so long, and investors getting such poor returns on bonds (today’s 10 year treasury yield is 1.58), there is no alternative but to take on riskier investments (i.e. equities), unless you want to sit in cash. This has been a contributor to the continuous stock market rise regardless of corporate earnings and other indicators.  It makes a lot of sense and also makes sense as to why Trump continues to tweet at the Fed to lower rates. By doing so, it could potentially help prop up stock valuations. And a strong (at least in perception) economy likely gets him re-elected. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,881
    All signs point to a recession.  I tend to think we're there practically,  even if GDP isn't negative this quarter.  I do some work with a PE, and they have been selling off portfolios that are sensitive to macro trends,  specifically casual restaurants.  They started that process in the first quarter and wrapping up deals now.  

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