"Above all Jews are the most racist people on the planet."

shiraz

Ahnimus wrote:

No what you need to do is recognize that it's happening and not be a sheep to your government. I don't live in the US, but I almost always know what's going on there. As I know what happens in Canada. I feel a personal responsibility to know what happens in the world.

But I am, you're just assuming I'm not to make a point.

Ahnimus

danmac wrote:

"Above all, the white, western peoples are the most racist people on the planet."

That's what they say in school, but school isn't always right. No it's not!

lol, I'm not a racist, despite what people here say, yet I've been labelled one since birth.

Ahnimus

shiraz wrote:

But I am, you're just assuming I'm not to make a point.

Then that's good, I always just see you defending Israel's actions and labelling people. Sorry, I didn't understand what your position is.

Puck78

danmac wrote:

"Above all, the white, western peoples are the most racist people on the planet."

Though the jews and the blacks and the chinese and the turks and the serbs etc etc have all had their moment under the racist, ethnic cleansing genocidal sun, none of them holds a candle to us, the white man.

What the Israeli government is doing now, and has been since the plan of a migration to Eretz Israel, is nothing more than an extension of Western colonial, imperialist interests. Without Oil, the Us and Uk would not need the Israel State to act as proxy in the region.

1. aren't serb "white"????
2. this is a generalization. i have to say that i don't like generalizations. If we start to list the etnies in daghestan, fighting against one each other, the racism between different etnies in Iraq, the problems between turkish and kurds, the problems still going on between hutu and tutsi... well... you understood

It's always stupid to make "charts" on human rights. Every single human rights violation is bad and must be considered seriously.

shiraz

Ahnimus wrote:

Then that's good, I always just see you defending Israel's actions and labelling people. Sorry, I didn't understand what your position is.

You saw what you wanted to see, and read what you wanted to read. I wrote it over and over again - BOTH sides are doing catastrophic things to each other, and by saying both sides I mean Isreal & Palestine. Our reaction in Lebanon was unavoidable, but yet UNmeasured. Really, I think I wrote it about a million times, but some of you probably cann't accept the fact Israeli jew is acually saying this, and also claiming to represent the majority of Isreali people. After all, it contradicts your theories about us, right? I guess you can not live with that.

danmac

Puck78 wrote:

1. aren't serb "white"????
2. this is a generalization. i have to say that i don't like generalizations. If we start to list the etnies in daghestan, fighting against one each other, the racism between different etnies in Iraq, the problems between turkish and kurds, the problems still going on between hutu and tutsi... well... you understood

It's always stupid to make "charts" on human rights. Every single human rights violation is bad and must be considered seriously.

1) Yep, they are. I was referring to Western whites, British and American, Australian, and before them Spanish, and though Serbia is now classed as European, it has never been what you might call part of the Western Imperial colonial heritage. But that's splitting hairs.

2) As far as Turkey goes, I was referring to the 1.2 million Armenians ethnically cleansed in the 1920s, not neccessarily the current Kurdish dispute. Tribal disputes have and always will happen, but never will the slaughter approach that wrought by the west upon the indigenous peoples around the world. Howvere, in Iraq, until the west back in there, the sunni's and shia's weren't murdering each other as they are now.
I think you went off track with that, but nevermind.

So, anyway, how's Liverpool?

Puck78

danmac wrote:

Tribal disputes have and always will happen, but never will the slaughter approach that wrought by the west upon the indigenous peoples around the world.
So, anyway, how's Liverpool?

Yes, I understand what you mean.
Still 3 millions people killed in the Democratic Republic of Congo is bigger than a tribal dispute, but i thik we understood one each other.
Liverpool's warm and nice, even if I'm having hard life trying to find a local charity to host a group of Algerian children, sons and daughters of people "disappeared" during the recent Algerian war...

Chewdog

darkcrow wrote:

i dont really think you can generalise... that is like saying everyone with a beard is a terrorist. or any man who wears pink is gay.

Holy shit, i saw 3 bearded men today!

Does anyone think there is a race that isn't racist?

miskin

hhmmmmm... i dont know about that statement.

i think to a certain degree its true. if you are not a jew, supposedly you will not get into heaven. they cannot marry anyone whos not jewish. blah blah blah.

however some eastern european countries have worse....

Puck78

miskin wrote:

if you are not a jew, supposedly you will not get into heaven. they cannot marry anyone whos not jewish. blah blah blah.

about the first statement: for catholics (just one example) is the same.
the second statement is false

jsand

miskin wrote:

hhmmmmm... i dont know about that statement.

i think to a certain degree its true. if you are not a jew, supposedly you will not get into heaven. they cannot marry anyone whos not jewish. blah blah blah.

however some eastern european countries have worse....

Racist or ignorant...not sure which one you are. Here's food for thought: Jews don't believe in a heaven or hell.

danmac

Puck78 wrote:

Yes, I understand what you mean.
Still 3 millions people killed in the Democratic Republic of Congo is bigger than a tribal dispute, but i thik we understood one each other.
Liverpool's warm and nice, even if I'm having hard life trying to find a local charity to host a group of Algerian children, sons and daughters of people "disappeared" during the recent Algerian war...

The Congo is being fought over by the surrounding nations, and the clans inside Congo itself, sponsored by Western resource and mining companies. Itis the biggest travesty of non-justice we have seen over the last decade. If there was Oil there, maybe the media would have been more involved???

Shame about the Algerian family, the people of Liverpool are a great people, hospitable, friendly, warm, but also amongst the economocially poorest in the country. Probably why its hard to find a local charity. Maybe Manchester could be a better hope? Its bigger, more varied population, I dont know.
Good luck with that.

danmac

jsand wrote:

Racist or ignorant...not sure which one you are. Here's food for thought: Jews don't believe in a heaven or hell.

Oh, really?

What is Zion?

What is 'the promised land'?

What are Gehenna and Gan Eden ?

You have to be the least informed person on this board.

ForBetterOrForWorse

Milestone wrote:

Well, considering they aren't allowed to marry outside their own group because it will contaminate the bloodline.....sounds pretty racist to me.

what the hell is this world coming to... that's one I never heard before

rebornFixer

ForBetterOrForWorse wrote:

what the hell is this world coming to... that's one I never heard before

Yeah, I am trying to decide if the original statement that inspired this post or that one is more ignorant .. Hmmm ...

ryan198

decides2dream wrote:

exactly.
no one group corners the market on being racist, ageist, sexist, etc. vast, generalized statements just don't work.

I agree and disagree...clearly it seems that many groups of people have racist, sexist, etc. views, but the group(s) in power have the ability to make their -ist beliefs seem 'normal' or 'right' and that I think is more dangerous than a person from a minority group who's group's general power does not shape policy.

ryan198

ForBetterOrForWorse wrote:

what the hell is this world coming to... that's one I never heard before

you've never heard of that before? i went to ithaca college which has a significant jewish population, and many of my friends were jewish. some were fine with dating outside of "their bloodline", however, my g/f's best friend was not allowed to.

Ahnimus

I think you guys take this racism thing too far. If you says "All KKK hate black people", is that a form of prejudice? Is it possible that not all KKK hate black people, I realize that is what they say and practice, but jews constantly label people anti-semites and racist, so isn't it the same thing.

Generalization occurs when a group of people with the same beliefs get together. They are generalizing, not me. I am identifying a self-proclaimed group and pointing out their self-indoctrined bias. It's not racism.

Of course taking one of my statements out of context could make all that unkown. It's just assumed then that I am being racist.

jsand

Ahnimus wrote:

I am identifying a self-proclaimed group and pointing out their self-indoctrined bias. It's not racism.

So, in summation, you are generalizing about an entire group of people based on their religion. It's racism, pure and simple. Nice try though.

Ahnimus

jsand wrote:

So, in summation, you are generalizing about an entire group of people based on their religion. It's racism, pure and simple. Nice try though.

Dude, you can't say "We are jews and this is what jews stand for" and then get upset when someone else says it that's not a jew.