"Above all Jews are the most racist people on the planet."

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    IndianSummer wrote:
    the difference here is that the new world never ever belonged to the europeans, while israelis/jews/hebrews ALWAYS lived in the land of cannan (israel and judea) till they were thrown out by nebuchadnezzar the babylonian (only to be allowed to return to jerusalem by the persian king, cyrus the great after cyrus beat the babylonians) and then again thrown out by the romans - which formed the diaspora as we know it today.

    the formation of israel atones for a crime (the crime of the romans of throwing the jews out of their own land and the crime of 1000s of pogroms and finally the holocaust) - where as the formation of the new world on the back of genocides and small pox infected blankets is ITSELF the crime.

    Two wrongs don't make a right.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    shiraz wrote:
    so do many palestinians...don't be a demagogue, ok?

    Difference being it's their land.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • IndianSummer
    IndianSummer Posts: 854
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Two wrongs don't make a right.
    the formation of israel wasnt wrong at all. that would be the formation of the new world and the near wiping out of the people of 3 continents.
    I have faced it, A life wasted...

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  • shiraz
    shiraz Posts: 528
    Ahnimus wrote:
    "defensive"?

    Ok, when I criticise Judaism or Israel and I am called a racist, that is defensive, then I defend myself against claims that I am racist. Look, I know Jews are really smart, so stop trying to confuse me!

    Look, my english is not that good so I may not be clear enough. I meant that too many real cases of Anti-Semitism & Neo-Anti-Semitism can stress the organization till the point they'll start thinking almost every criticism against jews / Israel is wrong.

    I think this kind of thinking only brings more damage and even creates more real Anti-Semitism.
  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    What's with all the complaining now? Jeez... you know, your brother is a doctor.. What, you spend all of your time on this damn internet? When are you going to get married eh?
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  • jeddeth
    jeddeth Posts: 93
    Hey Ahnimus, you sound like a real racist, anti-semetic asshole.

    There is a huge difference between the adl who uses their freedom of speech to stand up for the rights and beliefs of a people who have be intolerated, abused, and enslaved for thousands of years. They are not a terrorist organization and they, like all jews, do not practice racism against arabs. They fight against terrorists and anti-semites.

    The facts are that 6 million jews died in the holocaust and jews are encouraged to marry other jews as part of a moral responsibility to replenish some of that staggering loss. Not in any way because jews are racist.

    You are throwing around untrue acusations and you should be embarrassed for yourself.
    Things change. They wont change unless you make them. The best way to change something you don't like, is to change yourself. So if you feel like you have a piece of duct tape on your mouth and you can't escape, take it off, speak up, speak your mind, shout it out, let 'em hear ya! -EV
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    jsand wrote:
    How many other Pearl Jam fans think this way?

    This was posted by Animhus.

    Whereas the statement that inspired this thread is indeed insanely ridiculous and foolish, I must also, once again, frown on calling out another poster in an effort to attack them. I just think it is wrong. Again, i'm not defending the statement. Its hideous. But using a statement from one thread, calling the poster out by name, and attempting to make them an object of ridicule, is, well, not so pretty either IMO.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • shiraz
    shiraz Posts: 528
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Difference being it's their land.

    doesn't matter, armed civilians is wrong and illegal - there's no such thing as a M16 license, this is not the US :-) (-:
  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    If anyone here is going to brand the ADL as a racist organization, I have to ask:

    Would you do the same with the NAACP?
  • jeddeth
    jeddeth Posts: 93
    shiraz wrote:
    doesn't matter, armed civilians is wrong and illegal - there's no such thing as a M16 license, this is not the US :-) (-:

    Difference being that before 1947 there was no such thing as a Palestinian

    After the Egyptian period, the area split into two parts, the southern part became the Kingdom of Judah and the northern part the Kingdom of Israel.

    The term "Palestine" comes from the word Philistine, the name of an ethnic group which lived in the southern coast of the region. The Philistines disappeared as a distinct group by the Assyrian period.

    The area was historically inhabited and ruled by Jews, Greeks, Romans, Persians, never Philistinians / Palestinians...
    Things change. They wont change unless you make them. The best way to change something you don't like, is to change yourself. So if you feel like you have a piece of duct tape on your mouth and you can't escape, take it off, speak up, speak your mind, shout it out, let 'em hear ya! -EV
  • binauralsounds
    binauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    jeddeth wrote:
    Difference being that before 1947 there was no such thing as a Palestinian

    After the Egyptian period, the area split into two parts, the southern part became the Kingdom of Judah and the northern part the Kingdom of Israel.

    The term "Palestine" comes from the word Philistine, the name of an ethnic group which lived in the southern coast of the region. The Philistines disappeared as a distinct group by the Assyrian period.

    The area was historically inhabited and ruled by Jews, Greeks, Romans, Persians, never Philistinians / Palestinians...

    Absolutely right!!!
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    cornnifer wrote:
    Whereas the statement that inspired this thread is indeed insanely ridiculous and foolish, I must also, once again, frown on calling out another poster in an effort to attack them. I just think it is wrong. Again, i'm not defending the statement. Its hideous. But using a statement from one thread, calling the poster out by name, and attempting to make them an object of ridicule, is, well, not so pretty either IMO.

    He risked becoming an object of ridicule the second he clicked "submit" on the above mentioned " ridiculous and foolish" ( you say foolish, we say racist) statement.
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  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    PaperPlates wrote:
    He risked becoming an object of ridicule the second he clicked "submit" on the above mentioned " ridiculous and foolish" ( you say foolish, we say racist) statement.

    I agree. I'm not defending the statement. I've had run ins with this particular poster myself. Deal with the statement within the boundaries of the thread it was made in. Tear him apart. I don't care. But starting a new thread and calling another poster out by name is weak.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Wow, let me just say wow.

    Who knew that so many of you were so judgmental and ignorant. Hey, I'm not trying to make enemies here, but clearly criticism of Judaism and Israel is wrong, not!

    Don't fear the ADL, they can only have me sentenced for 2 years in jail.

    The ADL is not what you think it is, and if you do some research into it and spend some time on their site, you will see their true colours. The same applies to Israel.

    Personally I don't care where the term Palestine came from, it's rather irrelevant to the fact that Arabs calling themselves Palestinians occupied the land of Palestine and was promised it by the Brittish empire long before it was given to the Zionists. You know, goths were originally a western germanic group that killed christians, not the black wearing youth of modern day.

    Nothing I've said is any more racist than what Jsand or Shiraz has said about non-Jews being racist. That's a pretty broad generalization if someone is just being critical of Judaism and Israel. I hope someday you people can understand this, it's the ultimate hipocracy. The epitome of racism is a negative generalization of a race or nationality.

    An example of a racist statement "All Jews are money loving theives"
    An example of a critical statement "In judaism it is only ok to commit usury if the victim is not a Jew, this I think is wrong."
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  • sourdough
    sourdough Posts: 579
    can someone clarify a rumour for me? I've been told that at Israeli airports, there are seperate lines for Jews, Arabs and "others". Fact or fiction?
  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    Ahnimus wrote:
    The marriage issue is a part of Judaism, I don't think it's necissarily law, but widely practiced. It's also written in the Talmud that if a Goy has any part in the wine making process that the wine is tainted and should not be consumed by a Jew.


    It is practiced about as widely by hardliners of any religion.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Racism is for idiots....
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    Milestone wrote:
    Well, considering they aren't allowed to marry outside their own group because it will contaminate the bloodline.....sounds pretty racist to me.

    We are "allowed" to marry whomever we want..........those who prefer marrying in the religion are far from racist.......get the facts straight before you make sweeping generalizations.

    making ignorant sweeping statements about a religion makes you a racist.
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Thanks for bringing this issue to the forefront.

    If you visit http://www.adl.org and spend some time reading thier view, you can clearly see they are racist towards arabs. The whole organization, called "The Anti-defamation League" was created to "Protect Jews from Anti-Semitism" it claims to protect Homosexuals and Women aswell. However, what it really does is label people anti-semites, it labels people that are critical of judaism or Israel. Which isn't really racism, it's criticism. There is a big difference between holocaust revisionism and the nazis that pulled the switch on the gas chambers. One is a critic and the other is a racist.

    So what has happened? The ADL and many Jews like Jsand, declare that any non-Jew that fails to support Judaism or is critical of Jews and Israel is an anti-semite. Thus further drawing the distinction between Jews (God's Chosen) and Goyyim (non-Jews/Beasts). It's perfectly acceptable to these people to criticise Islam and the Arabs.

    You are so ignorant....you are citing a radical group's beliefs

    I am sure you can find a radical group in every religion or race.

    How can anyone take you seriously if all you do is cite extreme sources.
  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    making ignorant sweeping statements about a religion makes you a racist.

    Exactly. It is not legitimate criticism.

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