why did they attack us?

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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Coming back to life wrote:
    I said I would like to know why he's racist - not he's not.

    Sorry I misunderstood your post. I'm a racist because Byrnzie can't come up with anything to dispute what I said so it's easier for him to just resort to personal attacks. It's his modus operandi.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    mammasan wrote:
    So you dispute the point that the Muslims who practice this radical militant form of Islam do not teach there children to hate Christians or Jews or even other Muslims who they consider infidels. I'm not stating that all Muslims believe or do as such but those that are willing to fly planes into a building or strap on a explosive laden vest and blow themselves up in the middle of a crowded bus or marketplace certainly do. To take the lives of innocent people is to hate them to the highest degree and that is what these certain Muslims do. Just look at the Madrahs in muslims countries, ie Saudi Arabia, and how they indoctrinate young men even small boys into hating anything that is not Muslim. It is you who is dillusional if you believe otherwise. Of course our actions in the region certainly do not help the situation and it could be argued that our actions can be the cause of such hatred being spread. Of course you wouldn't agree with this because they fanatics can do no wrong. It is all the US' fault isn't it. They are not responsible for their actions but we are. Also thanks for calling me a racist. It means a lot coming from you.
    mammasan wrote:
    They hate us because that is what they are taught from the moment of conception. Many of the oppressive corrupt regimes in Muslim countries, ie. Saudi Arabia, spend a lot of money building religious schools to indoctrinate the poor young citizens of said country into this militant extremist form of Islam.

    You paint with a pretty wide brush. Who is this 'they' that you speak of? Your first post didn't limit your 'they' to just radical Muslims, but simply stated that 'they' hate us. Seemed like you were referring to anybody who happened to hail from the Middle East. Hence my use of the words 'conjecture' and 'racist'.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    mammasan wrote:
    Sorry I misunderstood your post. I'm a racist because Byrnzie can't come up with anything to dispute what I said so it's easier for him to just resort to personal attacks. It's his modus operandi.

    And you can't come up with anything to support what you said either. Your original post was just a load of half-baked racist twaddle.
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    Joe2TheRevenge wrote:

    i think the terrorists really do hate Liberty and Freedom. They only like Nuculer weapons and that's it.

    This statements funny because you really think you are free. Take a look around you haven't been truly free for a long time.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I'd like to hear why he thinks he's right. How about he provide some evidence to support his statements? Or would you then accuse him of engaging in a cut and paste frenzy?

    http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=1627

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrasah

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/06/nschools306.xml

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article31255.ece
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    spiral out wrote:
    This statements funny because you really think you are free. Take a look around you haven't been truly free for a long time.

    whats really funny is this statement. I'm free to do whatever I want, such as make posts on a american message board or stand on the street corner with a loud speaker saying.....


    bush is an asshole or jesus christ should be sodomized.



    can you in pakistan? Iran? syria? (replacing bush with their president and jesus with allah)
  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    slightofjeff wrote:
    You ever see that Family Guy where the suicide bomber gets to heaven, and his virgins are actually male geeks watching Star Trek and playing Dungeons and Dragons and shit? Man, that was hilarious.

    How about when Osama is making a video tape to send to America and he can't stop laughing.

    "And look at this guy! He called in sick to a suicide bombing! Who calls in sick to a suicide bombing? He had a note...."
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    You think a man in a cave could get Norad to stand down?
  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    Nevermind wrote:
    You think a man in a cave could get Norad to stand down?

    Is that Borat's brother?
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  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    jlew24asu wrote:
    whats really funny is this statement. I'm free to do whatever I want, such as make posts on a american message board or stand on the street corner with a loud speaker saying.....


    bush is an asshole or jesus christ should be sodomized.



    can you in pakistan? Iran? syria? (replacing bush with their president and jesus with allah)

    If free speech is limited to a "zone" then it isn't free speech at all!
    Think about that a little.
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Danimal wrote:
    How about when Osama is making a video tape to send to America and he can't stop laughing.

    "And look at this guy! He called in sick to a suicide bombing! Who calls in sick to a suicide bombing? He had a note...."

    Yeah, that one was great, too.

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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    spiral out wrote:
    If free speech is limited to a "zone" then it isn't free speech at all!
    Think about that a little.

    what does that mean?

    I can scream "Bush sucks" in a plane. I can scream "Bush sucks" in the rain. I can scream "Bush sucks" in a boat. I can scream "Bush sucks" with a goat. I can scream "Bush sucks" here or there. I can scream "Bush sucks" anywhere.

    So I fail to see your point.
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    Danimal wrote:
    Is that Borat's brother?
    http://standdown.net/
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    slightofjeff wrote:
    what does that mean?

    I can scream "Bush sucks" in a plane. I can scream "Bush sucks" in the rain. I can scream "Bush sucks" in a boat. I can scream "Bush sucks" with a goat. I can scream "Bush sucks" here or there. I can scream "Bush sucks" anywhere.

    So I fail to see your point.


    jeez i had a little suessian moment then. :D:D
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    catefrances wrote:
    jeez i had a little suessian moment then. :D:D

    at least someone gets the reference ;)
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    slightofjeff wrote:
    what does that mean?

    I can scream "Bush sucks" in a plane. I can scream "Bush sucks" in the rain. I can scream "Bush sucks" in a boat. I can scream "Bush sucks" with a goat. I can scream "Bush sucks" here or there. I can scream "Bush sucks" anywhere.

    So I fail to see your point.

    Of course you can gather in groups and protest as you like, without getting arrested.

    I fail to see your point.
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    spiral out wrote:
    Of course you can gather in groups and protest as you like, without getting arrested.

    I fail to see your point.

    something about freedom ...
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    slightofjeff wrote:
    at least someone gets the reference ;)


    of course i did. i did of course. watch them fall from their high horse. :D
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    spiral out wrote:
    If free speech is limited to a "zone" then it isn't free speech at all!
    Think about that a little.

    is that all you have? like I said, I dont need to go into a free speech zone. I can stand in the middle of downtown chicago with a loud speaker and say george bush is an asshole.

    these zones you speak of were probably set up in rare occasions to allow the people's right to hold a rally or whatnot. even with freedom, there are rules and responsibilty that need to happen.



    great dodge on my question though. can you do such things in the middle east?
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    jlew24asu wrote:
    is that all you have? like I said, I dont need to go into a free speech zone. I can stand in the middle of downtown chicago with a loud speaker and say george bush is an asshole.

    these zones you speak of were probably set up in rare occasions to allow the people's right to hold a rally or whatnot. even with freedom, there are rules and responsibilty that need to happen.



    great dodge on my question though. can you do such things in the middle east?

    Go stand in downtown Chicago then and do exactly that for a couple of hours and report back here on what happens, don't forget the proof though. Maybe get a work colleague of yours to film it for proof.

    what's the middle east got to do with anything.
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