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yokeyoke Posts: 1,440
edited March 2007 in A Moving Train
http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=348792007




Its a good thing that this is a religion of peace, I would hate to see what it was if they get violent.
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  • redsdiseaseredsdisease Posts: 147
    yoke wrote:
    Its a good thing that this is a religion of peace, I would hate to see what it was if they get violent.
    Characterizing the whole of the religion of Islam by the actions of one fundamentalist judge makes about as much sense as characterizing the entirety of Christianity by the actions of George W. Bush.
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  • yokeyoke Posts: 1,440
    redsdisease wrote:
    Characterizing the whole of the religion of Islam by the actions of one fundamentalist judge makes about as much sense as characterizing the entirety of Christianity by the actions of George W. Bush.


    you do know that Saudi Arabi is ruled by strict Sharia or Islamic Law.
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  • redsdiseaseredsdisease Posts: 147
    yoke wrote:
    you do know that Saudi Arabi is ruled by strict Sharia or Islamic Law.
    And George W. Bush claims that he is ruled by God, what's your point?
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    It's just a bunch of backward people. backward government. I'm happy the US does not support them (Saudi Arabia) in anyway.
  • yokeyoke Posts: 1,440
    I wish the US didn't support them, but we do. They have a lot of oil that we need.
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  • yokeyoke Posts: 1,440
    redsdisease wrote:
    And George W. Bush claims that he is ruled by God, what's your point?



    GW doesn't behead people in the town square in the name of Jesus.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    redsdisease wrote:
    And George W. Bush claims that he is ruled by God, what's your point?

    maybe you should understand the difference between Sharia Law and Christianity before you make such a stupid comment
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    yoke wrote:
    GW doesn't behead people in the town square in the name of Jesus.

    Nah, but he electricuted mentally disabled people in Texas. Different pile of crap, same stink.
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  • redsdiseaseredsdisease Posts: 147
    jlew24asu wrote:
    maybe you should understand the difference between Sharia Law and Christianity before you make such a stupid comment
    I never, ever, claimed that there was any similarity between Sharia law and Christianity. The only correlation I made was that characterizing an entire religion by one judge's interpretation of the Sharia law, which is by no means uniform and is, in fact, open to interpretation, is just as stupid as characterizing the entire religion of Christianity as having the same views as George Bush.
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Nah, but he electricuted mentally disabled people in Texas. Different pile of crap, same stink.

    Yeah but that killing is done behind closed doors right? the stink is contained. It's contained!
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    yoke wrote:
    I wish the US didn't support them, but we do. They have a lot of oil that we need.

    By supporting them, it's supporting their actions IMO.
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  • redsdiseaseredsdisease Posts: 147
    keeponrockin wrote:
    By supporting them, it's supporting their actions IMO.
    Word.
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  • PJ_SalukiPJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    MrBrian wrote:
    Yeah but that killing is done behind closed doors right? the stink is contained. It's contained!
    And it usually follows a brutal murder by that mentally challenged person. Not saying it's right -- I don't like the death penalty -- but it's not the same as flogging a woman because she had the nerve to get raped.
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  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    PJ_Saluki wrote:
    And it usually follows a brutal murder by that mentally challenged person. Not saying it's right -- I don't like the death penalty -- but it's not the same as flogging a woman because she had the nerve to get raped.

    Exactly. Im not high on the death penalty by any means, but at least it is, or supposed to be administered to the criminal, not the victim.
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    It's an awful story but you had to turn it into an anti-islam thread, congratulations! I hope you feel good about using this horrible case in your hate campaign against Islam!

    Kudos to you!
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  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    Collin wrote:
    It's an awful story but you had to turn it into an anti-islam thread, congratulations! I hope you feel good about using this horrible case in your hate campaign against Islam!

    Kudos to you!

    How can this not be at least somewhat critical of Islam? This is done in a country ran by Sharia law. How can you possibly talk about this story, without having it in the context of Islam? If this were a case of a random Muslim doing something on his own accord, I would agree with you. This isnt. This is a terrible action called for under Islamic law. If you dont talk about it within a context of Islam, then you arent talking about the whole story. And no, that isnt condemning all Muslims, but it is most definately condemning Sharia law.
  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    This is disgusting.
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  • MilestoneMilestone Posts: 1,140
    redsdisease wrote:
    Characterizing the whole of the religion of Islam by the actions of one fundamentalist judge makes about as much sense as characterizing the entirety of Christianity by the actions of George W. Bush.


    You making excuses for them is worse.
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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    dg1979us wrote:
    How can this not be at least somewhat critical of Islam? This is done in a country ran by Sharia law. How can you possibly talk about this story, without having it in the context of Islam? If this were a case of a random Muslim doing something on his own accord, I would agree with you. This isnt. This is a terrible action called for under Islamic law. If you dont talk about it within a context of Islam, then you arent talking about the whole story. And no, that isnt condemning all Muslims, but it is most definately condemning Sharia law.

    Or at least this interpretation of Sharia law should be condemned.
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Collin wrote:
    It's an awful story but you had to turn it into an anti-islam thread, congratulations! I hope you feel good about using this horrible case in your hate campaign against Islam!

    Kudos to you!
    This isn't one lone Muslim, or some tiny group of fanatics. It's a theocratic government of one of the largest countries in the Muslim world acting according to their interpretation of their sacred texts. I spent a long time googling this yesterday and was unable to find a single instance of a Muslim anywhere being critical of it. The story isn't even being covered by Al Jazeera. There's no getting around it, this does not speak well of their culture.
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    dg1979us wrote:
    How can this not be at least somewhat critical of Islam? This is done in a country ran by Sharia law. How can you possibly talk about this story, without having it in the context of Islam? If this were a case of a random Muslim doing something on his own accord, I would agree with you. This isnt. This is a terrible action called for under Islamic law. If you dont talk about it within a context of Islam, then you arent talking about the whole story. And no, that isnt condemning all Muslims, but it is most definately condemning Sharia law.

    Just to be clear, Saudi Arabia is 1.7% of the Islam world. So I agree with you when you condemn the Sharia law but when a poster posts this story and says this:
    Its a good thing that this is a religion of peace, I would hate to see what it was if they get violent.

    He is condemning a entire religion based on the actions of the government of one country which is only 1.7% of the muslims world.
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  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    Collin wrote:
    Just to be clear, Saudi Arabia is 1.7% of the Islam world. So I agree with you when you condemn the Sharia law but when a poster posts this story and says this:



    He is condemning a entire religion based on the actions of the government of one country which is only 1.7% of the muslims world.


    But like Hippiemom said, shouldnt this type of thing be at the forefront of the Muslim world? And Al jazeera doesnt even cover it because it is such an accepted practice. And no, I am not condemning Muslims on an individual level, but I have no problem condemning Sharia Law and Islam in general. This type of practice is just barbaric, and it seems the more rational Muslims and clerics would show some sort of out rage over it.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    MrBrian wrote:
    Yeah but that killing is done behind closed doors right? the stink is contained. It's contained!

    What difference does it make whether someone is electrocuted, given a lethal injection, or flogged, indoors or outdoors?
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    yoke wrote:
    GW doesn't behead people in the town square in the name of Jesus.

    Maybe he should. I mean, if capital punishment is meant to be a deterrent then why are Americans not executed in full public view? Reeks of hypocrisy to me.
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    dg1979us wrote:
    But like Hippiemom said, shouldnt this type of thing be at the forefront of the Muslim world?
    Yes, in fact I think it should be forefront of the entire world.

    And Al jazeera doesnt even cover it because it is such an accepted practice.
    I don't know why Al-Jazeera isn't covering it.
    And no, I am not condemning Muslims on an individual level, but I have no problem condemning Sharia Law and Islam in general.
    I can understand condemning Sharia Law but since you're a Christian I can't understand how you can condemn Islam?
    This type of practice is just barbaric, and it seems the more rational Muslims and clerics would show some sort of out rage over it.

    I think there are plenty of Muslims who find this outrageous.
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    yoke wrote:
    http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=348792007




    Its a good thing that this is a religion of peace, I would hate to see what it was if they get violent.




    Supposedly they got violent on 911. Where were you? And to boot your government did a whole lot of nothing to the country where most, if not all the bad boogie men came from. You comment is amusing to say the least about the religion.
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  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    Collin wrote:
    Yes, in fact I think it should be forefront of the entire world.


    I don't know why Al-Jazeera isn't covering it.


    I can understand condemning Sharia Law but since you're a Christian I can't understand how you can condemn Islam?



    I think there are plenty of Muslims who find this outrageous.


    Who said I was a Christian? I never mentioned or defended Christianity a bit, so not sure what ass you pulled that out of.
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    dg1979us wrote:
    Who said I was a Christian? I never mentioned or defended Christianity a bit, so not sure what ass you pulled that out of.

    I must have you confused with somebody else then, sorry.
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  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    Collin wrote:
    I must have you confused with somebody else then, sorry.

    No problem, it happens.
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