I'm sure the "Laws of the Universe made me do it" defense would hold up in court.
The laws of the universe dictate that undesirable traits be removed from a system, lest that system collapse. Why should a court of law, which exists in the universe, be any different?
The laws of the universe dictate that undesirable traits be removed from a system, lest that system collapse. Why should a court of law, which exists in the universe, be any different?
So no, it wouldn't hold up in court.
OK you lost me at The.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Libertarians certainly believe in courts. Libertarian and anarchist are not synonymous.
But why have courts. In case you missed it we have no will of our own. All of our actions are determined by the Laws of the Universe. We are no longer responsible for what we do or refuse to do.
I think I'll go grab the ass of beautifull woman who sits down the hall. When security and my boss come I'll throw my arms up in the air and say the universe made me do it, just go ask Fransis Crick.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Libertarians certainly believe in courts. Libertarian and anarchist are not synonymous.
How do libertarians have law and protection of property with no taxes to fund a government upholding law and protection of property?
If my life is my property wouldn't the government have to protect my life by :
- not sending me to war
- not giving me a death sentence
- curing me from a potentially mortal disease
How do libertarians have law and protection of property with no taxes to fund a government upholding law and protection of property?
Charity and charge, of course.
If my life is my property wouldn't the government have to protect my life by :
- not sending me to war
Libertarians strongly oppose conscription.
- not giving me a death sentence
Libertarians typically oppose the death penalty.
- curing me from a potentially mortal disease
A "mortal disease" is not a form of social oppression - forcing others to cure you would be. A Libertarian would certainly believe in protecting you from corporations or individuals who willingly infected you with a disease, but would see no obligation to protect you from disease itself.
But why have courts. In case you missed it we have no will of our own. All of our actions are determined by the Laws of the Universe. We are no longer responsible for what we do or refuse to do.
I think I'll go grab the ass of beautifull woman who sits down the hall. When security and my boss come I'll throw my arms up in the air and say the universe made me do it, just go ask Fransis Crick.
While I don't entirely believe in the lack of "free will" - remember, under Anhimus' view, that while the universe might "make" you play grab-ass, it will also "make" the reaction.
While I don't entirely believe in the lack of "free will" - remember, under Anhimus' view, that while the universe might "make" you play grab-ass, it will also "make" the reaction.
So then none of us is held accountable for what we do. I can't be held accountable for grabbing her ass and the security guard can't be held accountable for breaking my arm while he drags me out of the building kicking and screaming.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
While I don't entirely believe in the lack of "free will" - remember, under Anhimus' view, that while the universe might "make" you play grab-ass, it will also "make" the reaction.
so basically it's exactly the same. We willingly won't grab ass to not get in trouble, we'll just do that knowing we didn't choose to do that out of free will but out of the knowledge of a possible reaction.
It's a boring theory really.
So then none of us is held accountable for what we do. I can't be held accountable for grabbing her ass and the security guard can't be held accountable for breaking my arm while he drags me out of the building kicking and screaming.
Basically.
Or, you could look at it another way and say that you're still held accountable - in the same way that a virus is held accountable by an immune system, or an asteroid is held accountable by gravity.
but isn't that a bit risky for the independance of justice?
Charity comes with a high risk of corruption. I'm not saying it doesn't exist in our justice system but the risk would be as high in the system you describe
Libertarians strongly oppose conscription.
Libertarians typically oppose the death penalty.
Yeah I put these before the disease part because I know you oppose those ways.
A "mortal disease" is not a form of social oppression - forcing others to cure you would be. A Libertarian would certainly believe in protecting you from corporations or individuals who willingly infected you with a disease, but would see no obligation to protect you from disease itself.
that seems logical. but what of an emerging disease? who takes the appropriate measures to stop that?
And how does a libertarian system interact with other countries? (I'm sorry I'm completely new to this)
It may be a boring theory, but it's reality and as such we should model our social and political systems around it.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
but isn't that a bit risky for the independance of justice?
No more risky than it is now when a tiny percentage of the population supports the system we have now.
Charity comes with a high risk of corruption. I'm not saying it doesn't exist in our justice system but the risk would be as high in the system you describe
Very much so, yes. Corruption isn't a function of money. Corruption is a function of power and evil. Any system of justice stands a high risk for corruption. Correcting that is done by ensuring checks and balances.
Yeah I put these before the disease part because I know you oppose those ways.
Ok.
that seems logical. but what of an emerging disease? who takes the appropriate measures to stop that?
The market.
And how does a libertarian system interact with other countries? (I'm sorry I'm completely new to this)
Libertarians are typically isolationists. Ron Paul's views on international relations are a very good representation of the typical Libertarian viewpoint.
Or, you could look at it another way and say that you're still held accountable - in the same way that a virus is held accountable by an immune system, or an asteroid is held accountable by gravity.
Of course I am held accountable because I made the decision, knowing the consequences of my actions. That is the flaw in Ahnimus' theory, there is no accountablity for people's actions because you are placing the ownership of those actions on something besides the person actually carrying out the action.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Right... but your reality is a children's book. The carebear stare doesn't work here.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
It seems to work for everyone but you. I can easily throw out a childish insult to discredit your theory but I'll be the adult here.
Oh right. So you have the cure for cancer? Might I ask why so many board members suffer from terminal illnesses if your reality really works? Just fucking carebear stare them, hold hands and hug trees, and all your ailments should be gone, right? Or maybe it just takes your 'cares' away, makes you a careless person. You ignore reality for your comfort.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Oh right. So you have the cure for cancer? Might I ask why so many board members suffer from terminal illnesses if your reality really works? Just fucking carebear stare them, hold hands and hug trees, and all your ailments should be gone, right? Or maybe it just takes your 'cares' away, makes you a careless person. You ignore reality for your comfort.
What the fuck are you talking about. Have you completely gone nuts. What does my belief in free will have to do with the search for a cure for cancer or any other terminal illness. I'll answer that question for you abso-fucking-lutely nothing. Simply because I don't buy your fucking mumbo jumbo doesn't mean I am blind to the problems of the world or that my perception of reality is somehow suger coated with cherries and fucking gum drops.
Let me ask you since you seem to think that you have all the right answers, do you have the cure for cancer?
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
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I'm sure the "Laws of the Universe made me do it" defense would hold up in court.
So no, it wouldn't hold up in court.
OK you lost me at The.
Libertarians certainly believe in courts. Libertarian and anarchist are not synonymous.
in other words, can't I make a passing joke - even if solely for my own amusement?
But why have courts. In case you missed it we have no will of our own. All of our actions are determined by the Laws of the Universe. We are no longer responsible for what we do or refuse to do.
I think I'll go grab the ass of beautifull woman who sits down the hall. When security and my boss come I'll throw my arms up in the air and say the universe made me do it, just go ask Fransis Crick.
How do libertarians have law and protection of property with no taxes to fund a government upholding law and protection of property?
If my life is my property wouldn't the government have to protect my life by :
- not sending me to war
- not giving me a death sentence
- curing me from a potentially mortal disease
They aren't, outside theory. Libertarians typically support the use of force in retaliation to aggressive acts.
Of course
It's not my fault. The universe prevents me from defining it.
Charity and charge, of course.
Libertarians strongly oppose conscription.
Libertarians typically oppose the death penalty.
A "mortal disease" is not a form of social oppression - forcing others to cure you would be. A Libertarian would certainly believe in protecting you from corporations or individuals who willingly infected you with a disease, but would see no obligation to protect you from disease itself.
So then none of us is held accountable for what we do. I can't be held accountable for grabbing her ass and the security guard can't be held accountable for breaking my arm while he drags me out of the building kicking and screaming.
It's a boring theory really.
Or, you could look at it another way and say that you're still held accountable - in the same way that a virus is held accountable by an immune system, or an asteroid is held accountable by gravity.
I think coma inducing is a more acurate term.
Charity comes with a high risk of corruption. I'm not saying it doesn't exist in our justice system but the risk would be as high in the system you describe
Yeah I put these before the disease part because I know you oppose those ways. that seems logical. but what of an emerging disease? who takes the appropriate measures to stop that?
And how does a libertarian system interact with other countries? (I'm sorry I'm completely new to this)
It may be a boring theory, but it's reality and as such we should model our social and political systems around it.
No more risky than it is now when a tiny percentage of the population supports the system we have now.
Very much so, yes. Corruption isn't a function of money. Corruption is a function of power and evil. Any system of justice stands a high risk for corruption. Correcting that is done by ensuring checks and balances.
Ok.
The market.
Libertarians are typically isolationists. Ron Paul's views on international relations are a very good representation of the typical Libertarian viewpoint.
Of course I am held accountable because I made the decision, knowing the consequences of my actions. That is the flaw in Ahnimus' theory, there is no accountablity for people's actions because you are placing the ownership of those actions on something besides the person actually carrying out the action.
Your reality, not mine.
For what purpose?
Right... but your reality is a children's book. The carebear stare doesn't work here.
Morality
It seems to work for everyone but you. I can easily throw out a childish insult to discredit your theory but I'll be the adult here.
Oh right. So you have the cure for cancer? Might I ask why so many board members suffer from terminal illnesses if your reality really works? Just fucking carebear stare them, hold hands and hug trees, and all your ailments should be gone, right? Or maybe it just takes your 'cares' away, makes you a careless person. You ignore reality for your comfort.
What is that?
A human social construct
What the fuck are you talking about. Have you completely gone nuts. What does my belief in free will have to do with the search for a cure for cancer or any other terminal illness. I'll answer that question for you abso-fucking-lutely nothing. Simply because I don't buy your fucking mumbo jumbo doesn't mean I am blind to the problems of the world or that my perception of reality is somehow suger coated with cherries and fucking gum drops.
Let me ask you since you seem to think that you have all the right answers, do you have the cure for cancer?