Palin's Performance...

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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    PEPPER wrote:
    Just wish credit was given where credit is due...but whatever




    I would argue with you but since you are pretty biased whats the point

    Raise the white flag Obama

    Both parties do it. Both campaigns do it. Are you as equally disappointed with the McCain campaign for doing it?
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Enkidu
    Enkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    I watched the beginning and then went to the Sigur Ros concert. From the clips I've seen and what I've read, it seems like she did better than people thought. Not as stupid and clueless as she's been lately.

    That being said - this "gosh, darn, oh, shucks, I'm a small town middle class hockey mom" thing makes me want to puke. But like somebody else posted, that "I'm just like you" worked for Bush.

    And can somebody explain the "Joe Sixpack" thing? Am I missing something? Do people want want to elect Joe Sixpack?
  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    Based on the criteria of the question, I give her 4. Assuming a 3 out of 5 would have matched expectations, then who would go below 3?

    Forgetting expectations, I give her a 2 or maybe 2.5. Not as shaky as I thought she'd be, but not too much to say either.
    I cannot come up with a new sig till I get this egg off my face.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Some Americans look at SP like this toon....John McCain's Fireside Chat.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    PEPPER wrote:
    I actually am disappointed in McCain for also doing it...but for what it’s worth McCain did congratulate him on the Denver speech...and in reality I am disappointed in a how McCain is running this campaign in general, but I will still vote for him because I agree with him and Palin on a lot of issues.

    If you don't mind me asking, why are you going to vote for Obama?
    What has he said makes you want to give him your vote?
    Since I cannot sway any of you...can you sway me?

    Well to answer your question I am not voting for Obama. I'm not voting for McCain either. I believe that neither candidate's policies are good for America. I'm not here to sway your vote one way or the other. You vote for who you believe to be the best candidate. What I do try to do here is inform and share information with others on important issues. I don't care who an individual votes for I just hope that they are making an informed decision. I'm just tired of seeing and hearing the American electorate supporting the worst possible candidates because of a lack information. This election may be one of the most important in our lifetime and to see people basing their decision on half truths and lies is unacceptable.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • QuestionAuthority
    QuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    saveuplife wrote:
    Clearly, you must've had very high expectations for her. Remember the question is based on your prior expectations and whether she met them. I know you don't agree with her politically, but I'm not asking about that... it's more of a style question than substance.... and this is based on expectations.

    Personally, I thought she'd hold her own... but, I was impressed by how she answered questions and honestly dodged questions. I think she did a good job relative to what I thought she would do. My score is a 4 out of 5.


    Jeez.. what a suprise you feel this way.. please tell ~ is there nothing you will not defend this woman about? You truly seem to be her greatest fan since she was announced five weeks ago.. I find it honestly mind boggling.

    Bascially you want us to answer the type of style she gave off her rehearsed answers to and forget the substance.. that ridiculous!

    You were happy with how she answered questions? What did she answer? You are totally right that she dodged questions. She did that well enough. What I find amazing is that we are basically giving her props for not screwing up.. is this really what we have come to?

    I can be open minded enough and FAIR and say she stood her sarcastic filled, mocking ground. She had no horrendous moments. Hip hip hooray! I will be honest and say I wished she had a tourettes type moment and uttered something horrendous.. but that would have been just for my own personal entertainment.

    I thought she got a C+ on her end of term final.. but also.. have been wondering.. she has been wearing her hair down alot.. perfect place to hide a wire for her earpiece!!!
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  • anotherclone
    anotherclone Posts: 1,688
    I give her a 3. She was able to convey all the McCain talking points. I'm not giving her more because she really did seem to lack substance on some answers. She seemed to blow off the question and just say whatever the hell she felt like.

    And before anyone gets in a lather, "yes" I realize all politicians do that. :p
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    mammasan wrote:
    Well to answer your question I am not voting for Obama. I'm not voting for McCain either. I believe that neither candidate's policies are good for America. I'm not here to sway your vote one way or the other. You vote for who you believe to be the best candidate. What I do try to do here is inform and share information with others on important issues. I don't care who an individual votes for I just hope that they are making an informed decision. I'm just tired of seeing and hearing the American electorate supporting the worst possible candidates because of a lack information. This election may be one of the most important in our lifetime and to see people basing their decision on half truths and lies is unacceptable.


    truth
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    PEPPER wrote:
    But let’s open it up to Obama supporters, why are you voting for Obama to be the next president?
    I might get healtcare. He might end the war in Iraq. He probably won't invade Iran. He will fund education. to name a few
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    PEPPER wrote:
    Well, I commend you for your efforts...I wish more people would approach the election with your thoughts. Sadly we only get 2 people to vote for each and every election...I know we can always vote for the 3rd party...but lets be serious, it is throwing away a vote, so like most people they vote the less of two evils...are in some cases, what is the "in" thing to do like a person here at my work

    But let’s open it up to Obama supporters, why are you voting for Obama to be the next president?

    How is voting 3rd party throwing away my vote? How many people out there do you think feel that neither of these candidates is a good choice? What do you think would happen if every single one of those voters decided to vote 3rd Party? It would send a message to the washington don't you think.

    It's not about winning because guess what, we the people never win. We always loose regardless of what party gets into the Oval office. It's about sending the Republicans and the Democrats a message that we are no longer going to sit back and watch them ruin our country, trample the Constitution, spend our tax dollars with impunity and undertake actions that run counter to the will and benefit of the people of this country. Only once we have done that will we win and voting for the lesser of two evils will not get us any closer to that goal.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    PEPPER wrote:
    What third party candidate are you voting for if you don't mind me asking? And why?

    I'm planning on writing in Ron Paul's name, I know he is a Republican. I feel that he offers the best ideas for this country. I don't agree with all of his ideas but as far as Constitutional rights, reduction in spending and reduction in the size and scope of the federal government, interventionist foreign policy and fixing our economy I am in 100% agreement with him. I also admire his honesty, something that all four candidates on the major party ballots lack. He sticks to his beliefs even though they may not be popular. He actually want to hand back power to the people where it belongs, not in the hands of lobbiests and special interest groups.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    PEPPER wrote:



    I would argue with you but since you are pretty biased whats the point

    Raise the white flag Obama

    you sound like palin....go figure...:rolleyes:
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    PEPPER wrote:
    Sounds like a great guy, I am sorry I know very little about him (even though he sounds appealing)...why was he not invited to the Republican debates if he is a republican?

    He was in attendance during the Republican Primary debates but was largly ignored by the mainstream media.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    SoonForgotten2 wrote:
    Pepper calling the kettle black.

    And it looks like McCain's the one waving the white flag, in Michigan at least.

    yeah, how 'bout it...Pepper thinks she's not biased....

    funny stuff...
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,821
    Finally, Palin's mispronunciation of the word "nuclear" drew an atomic level of searches for "nuclear vs. nucular." Remember: when in doubt, just sound it out.

    CLASSIC ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mammasan wrote:
    How is voting 3rd party throwing away my vote? How many people out there do you think feel that neither of these candidates is a good choice? What do you think would happen if every single one of those voters decided to vote 3rd Party? It would send a message to the washington don't you think.

    It's not about winning because guess what, we the people never win. We always loose regardless of what party gets into the Oval office. It's about sending the Republicans and the Democrats a message that we are no longer going to sit back and watch them ruin our country, trample the Constitution, spend our tax dollars with impunity and undertake actions that run counter to the will and benefit of the people of this country. Only once we have done that will we win and voting for the lesser of two evils will not get us any closer to that goal.
    Very good post, i really feel sorry for you guys and your 2 party system, not alot of choices. I like alot of what Ron Paul says but i am Canadian and i think Universal Health care is a fundamental right, so he scares me also. Great foreign policy though.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    PEPPER wrote:
    Ok peeps...why is Obama such a great choice?

    Well since no one seems to be responding I will play Devil's Advocate. This is just my take on why people would vote for him and not my actually belief but Obama does represent an opportunity for change. Whether McCain supports want to admit it or not he has fallen in line with Bush and Republican policy over 90% of the time and that, to me, does not make him a Maverick. Obama also represents a departure from the failed foreign policy of the current administration which has shown to be ineffective. His fiscal policy is sounder that McCain's, not that I agree with raising taxes even if it's only for the top 5% but if you are not going to reduce spending then you have to increase revenue. McCain's policy is to reduce revenue while leaving spending relatively unchanged. That to me is extremely poor fiscal ideology because it will just increase debt which can lead to further inflation. Obama offers a better energy policy than McCain and I do have to admit that I like Obama's idea for creating a "green" industry. I believe that it will help ween us off of our dependency on foreign oil and help create a strong foundation for our economy.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Enkidu
    Enkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    Obama may not be a great choice, but I believe he's a much much better choice than McCain/Lunkhead. I don't think he'll lead us into another bullshit war. I think he'll help get us out of Iraq. I think he will assemble a better team than the crooks Bush picked (and the idea that "maverick" McCain will pick great people is utterly negated by his VP choice). I think with Obama there is a chance that this country can regain the respect it has lost over the past 8 years. I think there's a better chance for health care reform than with McCain's stupidly silly plan. I'm pro-choice, so that's an issue for me, too.

    (As for calling Palin a lunkhead - sorry, I think she's stupid. And I just saw on Huffington - "Palin Tells Fox News: Couric Annoyed Me." Sheesh.)
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    PEPPER wrote:
    Thats great but it is looking more and more like people do not know why they are voting for Obama...and sadly, they can be compared to the guy I work with
    did you not read the post....why are you going to vote for McCain?
  • stupidcorporatewhore
    stupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
    PEPPER wrote:
    Ok peeps...why is Obama such a great choice?

    I know you are not really asking and that you will disagree with anything I say but.....


    first and foremost, McCain is fucked in the head. If there were a republican choice that was viable but somewhat progressive (Ron Paul or McCain circa 2000), I'd think about it, but there isn't. One of these guys is going to be president, I'm not going to vote for the guy who is fucked in the head so...

    Biden said it best last night. Fairness. The time of the rich is over both corporate and personal, time to pay your fair share. Why? because you can afford it. so pay up.

    an energy plan. It's expensive but I suspect we will look back and say it was worth it. The time of oil is over. infrastructure is expensive. get over it.

    diplomacy first, bomb second. I sincerely believe obama can repair our reputation around the world.

    The supreme court. Want 40 years of Neocon, pro corporate decisions? don't vote obama.

    restoration of the constitution and removal of fear as policy. He's a constitutional scholar, nuff said.

    He's less experienced than he probably should be, but I think he has the capacity to be Bush in reverse. He can assemble the brightest, brilliant most positive minds and use it for good, where bush assembled some of the most brilliant criminal minds to destroy lives here and abroad.

    I don't know if anyone can turn the economy around at this point but I think he knows where we are and where we need to be, it's just a matter of how to get there.

    that's my (oversimplified) answer, more than what I feel I owe you.

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