It's like back in the day when abook was posting regulary mammasan. It's not that no one is responding, it's like how many times do you get sick of saying the same thing, over and over. Daily it would be 'why do you support obama? So people would reply, and then the next day. Why do you support obama? Personally, i got really irked with that, because it was like, ok, why waste my time responding if you are going to ask the same question everytime Obama's name is mentioned. It gets very old. Quickly.
So, for about the hundredth time..
Obama speaks about responsibility, on both sides of the system. He wants government to be able to help those who need it the most. He also wants to be able to provide funds for college, raising children, providing health care to those without it… but he always reminds us that we have to be involved in the process. Under him, if you give back to your community, to the country, to the different service groups like peace and Americorps, if you give your time and effort, then government is going to be there to support you because you freakin’ deserve it. This is not socialism, it’s responsibility. Much more “American”.
The best part is, Obama’s call to service isn’t strictly military. I love that. You mean, I don’t have to join the army to be considered an American. I don’t have to own a gun, don’t have to have slaved my entire life away just to earn the distinction of “salt of the earth” (which is the most condescending bull shit I’ve ever heard).
Obama wants to end this nightmare of war that has cost the lives 100’s of thousands of civilians whose only crime is being born in Iraq. I'm guessing only a small % of those who have died were terrorists. Gut feel, i don't have facts to back this up. There's too many dead and they didn't have terrorists stamped on their head when they were murdered. Makes me sick to my stomach that the Republican Party has succeeded with associating one religion with absolute hatred, that they’ve been able to instil this idea that every single person in the Middle East has a bomb and a gun and a distinct hatred for Americans. Absolutely not true. Under Obama, this shit will end soon.
John McCain makes me feel un-American. Always pandering to the idea that democrats never worked and that everyone in America is some kind of coal miner or steel worker just trying to get by. That’s absolutely not true and It's disgusting when he pulls out middle class buzz-words.
A vote for John McCain is a vote for 100 more years of war. I feel like we will be in a war with Iran and Russia because that’s going to be his answer to the problems they stir up, and because of all this “need” for military presence, there’s going to be a draft which I will beg anyone i know to take up their American right to dodge the hell out of. Fuck going to war. We weren't born to kill or be killed.
Obama’s tax cuts will benefit the bottom 80% of Americans. John McCain’s will benefit the wealthiest 20%. While both McCain and Obama plan to lower taxes for at least 95% of Americans, the Obama tax cuts are greater for those who need it the most. Yes, Obama plans to raise taxes on those who make over $2.5 million a year, but take a look at this data http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.co...-perspectives/ and see that John McCain’s plan cuts more taxes for the wealthiest than it does for the less well off. I don’t know where the McCain campaign got the idea that Obama plans to raise taxes on workers, just the top 1% of Americans.
Palin governs probably the last great wilderness in the western world, and she wants to fuck it over for the last few drops of oil. Unbelievable. John McCain and Sarah Palin support drilling in ANWR, and I absolutely do not. There’s one reason I can’t vote for McCain. Drilling for oil in America is not going to quell the rising price of gas, just destroy parts of the Earth and sections of it’s ecosystem that some people believe are very important to human beings sticking around for a while. He also has said repeatedly that he wants more nuclear power plants (I think 15).
Obama wants to rid us of the same dependence on foreign oil.
Within 10 years save more oil than we currently import from the Middle East and Venezuela combined. He also understands that doing that doesn’t mean we have to bring the oil home. It means changing the way we produce, consume and reuse our energy sources.
Put 1 million Plug-In Hybrid cars — cars that can get up to 150 miles per gallon — on the road by 2015, cars that we will work to make sure are built here in America. Sure, I can understand the desire to rid ourselves of foreign oil, but let’s do that by changing the energy infrastructure. Waaaaay better,as far as I am concerned, than voting for McCain.
McCains old, if anything happens to him, Sarah Palin will position herself to become America's first female president. Awesome . She's anti-abortion, anti enviroment, anti-stem cell research, anti euthanasia, anti gay marriage, a climate change denier and a born again bible believing christian creatonist.
She's opposed to sex education in schools and believes in promoting sexual abstinence among the unmarried. Mmm hmm. Sarah Palin wants to control the way any children i may have, receive sex ed., and wants to take away our reproductive rights so that there are no "choices" to make. Why is it i read post after post of people saying her private life and that of her family should stay removed from politics, but no criticizm from those same people that she should keep her nose out of my private life? So how can she then request that we do not discuss the choices her own family has made? If these are private matters for her family, what gives her the right to think she can control any decision i may make for my family?
She's a warmonger who can't find 'overseas' in the atlas and she's all apple pie and moose burgers. She's a living, breathing caricature, who btw McCain had only met once before
Seriously, if death does befall McCain, this woman could be the freakin president of the US.
There's a lot a stake for me, i have not had children yet. I want something better than this to bring them into. I don't have 'blind faith' that Obama is going to solve all our problems, i am not unrealistic as to what he can and can't do, but i do have hope that with the right people around him, he is the best candidate.
Say i'm wrong, and i'm placing faith and trust in someone that doesn't deserve it, obama gets in, and he continues with Bush doctrine, the conversation in 4 years will be much different. We won't be fooled twice now will we.
Clearly i'm hoping this will not be the case.
great post! Well said, every bit.
Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
Thats great but it is looking more and more like people do not know why they are voting for Obama...and sadly, they can be compared to the guy I work with
From another thread that asked a similar question....
"I'm voting for Obama.
The beginning is that I strongly believe the country may be irrevocably damaged if we have another President similar to George W. Bush. This is not a swipe against McCain; I'm sure he'd be more competent. But nevertheless the policies are remarkably similar, and we can have no more of it. Obama's background I find very appealing as a presidental candidate. As a community organizer he would've learned (as I am doing now) the necessity of building bipartisan coalitions and compromising to achieve objectives. This also shows me that he's actually spent time with people less well-off in our nation, working directly with them to solve problems. He's a constitutional law expert, which I think would be a lovely change of pace.
On the issues we seem to agree mightily; I agree with him that health care should be made affordable by the U.S. Government, and there should be a plan for everyone to buy into, but that you should not force people to change from their private coverage if you don't want to. I agree with him on the two main Homeland Security issues, that our ports need to be radically overhauled to be able to detect dangerous material, and that the most dangerous thing we have to work towards preventing is the acqusition of a nuclear/biological weapon on the black market by a terrorist group who then uses it in the U.S. I agree with him that there needs to be more focus on Afghanistan and less on Iraq, and it should not be discounted that he was entirely right about what was going to happen in Iraq in the following five years when most people, including some experts in the highest level of government, were dead wrong. On the biggest foreign policy decision of our time, Obama nailed it, and our sitting president did not.
In terms of energy, which is going to probably be one of the biggest issues, if not the biggest issue facing our country, Obama again gets it right. Energy is connected to everything, foreign policy, economics, etc. Simply opening offshore drilling stations here in America is not the answer; there won't be enough oil, it will take too long to have a positive impact on the price and we won't adjust our economy quick enough. And this is the only time I'll be negative; I just simply don't believe John McCain when he says we'll invest equally in offshore drilling and alternative energy. His record doesn't show it. Obama's record does, and he's right in that we need a new New Deal, one framed upon the basic tenet that our economy needs to afford us leverage when dealing with fundamentalist dictatorships in the Middle East and needs to protect ourselves and our planet. He's got the plans.
Finally, he's inspiring as a leader. This is often dismissed by his critics, but isn't one of the most important things a leader has to do is inspire his or her citizens? I believe that national service will improve drastically under his watch, our reputation in the world will be restored after a dark eight years, and we will be better equipped and better allied in military and diplomatic conflicts with our enemies."
OK, your turn. Prove you actually have some reasoning behind your choices and that you're not just a partisan, because you seem to be accusing everyone else of that right now.
It's like back in the day when abook was posting regulary mammasan. It's not that no one is responding, it's like how many times do you get sick of saying the same thing, over and over. Daily it would be 'why do you support obama? So people would reply, and then the next day. Why do you support obama? Personally, i got really irked with that, because it was like, ok, why waste my time responding if you are going to ask the same question everytime Obama's name is mentioned. It gets very old. Quickly.
So, for about the hundredth time..
Obama speaks about responsibility, on both sides of the system. He wants government to be able to help those who need it the most. He also wants to be able to provide funds for college, raising children, providing health care to those without it… but he always reminds us that we have to be involved in the process. Under him, if you give back to your community, to the country, to the different service groups like peace and Americorps, if you give your time and effort, then government is going to be there to support you because you freakin’ deserve it. This is not socialism, it’s responsibility. Much more “American”.
The best part is, Obama’s call to service isn’t strictly military. I love that. You mean, I don’t have to join the army to be considered an American. I don’t have to own a gun, don’t have to have slaved my entire life away just to earn the distinction of “salt of the earth” (which is the most condescending bull shit I’ve ever heard).
Obama wants to end this nightmare of war that has cost the lives 100’s of thousands of civilians whose only crime is being born in Iraq. I'm guessing only a small % of those who have died were terrorists. Gut feel, i don't have facts to back this up. There's too many dead and they didn't have terrorists stamped on their head when they were murdered. Makes me sick to my stomach that the Republican Party has succeeded with associating one religion with absolute hatred, that they’ve been able to instil this idea that every single person in the Middle East has a bomb and a gun and a distinct hatred for Americans. Absolutely not true. Under Obama, this shit will end soon.
John McCain makes me feel un-American. Always pandering to the idea that democrats never worked and that everyone in America is some kind of coal miner or steel worker just trying to get by. That’s absolutely not true and It's disgusting when he pulls out middle class buzz-words.
A vote for John McCain is a vote for 100 more years of war. I feel like we will be in a war with Iran and Russia because that’s going to be his answer to the problems they stir up, and because of all this “need” for military presence, there’s going to be a draft which I will beg anyone i know to take up their American right to dodge the hell out of. Fuck going to war. We weren't born to kill or be killed.
Obama’s tax cuts will benefit the bottom 80% of Americans. John McCain’s will benefit the wealthiest 20%. While both McCain and Obama plan to lower taxes for at least 95% of Americans, the Obama tax cuts are greater for those who need it the most. Yes, Obama plans to raise taxes on those who make over $2.5 million a year, but take a look at this data http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.co...-perspectives/ and see that John McCain’s plan cuts more taxes for the wealthiest than it does for the less well off. I don’t know where the McCain campaign got the idea that Obama plans to raise taxes on workers, just the top 1% of Americans.
Palin governs probably the last great wilderness in the western world, and she wants to fuck it over for the last few drops of oil. Unbelievable. John McCain and Sarah Palin support drilling in ANWR, and I absolutely do not. There’s one reason I can’t vote for McCain. Drilling for oil in America is not going to quell the rising price of gas, just destroy parts of the Earth and sections of it’s ecosystem that some people believe are very important to human beings sticking around for a while. He also has said repeatedly that he wants more nuclear power plants (I think 15).
Obama wants to rid us of the same dependence on foreign oil.
Within 10 years save more oil than we currently import from the Middle East and Venezuela combined. He also understands that doing that doesn’t mean we have to bring the oil home. It means changing the way we produce, consume and reuse our energy sources.
Put 1 million Plug-In Hybrid cars — cars that can get up to 150 miles per gallon — on the road by 2015, cars that we will work to make sure are built here in America. Sure, I can understand the desire to rid ourselves of foreign oil, but let’s do that by changing the energy infrastructure. Waaaaay better,as far as I am concerned, than voting for McCain.
McCains old, if anything happens to him, Sarah Palin will position herself to become America's first female president. Awesome . She's anti-abortion, anti enviroment, anti-stem cell research, anti euthanasia, anti gay marriage, a climate change denier and a born again bible believing christian creatonist.
She's opposed to sex education in schools and believes in promoting sexual abstinence among the unmarried. Mmm hmm. Sarah Palin wants to control the way any children i may have, receive sex ed., and wants to take away our reproductive rights so that there are no "choices" to make. Why is it i read post after post of people saying her private life and that of her family should stay removed from politics, but no criticizm from those same people that she should keep her nose out of my private life? So how can she then request that we do not discuss the choices her own family has made? If these are private matters for her family, what gives her the right to think she can control any decision i may make for my family?
She's a warmonger who can't find 'overseas' in the atlas and she's all apple pie and moose burgers. She's a living, breathing caricature, who btw McCain had only met once before
Seriously, if death does befall McCain, this woman could be the freakin president of the US.
There's a lot a stake for me, i have not had children yet. I want something better than this to bring them into. I don't have 'blind faith' that Obama is going to solve all our problems, i am not unrealistic as to what he can and can't do, but i do have hope that with the right people around him, he is the best candidate.
Say i'm wrong, and i'm placing faith and trust in someone that doesn't deserve it, obama gets in, and he continues with Bush doctrine, the conversation in 4 years will be much different. We won't be fooled twice now will we.
Thats great but it is looking more and more like people do not know why they are voting for Obama...and sadly, they can be compared to the guy I work with
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That was so damm funny tonight!!
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From another thread that asked a similar question....
"I'm voting for Obama.
The beginning is that I strongly believe the country may be irrevocably damaged if we have another President similar to George W. Bush. This is not a swipe against McCain; I'm sure he'd be more competent. But nevertheless the policies are remarkably similar, and we can have no more of it. Obama's background I find very appealing as a presidental candidate. As a community organizer he would've learned (as I am doing now) the necessity of building bipartisan coalitions and compromising to achieve objectives. This also shows me that he's actually spent time with people less well-off in our nation, working directly with them to solve problems. He's a constitutional law expert, which I think would be a lovely change of pace.
On the issues we seem to agree mightily; I agree with him that health care should be made affordable by the U.S. Government, and there should be a plan for everyone to buy into, but that you should not force people to change from their private coverage if you don't want to. I agree with him on the two main Homeland Security issues, that our ports need to be radically overhauled to be able to detect dangerous material, and that the most dangerous thing we have to work towards preventing is the acqusition of a nuclear/biological weapon on the black market by a terrorist group who then uses it in the U.S. I agree with him that there needs to be more focus on Afghanistan and less on Iraq, and it should not be discounted that he was entirely right about what was going to happen in Iraq in the following five years when most people, including some experts in the highest level of government, were dead wrong. On the biggest foreign policy decision of our time, Obama nailed it, and our sitting president did not.
In terms of energy, which is going to probably be one of the biggest issues, if not the biggest issue facing our country, Obama again gets it right. Energy is connected to everything, foreign policy, economics, etc. Simply opening offshore drilling stations here in America is not the answer; there won't be enough oil, it will take too long to have a positive impact on the price and we won't adjust our economy quick enough. And this is the only time I'll be negative; I just simply don't believe John McCain when he says we'll invest equally in offshore drilling and alternative energy. His record doesn't show it. Obama's record does, and he's right in that we need a new New Deal, one framed upon the basic tenet that our economy needs to afford us leverage when dealing with fundamentalist dictatorships in the Middle East and needs to protect ourselves and our planet. He's got the plans.
Finally, he's inspiring as a leader. This is often dismissed by his critics, but isn't one of the most important things a leader has to do is inspire his or her citizens? I believe that national service will improve drastically under his watch, our reputation in the world will be restored after a dark eight years, and we will be better equipped and better allied in military and diplomatic conflicts with our enemies."
OK, your turn. Prove you actually have some reasoning behind your choices and that you're not just a partisan, because you seem to be accusing everyone else of that right now.
100% agreed.
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same here. very well said!!
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