Anytime a FIRST occurs... it'll make the news. How much people blow it out of proportion is up to the people.
I will venture to guess that it'll be news when the first Japanese pitcher wins the Cy Young award... or the first woman wins the Indy 500... it's a newsworthy event if it is the first time it happens in the history of the sport.
I don't know why people get bent out of shape because of it... people are proud of their heritage... the Irish... the Italians... what's the big deal?
Just because they happen to be black... why is that any different.
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Bottom line... it is a First. Just like they made a big deal out of Tiger Woods winning the Masters. I don't see a problem here.
racists.....we all are to a certain extent. I think its great that it was mentioned....for many reasons...one of those is cause it upsets so many white boys... (-:
I was watching the end of the football game last night, and the first thing they bring up, is the fact that for the first time in history we now have 2 black coaches going to the superbowl.
Who the fuck cares?
Why does this have to be the first thing brought up after indy won...even tony dungy was caught off guard by this. its the year 2007, this really isnt a big deal.
This isnt a milestone like jackie robinson in baseball or anything...people will do anything to get race into the news.
Well since they're the first it's important, then the 3rd, 4th etc. won't matter much, i don't know why it bother you...
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Can't it simply be that the NFL wants to acknowledge the accomplishments of two bright, motivated, successful African Americans? Think about what's been happening in the league for the last couple of years. Africn american athletes are acting the fool...drugs, murder raps, getting murdered...that kind of thing is bad for the sport.
Would you prefer the public perception that the NFL is just dressed up jail ball, or would you rather show that yo don't have to be an athlete to be a champion? That's what the NFL has done by promoting the Superbowl the way it has. Don't think for a second that the gravity of it is lost on them...or that it's not on the minds of every minority in this country. It gives people hope that they too might be able to accomplish something more than being associated with outdated stereotypes...or even the "gangsta" culture that is glorified in movies and music.
Lets turn it around and look at it another way...rather than "Why are they making it an issue", how about "How could it have taken so long?"
40+ years since the civil rights movement really took hold...and we're just finally getting to a place where this is possible? That is the real indictment.
Lets turn it around and look at it another way...rather than "Why are they making it an issue", how about "How could it have taken so long?"
40+ years since the civil rights movement really took hold...and we're just finally getting to a place where this is possible? That is the real indictment.
I disagree. I can see the support of the first black coach in the national football league; thats a huge milestone and one that should be celebrated.
But making the superbowl has just as much to do with the coach as the team, so why make it center stage?
I disagree. I can see the support of the first black coach in the national football league; thats a huge milestone and one that should be celebrated.
But making the superbowl has just as much to do with the coach as the team, so why make it center stage?
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It's not center stage... it is a footnote. It's PEOPLE who are making a big deal out of it.
Center Stage is Payton Manning and the stigma of being a great player who never won 'The Big Game'... and the extent of his thumb on his throwing hand.
The ethnicity of the coaches is Center Stage on Rush Limbaugh's show. Who gives a fuck what that fat ass has to say about football?
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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It's not center stage... it is a footnote. It's PEOPLE who are making a big deal out of it.
Center Stage is Payton Manning and the stigma of being a great player who never won 'The Big Game'... and the extent of his thumb on his throwing hand.
The ethnicity of the coaches is Center Stage on Rush Limbaugh's show. Who gives a fuck what that fat ass has to say about football?
exactly...this is a guy who tried to discredit donovan mcnabb's talent. what a joke of a man.
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It's not center stage... it is a footnote. It's PEOPLE who are making a big deal out of it.
Center Stage is Payton Manning and the stigma of being a great player who never won 'The Big Game'... and the extent of his thumb on his throwing hand.
The ethnicity of the coaches is Center Stage on Rush Limbaugh's show. Who gives a fuck what that fat ass has to say about football?
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It was brought up by a sports writer to Tony Dungy in the post game interview. It wasn't the first question asked... or the second... it came up as sports writers clammered for answers to whatever question popped into their heads.
The local newscasts I saw (in Los Angeles) went over the highlights of both games and the match-up and noted the precedence of the two black coaches towards the end of their segments before going into golf results... some sports broadcasters even made it the last word before turning it over to the large breasted weather gal.
It was hardly the lead story... therefore, not center stage.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
arguing on the internet in some lame kiddie message group is so utterly retarded...
life wasted...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
It was announced on nbc or whatever station the game was on right after it. like 3 seconds after the whistle blew.
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I watched the game... which was a great game because I seriously didn't think Indy had it in them to overcome the 21-3 halftime defecit and that 1 minute was enough time for Brady to possibly pull it out... I guess I wasn't paying attention too much after that last interception. I was probably in the can... taking a leak.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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I watched the game... which was a great game because I seriously didn't think Indy had it in them to overcome the 21-3 halftime defecit and that 1 minute was enough time for Brady to possibly pull it out... I guess I wasn't paying attention too much after that last interception. I was probably in the can... taking a leak.
Definetly was a great game. I thought peyton was going to choke
Definetly was a great game. I thought peyton was going to choke
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You and me and everyone watching. I'm glad he was able to prove us all wrong... I like the guy. I hope he wins, just to shake that stigma... like John Elway did.
But... that Bears defense... i don't know.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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You and me and everyone watching. I'm glad he was able to prove us all wrong... I like the guy. I hope he wins, just to shake that stigma... like John Elway did.
But... that Bears defense... i don't know.
when manning threw the pick to samuels, i sat, in the car, shaking my head saying, "here we go again." i really like manning, but i've been watching the bears since i was a child, and i'm not sure the bears will have another chance in the near future, but i do believe that this is the first of a couple in the next 5 years for the colts...so, i'm torn on this one.
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You and me and everyone watching. I'm glad he was able to prove us all wrong... I like the guy. I hope he wins, just to shake that stigma... like John Elway did.
But... that Bears defense... i don't know.
I dont think their D is as dominant as it once was.
I dont think their D is as dominant as it once was.
losing mike brown was bigger than anyone could have imagined...he was so good at knowing where the football was...now, i feel, their linebackers have to be a bit more disciplined...which takes away from the recklessness that was so critical for them early in the season.
when manning threw the pick to samuels, i sat, in the car, shaking my head saying, "here we go again." i really like manning, but i've been watching the bears since i was a child, and i'm not sure the bears will have another chance in the near future, but i do believe that this is the first of a couple in the next 5 years for the colts...so, i'm torn on this one.
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I'm the same way... I think I'm going for the Bears on this one. Mostly because i'm an old NFL (as opposed to the old AFL) guy... and that I don't think Grossman can lead the team to a repeat appearance next season. But, Manning and the Colts will definately be back in the playoffs with another opportunity to win.
and yeah... I pretty much wrote off the Colts at halftime, after that interception/touchsown to a veteran playoff team. But, gotta hand it to them Colts... they done good.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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Well since they're the first it's important, then the 3rd, 4th etc. won't matter much, i don't know why it bother you...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
really good. thanks
I disagree. I can see the support of the first black coach in the national football league; thats a huge milestone and one that should be celebrated.
But making the superbowl has just as much to do with the coach as the team, so why make it center stage?
It's not center stage... it is a footnote. It's PEOPLE who are making a big deal out of it.
Center Stage is Payton Manning and the stigma of being a great player who never won 'The Big Game'... and the extent of his thumb on his throwing hand.
The ethnicity of the coaches is Center Stage on Rush Limbaugh's show. Who gives a fuck what that fat ass has to say about football?
Hail, Hail!!!
exactly...this is a guy who tried to discredit donovan mcnabb's talent. what a joke of a man.
from my window to yours
It wasnt on rush that i first heard about this
It was brought up by a sports writer to Tony Dungy in the post game interview. It wasn't the first question asked... or the second... it came up as sports writers clammered for answers to whatever question popped into their heads.
The local newscasts I saw (in Los Angeles) went over the highlights of both games and the match-up and noted the precedence of the two black coaches towards the end of their segments before going into golf results... some sports broadcasters even made it the last word before turning it over to the large breasted weather gal.
It was hardly the lead story... therefore, not center stage.
Hail, Hail!!!
life wasted...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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As long as your a Cubs fan, then things should be OK.
It was announced on nbc or whatever station the game was on right after it. like 3 seconds after the whistle blew.
I watched the game... which was a great game because I seriously didn't think Indy had it in them to overcome the 21-3 halftime defecit and that 1 minute was enough time for Brady to possibly pull it out... I guess I wasn't paying attention too much after that last interception. I was probably in the can... taking a leak.
Hail, Hail!!!
Definetly was a great game. I thought peyton was going to choke
You and me and everyone watching. I'm glad he was able to prove us all wrong... I like the guy. I hope he wins, just to shake that stigma... like John Elway did.
But... that Bears defense... i don't know.
Hail, Hail!!!
when manning threw the pick to samuels, i sat, in the car, shaking my head saying, "here we go again." i really like manning, but i've been watching the bears since i was a child, and i'm not sure the bears will have another chance in the near future, but i do believe that this is the first of a couple in the next 5 years for the colts...so, i'm torn on this one.
from my window to yours
I dont think their D is as dominant as it once was.
losing mike brown was bigger than anyone could have imagined...he was so good at knowing where the football was...now, i feel, their linebackers have to be a bit more disciplined...which takes away from the recklessness that was so critical for them early in the season.
from my window to yours
I'm the same way... I think I'm going for the Bears on this one. Mostly because i'm an old NFL (as opposed to the old AFL) guy... and that I don't think Grossman can lead the team to a repeat appearance next season. But, Manning and the Colts will definately be back in the playoffs with another opportunity to win.
and yeah... I pretty much wrote off the Colts at halftime, after that interception/touchsown to a veteran playoff team. But, gotta hand it to them Colts... they done good.
Hail, Hail!!!