This race crap is absurd

miller8966

I was watching the end of the football game last night, and the first thing they bring up, is the fact that for the first time in history we now have 2 black coaches going to the superbowl.

Who the fuck cares?

Why does this have to be the first thing brought up after indy won...even tony dungy was caught off guard by this. its the year 2007, this really isnt a big deal.

This isnt a milestone like jackie robinson in baseball or anything...people will do anything to get race into the news.

satansbedbugs

Is toney dungey black? thats news to me...

sonicreducer

the way the media made a big deal about that will influence a lot of people in a bunch of different ways,...

i can't imagine why it was such a big deal, so if anyone can think of something logical then fill me in.

im with you here. who cares? the color of that dudes skin has nothing to do with how he helped the colts reach the super bowl.

american

miller8966 wrote:

I was watching the end of the football game last night, and the first thing they bring up, is the fact that for the first time in history we now have 2 black coaches going to the superbowl.

Who the fuck cares?

Why does this have to be the first thing brought up after indy won...even tony dungy was caught off guard by this. its the year 2007, this really isnt a big deal.

This isnt a milestone like jackie robinson in baseball or anything...people will do anything to get race into the news.

I think your right. Why would a reporter or Terry Bradshaw even bring it up? To do so takes away from the merit of what each coach acclomplished. Its totally irrelevant. Go Bears!

sourdough

It is very strange to me that in black people are drastically under represented in coaching and management despite their strong presence as athletes in the sport.

Any ideas as to why?

keeponrockin

sourdough wrote:

It is very strange to me that in black people are drastically under represented in coaching and management despite their strong presence as athletes in the sport.

Any ideas as to why?

I wondered that as well actually.

cornnifer

It is worthy of mention. Not absurd at all IMO. It wasn't long ago that Black head coaches were completely non-existent in professional sports. Not only are Blacks are finally allowed to contribute something to their respective games other than scoring touchdowns or slam dunks, but two Black head coaches are facing off in professional football's biggest game. Its not only worthy of mention, but applause! Why does this shit bug White folks so much?

miller8966

cornnifer wrote:

It is worthy of mention. Not absurd at all IMO. It wasn't long ago that Black head coaches were completely non-existent in professional sports. Not only are Blacks are finally allowed to contribute something to their respective games other than scoring touchdowns or slam dunks, but two Black head coaches are facing off in professional football's biggest game. Its not only worthy of mention, but applause! Why does this shit bug White folks so much?

If a white running back carried his team to the superbowl should it be the first thing out of the announcers mouth?

soulsinging

cos blacks are mentally inferior and anything evincing anything more than raw physical prowess is cause for celebration akin to the special olympics.

soulsinging

Sawyer wrote:

i think al sharpton is calling:)

tell him im not home

ryan198

miller8966 wrote:

If a white running back carried his team to the superbowl should it be the first thing out of the announcers mouth?

The problem is that whiteness is the assumed racial category of anyone in power, QB, MLB, C, Coach, GM, Owner ... it only gets marked or named when someone is a minority and playing that position because in some ways it usurps the normalcy of that power. Or as soulsinging so aptly put it...even today in the media black people aren't supposed to think, and when a black person shows that the hue of one's skin has nothing to do with their ability to be any of the above it shocks the latently racist media into thinking that it's a big deal.

american

cornnifer wrote:

It is worthy of mention. Not absurd at all IMO. It wasn't long ago that Black head coaches were completely non-existent in professional sports. Not only are Blacks are finally allowed to contribute something to their respective games other than scoring touchdowns or slam dunks, but two Black head coaches are facing off in professional football's biggest game. Its not only worthy of mention, but applause! Why does this shit bug White folks so much?

Finally allowed to contribute?!!!! They have been able to contribute for decades now. It is by no means anything new. The only thing worth mentioning directly after a championship game is something that compliments the merit of what they accomplished, not the head coaches race. Give us all a break!

cornnifer

miller8966 wrote:

If a white running back carried his team to the superbowl should it be the first thing out of the announcers mouth?

Congratulations, you may have just made the dumbest post EVER on this board.
Are you comparing the White experience in America, in general, and professional sports specifically, with that of Blacks? Are you saying that in the history of the game there has never been an accomplished White running Back? That guy on the heisman trophy looks pretty fuckin' white to me.
Besides, the point is once upon a time Blacks were not allowed to compete in professional sports. After awhile it was o.k. as long as they scored lots of touchdowns, stole lots of bases or ripped down a couple of basketball rims, but, coaching? "No fuckin way. Coons are too fuckin stupid for that". Now two Black head coaches are leading their teams into one of the biggest events in all of sport. I say shout it from the hilltop!

cornnifer

american wrote:

Finally allowed to contribute?!!!! They have been able to contribute for decades now. It is by no means anything new. The only thing worth mentioning directly after a championship game is something that compliments the merit of what they accomplished, not the head coaches race. Give us all a break!

For decades they have been scoring touchdowns, stealing bases, slamming dunks etc. They havn't been coaching in super bowls, bugnuts! This is the first time.

american

cornnifer wrote:

For decades they have been scoring touchdowns, stealing bases, slamming dunks etc. They havn't been coaching in super bowls, bugnuts! This is the first time.

They have been allowed to contribute,NUMNUTS , for decades as coaches.

ryan198

cornnifer wrote:

Congratulations, you may have just made the dumbest post EVER on this board.
Are you comparing the White experience in America, in general, and professional sports specifically, with that of Blacks? Are you saying that in the history of the game there has never been an accomplished White running Back? That guy on the heisman trophy looks pretty fuckin' white to me.
Besides, the point is once upon a time Blacks were not allowed to compete in professional sports. After awhile it was o.k. as long as they scored lots of touchdowns, stole lots of bases or ripped down a couple of basketball rims, but, coaching? "No fuckin way. Coons are too fuckin stupid for that". Now two Black head coaches are leading their teams into one of the biggest events in all of sport. I say shout it from the hilltop!

It is quite interesting that we have two black head coaches leading their team to the Super Bowl, the best GM in baseball is Latino (Omar Minaya), and the best owner in basketball (Mark Cuban) used to be some nobody who struck it rich. All these people had to be given a chance, or hit a lucky break because they weren't born into money, or didn't have the right skin color, and we still complain about college entry when far more rich white students get legacied in than any affirmative action student backdoored their way in? Doesn't this show that giving chances to those who are different might possibly be working?

Rushlimbo

I think this is awesome. These guys are true role models for their communities so I see nothing wrong with making it a story. Miller is just angry his Jets and Giants suck ass bigtime.

Milhouse VanHouten

american wrote:

I think your right. Why would a reporter or Terry Bradshaw even bring it up? To do so takes away from the merit of what each coach acclomplished. Its totally irrelevant. Go Bears!

It has nothing to do with merit, it has to do with opportunity. Neither Dungy or Lovey Dovey were allowed to coach in the Super Bowl. The point is that the league has progressed to the point where black coaches have become prevalent enough that they have the same opportunity to reach the Super Bowl as any white coach.

I have no idea why Terry Bradshaw would bring it up, though. He's a dumbass.

chopitdown

i think it is cool that it's happening, but then again, people following football aren't stupid; the fact that those two are darker skinned hasn't gotten by anyone. I don't think the Bears or Colts are going to lose fans b/c of a sudden realization that the coach is black. The obvious doesn't need to be pointed out, and until it isn't pointed out we still have a long way to go.

mrwalkerb

sourdough wrote:

It is very strange to me that in black people are drastically under represented in coaching and management despite their strong presence as athletes in the sport.

Any ideas as to why?

I gave this some thought a few years ago when I learnt about the NFL's policy of making sure that teams interview minority coaches for open positions. This is the conclusion I came to:

The fact that black GMs, Coaches etc. are a rarity right now is because integration is still only a few decades old. Now it makes sense that a lot of ex-players take more management positions with teams because they know the sport and that is what they have done a majority of their life. So up until fairly recently the ratio of black and other minority players who would want those jobs has been lower do to the lower percentage of them in the position to move on up as it were. Now as more and more black athletes retire and want to stay involved there will be more qualified minorities people to assume those roles. I think it makes sense that the numbers of coaches etc. are slightly behind those of players but I honestly believe that in the next 5-10 years it will reach an equilibrium and it won't matter. This could be total Bullshit but it makes sense to me.

gue_barium

Lovie handled it with class. The questions. Stupid media.