This race crap is absurd
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I was watching the end of the football game last night, and the first thing they bring up, is the fact that for the first time in history we now have 2 black coaches going to the superbowl.
Who the fuck cares?
Why does this have to be the first thing brought up after indy won...even tony dungy was caught off guard by this. its the year 2007, this really isnt a big deal.
This isnt a milestone like jackie robinson in baseball or anything...people will do anything to get race into the news.
Who the fuck cares?
Why does this have to be the first thing brought up after indy won...even tony dungy was caught off guard by this. its the year 2007, this really isnt a big deal.
This isnt a milestone like jackie robinson in baseball or anything...people will do anything to get race into the news.
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i can't imagine why it was such a big deal, so if anyone can think of something logical then fill me in.
im with you here. who cares? the color of that dudes skin has nothing to do with how he helped the colts reach the super bowl.
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Any ideas as to why?
I wondered that as well actually.
If a white running back carried his team to the superbowl should it be the first thing out of the announcers mouth?
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Are you comparing the White experience in America, in general, and professional sports specifically, with that of Blacks? Are you saying that in the history of the game there has never been an accomplished White running Back? That guy on the heisman trophy looks pretty fuckin' white to me.
Besides, the point is once upon a time Blacks were not allowed to compete in professional sports. After awhile it was o.k. as long as they scored lots of touchdowns, stole lots of bases or ripped down a couple of basketball rims, but, coaching? "No fuckin way. Coons are too fuckin stupid for that". Now two Black head coaches are leading their teams into one of the biggest events in all of sport. I say shout it from the hilltop!
For decades they have been scoring touchdowns, stealing bases, slamming dunks etc. They havn't been coaching in super bowls, bugnuts! This is the first time.
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It has nothing to do with merit, it has to do with opportunity. Neither Dungy or Lovey Dovey were allowed to coach in the Super Bowl. The point is that the league has progressed to the point where black coaches have become prevalent enough that they have the same opportunity to reach the Super Bowl as any white coach.
I have no idea why Terry Bradshaw would bring it up, though. He's a dumbass.
I gave this some thought a few years ago when I learnt about the NFL's policy of making sure that teams interview minority coaches for open positions. This is the conclusion I came to:
The fact that black GMs, Coaches etc. are a rarity right now is because integration is still only a few decades old. Now it makes sense that a lot of ex-players take more management positions with teams because they know the sport and that is what they have done a majority of their life. So up until fairly recently the ratio of black and other minority players who would want those jobs has been lower do to the lower percentage of them in the position to move on up as it were. Now as more and more black athletes retire and want to stay involved there will be more qualified minorities people to assume those roles. I think it makes sense that the numbers of coaches etc. are slightly behind those of players but I honestly believe that in the next 5-10 years it will reach an equilibrium and it won't matter. This could be total Bullshit but it makes sense to me.
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And remember... it wasn't until 1988... 69 years after it's creation... that a black quarterback lead a Championship team.
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To address Miller's question about a white running back leading his team to the Championship... so what? John Riggins did it... as did Jim Taylor, Paul Hourning, Larry Csonka, Tom Matte, Alan Ameche, Frank Gifford and Red Grange. It wouldn't be a first so it wouldn't be noteworthy or newsworthy... unless he rushed for 3,000 yards or something.
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It wasn't too long ago that those guys were in shackles and picking cotton for brutal white plantation owners. And it wasn't too long ago that they had to drink at different water fountains. And it wasn't too long ago that Mtv intentionally did not play videos by black artists. According to some documentary I saw, Michael Jackson changed all that.
And now they're coaching major football games. How can that not be something to applaud? I'm just one of those people who likes to root for the underdog I guess.
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People often talk about these trivialities, I don't see anything wrong with it. Of course I didn't hear how they said it. But it would seem perfectly logical to mention it, in my opinion. They don't have to celebrate it, but do you really think mentioning this perpetuates the stereotypes?
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Upon visiting my mom last evening I commented that only in the US would this be a noted thing. Then we watched a Cdn sports talk show and three of the four on the panel agreed. Just add it to the list.
I bet you could name the first black quarterback to win the Super Bowl. The first black head coach in the NFL. You know the drill.
You might be the biggest retard on this board. I love how you spew garbage calling me a racist because i dont think the fact that a black coach going to the superbowl should be the first thing out of an announcers mouth.
Im not comparing the experience of whites to blacks in sports; you obviously are not intelligent enough to understand my post.
My post regarding white running backs, is that they dont exist anymore...so if a white running back was able to bring his team to the super bowl should it be the first thing the media draws upon? IMO no.
Yes - I really think it shows how far we still have to go if people feel the need to mention it.
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