I don't think that I have ever read any of his posts before tonight. As far as American law schools go, all you need to get into any of them is cash. You may have got in on your smarts, but if one of George W's retarded nephews wanted into your school, you would be debating the validity of the case of Knife V. Spoon while they added a new wing on your school.
that's got nothing to do with law school. any school in the country is ike that... business, undergrad, law, whatever. not even school. everything is for sale. we all know that.
are you the buddy he defended in court? you seem to really wanna believe he's a genius.
that's got nothing to do with law school. any school in the country is ike that... business, undergrad, law, whatever. not even school. everything is for sale. we all know that.
are you the buddy he defended in court? you seem to really wanna believe he's a genius.
I want to believe that you are a genius. But I have to remind myself that you are just a law-school student.
1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
i never claimed to be a genius. i only claim to know bullshit when i see it. i am, after all, in school to learn the art of bullshit
I needed some kind of quick off-the-cuff comeback. You're not gonna show me up, lawyer. Also, I take back any comments that may have come across as derogatory. I may need you to defend me in the states if any of my electrical designs go awry and a paper machine comes to life and and goes on a killing spree in the states (I have my friend if it happens here). And I since this is a such a tight-knit community, I know that I would definately be able to retain your services, pro-bono. Thank you in advance.
1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
I needed some kind of quick off-the-cuff comeback. You're not gonna show me up, lawyer. Also, I take back any comments that may have come across as derogatory. I may need you to defend me in the states if any of my electrical designs go awry and a paper machine comes to life and and goes on a killing spree in the states (I have my friend if it happens here). And I since this is a such a tight-knit community, I know that I would definately be able to retain your services, pro-bono. Thank you in advance.
now you're really insulting me. you think id work pro-bono? i sold my soul when i signed my acceptance papers.
Seriously i would probably have a problem with a Black Student Union in a country where blacks consist the majority of citizens, political power, economy, medias, whatever.
Havent really posted an opinion on this thread since it started though I've read the posts and I think that what you pointed out was very interesting.
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LMAO!!! this is the post that I agree with the most!
Geez!!! I just wasted the last 45 minutes reading this thread and those are 45 minutes Ill never get back :(
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that the only people that other people can make statements about without being called a racist or a sexist or homophobic are white males?
So much for equality, and i'm not even a white male.
Having said that, I'm not in favour of any race based groups anywhere, wether they're predominantly white, latino, black or asian, coz it just promotes division. There should never be a club that no one can join because of they're skin colour or race or heritage, but this rarely is true in the real world.
If Pearl Jam was a beer, they'd probably be the best beer in the world!!
that the only people that other people can make statements about without being called a racist or a sexist or homophobic are white males?
So much for equality, and i'm not even a white male.
Having said that, I'm not in favour of any race based groups anywhere, wether they're predominantly white, latino, black or asian, coz it just promotes division. There should never be a club that no one can join because of they're skin colour or race or heritage, but this rarely is true in the real world.
Having said that, I'm not in favour of any race based groups anywhere, wether they're predominantly white, latino, black or asian, coz it just promotes division. There should never be a club that no one can join because of they're skin colour or race or heritage, but this rarely is true in the real world.
An african American History club, first of all, does not promote division. It promotes an understanding of Black culture and an understanding and celebration of Black American history and accomplishment that is strangely missing from the standard, mainstream curriculuum. Nothing about division.
Furthermore, membership is never restricted to African Americans. Whitey is perfectly welcome to join if he wants to. He just doesn't.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
miller8966, I agree with you 110%. It is bullshit that people are going to call a 15 year old girl racist for wanting to be proud of her culture and look farther into it with others. How can people say that groups such as the NAACP and other ethnic oriented groups aren't promoting their own heritage and race? They clearly do because they are proud of their race. People should stop being so close minded and forget about past prejudices that this country had. I support this young woman for starting this group. She is proud and should be.
An african American History club, first of all, does not promote division. It promotes an understanding of Black culture and an understanding and celebration of Black American history and accomplishment that is strangely missing from the standard, mainstream curriculuum. Nothing about division.
Furthermore, membership is never restricted to African Americans. Whitey is perfectly welcome to join if he wants to. He just doesn't.
See, things like that I'm perfectly for. A club that promotes understanding of any sort of culture but is not limited to the people it promotes is fantastic.
If Pearl Jam was a beer, they'd probably be the best beer in the world!!
miller8966, I agree with you 110%. It is bullshit that people are going to call a 15 year old girl racist for wanting to be proud of her culture and look farther into it with others. How can people say that groups such as the NAACP and other ethnic oriented groups aren't promoting their own heritage and race? They clearly do because they are proud of their race. People should stop being so close minded and forget about past prejudices that this country had. I support this young woman for starting this group. She is proud and should be.
I'd fully support her if the club was not mutually exclusive to white people and promotes the culture and heritage in a positive, non-racist way. I'm all for understanding other peoples culture and making the world a much smaller place.
If Pearl Jam was a beer, they'd probably be the best beer in the world!!
See, things like that I'm perfectly for. A club that promotes understanding of any sort of culture but is not limited to the people it promotes is fantastic.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that a "European Heritage" club, started with the sincere purpose, and operating under the sincere circumstances of students using extra-curricular energies to study and learn about various european histories and cultures would be in and of itself a bad thing. The fear lies with the motives and projected membership of such a club. Especially, being as it is that such a club really IS a bit redundant given he standard school curriculuum and culture in which we live, i am a tad suspicious of these things. Even the suggested name of the club ("Caucasian Heritage"), as the man in the article suggested, sounds a bit suspect to me. How do i know this girl isn't just stamping her foot and in a whiny baby voice saying "well, gee, there's a Black club, we want one too, blah, blah"... and seeking to start up this club under the same insincere, ignorant, and racially prejudiced pretenses some in this thread are espousing? i also fear that if not immediately, shortly down the road this club would only attract, and become breeding grounds for hateful, supremicists. If this were to prove true, the club, once started would be alot harder to shut down.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
No that's bullshit. We are all decendants of Ethiopian Homo Sapien. We are all brothers.
What about archipilego? When all land was one, who owned it then?
You know it's all bullshit, but you are advocating for them simply because your husband or whatever is black and that has influenced your train of thought.
Yeah bullshit, that's all you gotta say. You ignore what i'm saying, so keep talking about bullshit all you want. You ignore facts cause the facts are not proving you right, so you'd rather have your own reality, that no reparation should be made and that land claim are bullshit, good for you and your huge brain, but you're wrong.
As for this thread point, i think the club is ok, as long as they're not talking about some kind of skin color supremacy, but if they just wanna talk history and eat sandwiches, good for them.
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As for this thread point, i think the club is ok, as long as they're not talking about some kind of skin color supremacy, but if they just wanna talk history and eat sandwiches, good for them.
That's my worry over a club for whites - It'll probably turn into a "we're so much better than everyone else cos we're white" type of club where they just sit and list out ways they think they are better, which usually involves hating others and finding ways of justifying that hate through the old so-called "high IQ" argument, as is usually the case with these people. I find that white supremacists usually end up acting on their beliefs in some negative racist way against others, and the club could be fuelling supremacist attitudes for the future with no redress for their views.
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London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
a white cultural and heritage club would be a little bit redundant don't you think. Everything I've learnt so far in terms of education, media and literature has always been about white culture and heritage. There seems to be a distinct lack of knowledge disseminated on asian, latino and black culture and heritage. However, I don't think that's the point of the discussion. The discussion is more about if it is racist to have a white culture and heritage club and i don't think it is as long as it isn't mutually exclusive to white people.
If Pearl Jam was a beer, they'd probably be the best beer in the world!!
"I think she's doing this for the right reasons, but what's going to happen when she graduates? What's it going to turn into?" said Mr. Turner, who added he was speaking for himself and not the NAACP.
Maybe it will turn into the NAAE-AP.
Lord knows we need another organization to remind us that we're all a little different.
I'm going to form an organization of my own some day...The National Association for Terminally Stuck People. It's going to be all-inclusive. The only catch is that you have to have a firm belief that your racial heritage has any legitimate value or meaning in the grand scheme of the universe.
and guess who invented almost everything-whites or jews
Except for the ones that Asians and Blacks invented.
"We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan --- London, Brixton, 14 July 1993 London, Wembley, 1996 London, Wembley, 18 June 2007 London, O2, 18 August 2009 London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012 Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
and guess who invented almost everything-whites or jews
of course george washington carver was very bright[/quote"]
You are fucking kidding me everyone who read this is now just a tad dumber. Holy shit, i still can't believe i just read this.
This is a bright shining example of why Black history and heritage clubs are not only acceptable, but IMPERATIVE! This poster should join one. Try this for starters.
You are fucking kidding me everyone who read this is now just a tad dumber. Holy shit, i still can't believe i just read this.
This is a bright shining example of why Black history and heritage clubs are not only acceptable, but IMPERATIVE! This poster should join one. Try this for starters.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. What the hell are they teaching people in school these days?? Especially with comments like this. No wonder my parents gave me extra reading on black and native american history outside of school, because it obviously wasn't being tauhgt in the classroom. It's amazing how some peolpe thing the US became the country it is today without the help of native americans and my ancestors (african slaves and indentured servents). http://www.commondreams.org/views/072000-107.htm
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A 15-year-old girl's effort to start a Caucasian Club at her California high school has won her some support -- and an avalanche of anger.
Freshman Lisa McClelland gathered about 250 signatures from students and adults to start a club at Freedom High School in Oakley, Calif., that would focus attention on European heritage and history.
Her campaign has won the support of many students, not all of them white, who say such a group would be no different from the school's other ethnic clubs, which include the Black Student Union, the Latinos Unidos and the ALOHA club for Asian-American students.
"I applaud Lisa McClelland. She should be allowed to be proud of her heritage and want to know more about it just like anyone else," said one student on the high school's e-mail forum. "What a bunch of hypocrites when people start using the word 'racist.' Why isn't the Latino club racist? Or the Asian or African-American club?"
But the Caucasian Club has run into opposition from those who accuse the club of fueling racial tension.
Darnell Turner, vice president of the East County National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said he fears the club could morph into a white-supremacy group after Lisa graduates.
"I think she's doing this for the right reasons, but what's going to happen when she graduates? What's it going to turn into?" said Mr. Turner, who added he was speaking for himself and not the NAACP.
He suggested that she change the name to the European-American Club so that the focus would be on heritage, not race.
Lou Calabro, president of the European-American Issues Forum, said he spoke with Lisa on Wednesday when she called to ask for advice.
Since then, he's become an informal adviser for the would-be club. On Friday, he sent letters to two civil-rights organizations requesting an investigation of the school administration.
In the letters, he accused Principal Eric Volta of "resisting the formation of the club" because it "would upset the alleged current positive feelings at the school," said Mr. Calabro in a letter to the U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights.
He cited e-mail he received from Lisa on Friday describing her difficulty in finding an adviser for the club and threats from other students. She also said that teachers are allowing students to place fliers around campus criticizing her campaign.
"She's scared," said Mr. Calabro, who said he receives three to five letters a month from students interested in starting such clubs. "One white football player called her [obscene epithets]. Others are calling her names. She's only 15, so naturally she's upset."
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that's got nothing to do with law school. any school in the country is ike that... business, undergrad, law, whatever. not even school. everything is for sale. we all know that.
are you the buddy he defended in court? you seem to really wanna believe he's a genius.
I want to believe that you are a genius. But I have to remind myself that you are just a law-school student.
i never claimed to be a genius. i only claim to know bullshit when i see it. i am, after all, in school to learn the art of bullshit
I needed some kind of quick off-the-cuff comeback. You're not gonna show me up, lawyer. Also, I take back any comments that may have come across as derogatory. I may need you to defend me in the states if any of my electrical designs go awry and a paper machine comes to life and and goes on a killing spree in the states (I have my friend if it happens here). And I since this is a such a tight-knit community, I know that I would definately be able to retain your services, pro-bono. Thank you in advance.
now you're really insulting me. you think id work pro-bono? i sold my soul when i signed my acceptance papers.
Havent really posted an opinion on this thread since it started though I've read the posts and I think that what you pointed out was very interesting.
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LMAO!!! this is the post that I agree with the most!
Geez!!! I just wasted the last 45 minutes reading this thread and those are 45 minutes Ill never get back :(
So much for equality, and i'm not even a white male.
Having said that, I'm not in favour of any race based groups anywhere, wether they're predominantly white, latino, black or asian, coz it just promotes division. There should never be a club that no one can join because of they're skin colour or race or heritage, but this rarely is true in the real world.
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An african American History club, first of all, does not promote division. It promotes an understanding of Black culture and an understanding and celebration of Black American history and accomplishment that is strangely missing from the standard, mainstream curriculuum. Nothing about division.
Furthermore, membership is never restricted to African Americans. Whitey is perfectly welcome to join if he wants to. He just doesn't.
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See, things like that I'm perfectly for. A club that promotes understanding of any sort of culture but is not limited to the people it promotes is fantastic.
I'd fully support her if the club was not mutually exclusive to white people and promotes the culture and heritage in a positive, non-racist way. I'm all for understanding other peoples culture and making the world a much smaller place.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that a "European Heritage" club, started with the sincere purpose, and operating under the sincere circumstances of students using extra-curricular energies to study and learn about various european histories and cultures would be in and of itself a bad thing. The fear lies with the motives and projected membership of such a club. Especially, being as it is that such a club really IS a bit redundant given he standard school curriculuum and culture in which we live, i am a tad suspicious of these things. Even the suggested name of the club ("Caucasian Heritage"), as the man in the article suggested, sounds a bit suspect to me. How do i know this girl isn't just stamping her foot and in a whiny baby voice saying "well, gee, there's a Black club, we want one too, blah, blah"... and seeking to start up this club under the same insincere, ignorant, and racially prejudiced pretenses some in this thread are espousing? i also fear that if not immediately, shortly down the road this club would only attract, and become breeding grounds for hateful, supremicists. If this were to prove true, the club, once started would be alot harder to shut down.
Yeah bullshit, that's all you gotta say. You ignore what i'm saying, so keep talking about bullshit all you want. You ignore facts cause the facts are not proving you right, so you'd rather have your own reality, that no reparation should be made and that land claim are bullshit, good for you and your huge brain, but you're wrong.
As for this thread point, i think the club is ok, as long as they're not talking about some kind of skin color supremacy, but if they just wanna talk history and eat sandwiches, good for them.
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
That's my worry over a club for whites - It'll probably turn into a "we're so much better than everyone else cos we're white" type of club where they just sit and list out ways they think they are better, which usually involves hating others and finding ways of justifying that hate through the old so-called "high IQ" argument, as is usually the case with these people. I find that white supremacists usually end up acting on their beliefs in some negative racist way against others, and the club could be fuelling supremacist attitudes for the future with no redress for their views.
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London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
and guess who invented almost everything-whites or jews
of course george washington carver was very bright
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Maybe it will turn into the NAAE-AP.
Lord knows we need another organization to remind us that we're all a little different.
I'm going to form an organization of my own some day...The National Association for Terminally Stuck People. It's going to be all-inclusive. The only catch is that you have to have a firm belief that your racial heritage has any legitimate value or meaning in the grand scheme of the universe.
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Except for the ones that Asians and Blacks invented.
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London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
London, Wembley, 1996
London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
London, O2, 18 August 2009
London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
and guess who invented almost everything-whites or jews
of course george washington carver was very bright[/quote"]
You are fucking kidding me everyone who read this is now just a tad dumber. Holy shit, i still can't believe i just read this.
This is a bright shining example of why Black history and heritage clubs are not only acceptable, but IMPERATIVE! This poster should join one. Try this for starters.
http://inventors.about.com/library/blblackinventors.htm
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. What the hell are they teaching people in school these days?? Especially with comments like this. No wonder my parents gave me extra reading on black and native american history outside of school, because it obviously wasn't being tauhgt in the classroom. It's amazing how some peolpe thing the US became the country it is today without the help of native americans and my ancestors (african slaves and indentured servents).
http://www.commondreams.org/views/072000-107.htm
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