Caucasian club started...draws anger

chopitdown

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

Maybe if Whitey treated everyone as equal, there wouldn't be a need for minority clubs!

The fact that no one is asking about the motive shows how wrong it is to have caucasian groups!

Maybe if everyone, even crackers, took the chip off their shoulders we'd all realize that ...gasp...we're different, not better, just different. Just like there are art clubs, athletic clubs, language clubs people have different interests.

the NAACP in the article said that her motive appeared fine...he was worried about what would happen after she left. All this pissing and moaning is over hypotheticals.

miller8966

VictoryGin wrote:

i'm not denying that 'white people' have suffered hardships of any kind. i'm trying to figure out what miller is talking about by his use of 'white culture'. sadly, i don't think he even knows. or maybe he would have answered my question.

and this club from the original article was supposed to be european heritage--what is miller's 'white culture'?

When they say European heritage, it pretty much means "white". Come on use some brain power.

chopitdown

VictoryGin wrote:

i'm not denying that 'white people' have suffered hardships of any kind. i'm trying to figure out what miller is talking about by his use of 'white culture'. sadly, i don't think he even knows. or maybe he would have answered my question.

and this club from the original article was supposed to be european heritage--what is miller's 'white culture'?

i'll let miller answer that

Ahnimus

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

oh, great, Mr. fact book is here!



Saying that something is "typical" IS stereotyping!

Are you serious?

Ok, white men never oppressed anyone, never hurt anyone, never did anything wrong.

Saying otherwise, saying it's typical, or that it was related to white people at all is stereotyping.

stuckinline

this is a list of the current clubs at her high school:

Freedom High School Clubs
Alternative
Aloha club
Art club
BSU
Band
Centrestage-Drama Club
Cheerleading
Choir
Clay Club
Colorguard
California Scholarship Federation
Dance Team
European Trip
French Club
German Club
Hockey Club
MESA Club
IPOU
Journalism
Key Club
Latinos Unidos
Leadership
Link Crew
Mesa club
NHS
Radio Freedom
Reality Check
Snowboarding Club
Speech and Debate
Yearbook


http://www.libertyuhsd.k12.ca.us/Freedom/FHS_Clubs/index.html

Ahnimus

chopitdown wrote:

Maybe if everyone, even crackers, took the chip off their shoulders we'd all realize that ...gasp...we're different, not better, just different. Just like there are art clubs, athletic clubs, language clubs people have different interests.

the NAACP in the article said that her motive appeared fine...he was worried about what would happen after she left. All this pissing and moaning is over hypotheticals.

Don't call me a cracker, racist pig, I'll report you!

thankyougrandma

miller8966 wrote:

When they say European heritage, it pretty much means "white". Come on use some brain power.

how about hispanic europeans?

JOEJOEJOE

chopitdown wrote:

Maybe if everyone, even crackers, took the chip off their shoulders we'd all realize that ...gasp...we're different, not better, just different. Just like there are art clubs, athletic clubs, language clubs people have different interests.

the NAACP in the article said that her motive appeared fine...he was worried about what would happen after she left. All this pissing and moaning is over hypotheticals.

but don't you think that minorities are more justified in having a chip on their shoulders?

I am not saying its productive, but it sure seems understandable to me.

An aggressor can't be the one to ask for healing....they started it, so they need to live with the bi-products of their actions!

Ahnimus

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

but don't you think that minorities are more justified in having a chip on their shoulders?

I am not saying its productive, but it sure seems understandable to me.

An aggressor can't be the one to ask for healing....they started it, so they need to live with the bi-products of their actions!

I didn't start anything you racist!

Cree Nations

thankyougrandma wrote:

how about hispanic europeans?

Geraldo doesnt count....hes an anomoly

Hope&Anger

miller8966 wrote:

And no we dont need to narrow white.

Don't tell that to my mother, who is an ethnic Russian who would literally club you if you called her Ukranian or Polish. Not to mention the Serbs and the Croats. Hell, the French and the English.

But they're all white, right?

chopitdown

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

but don't you think that minorities are more justified in having a chip on their shoulders?

I am not saying its productive, but it sure seems understandable to me.

An aggressor can't be the one to ask for healing....they started it, so they need to live with the bi-products of their actions!

i think as long as people think they are justified in having chips on their shoulders, we can never make progress. I can def agree that it seems understandable. But for me it goes back to people on both sides of the issue saying we need to move forward, but as soon as race can be contrued (rightly or wrongly) as an issue...it all too often is.

Pacomc79

Free Country, getting upset about somebodies history club is a little ridiculous and it's protected in the Bill of Rights.

It's semantics.

What does it really matter if a group of people sit in a room and read about European history?

miller8966

Hope&Anger wrote:

Don't tell that to my mother, who is an ethnic Russian who would literally club you if you called her Ukranian or Polish. Not to mention the Serbs and the Croats. Hell, the French and the English.

But they're all white, right?

what are you talking about?

miller8966

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

but don't you think that minorities are more justified in having a chip on their shoulders?

I am not saying its productive, but it sure seems understandable to me.

An aggressor can't be the one to ask for healing....they started it, so they need to live with the bi-products of their actions!

Trust me im fine i dont need to "heal"

Let me ask you, are you white?

Ahnimus

chopitdown wrote:

i think as long as people think they are justified in having chips on their shoulders, we can never make progress. I can def agree that it seems understandable. But for me it goes back to people on both sides of the issue saying we need to move forward, but as soon as race can be contrued (rightly or wrongly) as an issue...it all too often is.

That is the kicker.

Sure, some guys with beige/pinkish skin did some shit to some guys with black/brownish skin, some time in the past. But that's not everyone, most of those pink and brown people are dead now. Things have changed a lot.

Not to mention Africa sold the slaves to Brittain and the U.S.

The problem we have now is people hanging on to those events from the past. I agree it's important to understand how we got to the point we are at, but it's more important to examine how we are now.

JOEJOEJOE

chopitdown wrote:

i think as long as people think they are justified in having chips on their shoulders, we can never make progress. I can def agree that it seems understandable. But for me it goes back to people on both sides of the issue saying we need to move forward, but as soon as race can be contrued (rightly or wrongly) as an issue...it all too often is.

you make a great point......we can't forget the past, but we need to try and avoid letting it diminish our future!....easier said then done, however.

miller8966

Ahnimus wrote:

That is the kicker.

Sure, some guys with beige/pinkish skin did some shit to some guys with black/brownish skin, some time in the past. But that's not everyone, most of those pink and brown people are dead now. Things have changed a lot.

Not to mention Africa sold the slaves to Brittain and the U.S.

The problem we have now is people hanging on to those events from the past. I agree it's important to understand how we got to the point we are at, but it's more important to examine how we are now.

NO NO NO AHNIMUS! You have to pay for it...sure you didnt do anything but your ancestors did!

thankyougrandma

miller8966 wrote:

what are you talking about?

he/she's talking about the fact that white peoples don't all have the same heritage, which is why it should be explained as to what you consider your white heritage... i think it's pretty clear, even for a white french guy...

Hope&Anger

miller8966 wrote:

what are you talking about?

You said we "don't need to narrow white." I assumed that you were saying that we don't need to narrow down whites into smaller groups. I'm arguing that lots of white people try to distinguish themselves from other white people.