Caucasian club started...draws anger

soulsinging

jlew24asu wrote:

I see what your saying but I disagree. your heritage is american but someone down the line you have family members that came from somewhere else.

nothing wrong though with celebrating individualism. by the same tokin, we are all ethnically different. I didnt choose to be italian or irish but I am. I also enjoy celebrating Italian and irish heritage. like the great italian cooking and the awesome irish dancing. I like knowing where my family came from.

the only problem I have with this girls club is the name. other then that, I think its a great idea.

caucasian is not a heritage. there would be no problem if it was an italian american or an irish american club. ditto for latino. calling the one club the black students club is the only exception. it ought to be the african american club, but in the end, the blakc people in this country all came from there anyway so it's just semantics.

surferdude

thankyougrandma wrote:

Seriously i would probably have a problem with a Black Student Union in a country where blacks consist the majority of citizens, political power, economy, medias, whatever.

I'm not sure why as a society we would ever want to grant rights to a minority group that we would not also want to grant to a majority group.

It kind seems like the human rights equivalent of fighting for peace.

JOEJOEJOE

thankyougrandma wrote:

Seriously i would probably have a problem with a Black Student Union in a country where blacks consist the majority of citizens, political power, economy, medias, whatever.

good point!

the majority should never parade itself!

cornnifer

qtegirl wrote:

Well, isn't normal history class basically an European heritage class already? .

Exactly.
African American History clubs, for example, are born out of necessity. THAT is what makes them different. A "caucasian" history club is completely unneccesary. It already exists. Its called history class. Look i have no problem with someone wishing to learn more about their European heritage. There is no problem with that. Something tells me, however, that this isn't the REAL purpose of wanting to start this club. It is probably an attempt to stir up shit. Maybe i'm wrong. i can't help smellin' somethin stinky, though. i, like the man from the NAACP, also wonder about the types of people who be really attracted to this club. i can picture Edward Furlong from "American History X" passing out flyers.

jlew24asu

soulsinging wrote:

caucasian is not a heritage. there would be no problem if it was an italian american or an irish american club. ditto for latino. calling the one club the black students club is the only exception. it ought to be the african american club, but in the end, the blakc people in this country all came from there anyway so it's just semantics.

I didnt say caucasian is a hertiage. did i? thats why i said i had a problem with the name.

surferdude

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

good point!

the majority should never parade itself!

So since women make up the majority of the population all somen's groupd should be banned. Interesting.

surferdude

cornnifer wrote:

Exactly.
African American History clubs, for example, are born out of necessity. THAT is what makes them different. A "caucasian" history club is completely unneccesary. It already exists. Its called history class. Look i have no problem with someone wishing to learn more about their European heritage. There is no problem with that. Something tells me, however, that this isn't the REAL purpose of wanting to start this club. It is probably an attempt to stir up shit. Maybe i'm wrong. i can't help smellin' somethin stinky, though. i, like the man from the NAACP, also wonder about the types of people who be really attracted to this club. i can picture Edward Furlong from "American History X" passing out flyers.

As distasteful as this club is it shouldn't be anyone's concern (except the club's) about the type person who would join. Unless schools are also going to start asking questions about the type person that would join the chess club, or black student union. Equal rights will only come when we treat people equal. White people should be given the option and school resources to start a distatsteful or stupid club as any other group of people.

thankyougrandma

surferdude wrote:

So since women make up the majority of the population all somen's groupd should be banned. Interesting.

Women make up a majority of the population, can you say that womens are equally represented in every power sphere? Women are catching up on men cause mens kept their rights away from them for way too long, same could be said for minorities, now they're catching up and it's the majorities duty to help them doing so, unfortunatly it's not really happening, so they have to fight harder than the usual man part of the majority. (specially for sexual orientation, races or genders minority)

Although i do agree that if you "give a right", it must be given to everyone, in this case they have the "right" to start this club, no law prevent them to do so, but do they really need to do so? Or are they just trying to stir shits up among other cultural minorities? Such a touchy and very blurry subject, if our countries would have been built on good foundations, we wouldn't need these accomodations in the first places, unfortunatly we have a lot to catch up, even if a lot have been done (in many case thanks to minority groups). Some country have a lot more work to do than the USA or Canada on that matter.

VictoryGin

surferdude wrote:

So since women make up the majority of the population all somen's groupd should be banned. Interesting.

they are the majority in numbers only. they are not the majority power or culture by any means. there's a big difference.

norm

Instead of having clubs for every ethnic race, why not one club that includes all races? Perhaps if everyone understood and appreciated each others background there might be less racism and hatred.

Milhouse VanHouten

What would club meetings entail? Civil War reenactments? Country line dancing? Everybody Loves Raymond marathons? Field trips to gun shows? Boooooring.

cornnifer

surferdude wrote:

As distasteful as this club is it shouldn't be anyone's concern (except the club's) about the type person who would join. Unless schools are also going to start asking questions about the type person that would join the chess club, or black student union. Equal rights will only come when we treat people equal. White people should be given the option and school resources to start a distatsteful or stupid club as any other group of people.

i have to disagree. School resources should not be afforded to students, white or otherwise, to engage in activities predicated upon hatred. This is what makes it different from the chess club (or Black Student Union for that matter).
The only thing the Chess Club kids may potentially be accused of is being, perhaps, unpopular. The same can not be said of a group populated primarily by the fucking trench coat mafia.

miller8966

VictoryGin wrote:

they are the majority in numbers only. they are not the majority power or culture by any means. there's a big difference.

We "white people" deserve our own club to celebrate our heritage.

norm

Claire Standish: You know why guys like you knock everything?
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John Bender: Oh God, you richies are so smart, that's exactly why I'm not heavy into activities.
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Brian Johnson: I'm in the math club.
Claire Standish: See, you're afraid that they won't take you, you don't belong, so you have to just dump all over it.
John Bender: Well, it wouldn't have anything to do with you activities people being assholes, now would it?
Claire Standish: Well, you wouldn't know, you don't even know any of us.
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John Bender: So?
Claire Standish: So academic clubs aren't the same as other kinds of clubs.
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Brian Johnson: Well, in physics we... we talk about physics, properties of physics.
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miller8966

Milhouse VanHouten wrote:

What would club meetings entail? Civil War reenactments? Country line dancing? Everybody Loves Raymond marathons? Field trips to gun shows? Boooooring.

O cause other ethnicites are so exciting....do thy re-enact getting bitch slapped by white people?

VictoryGin

Milhouse VanHouten wrote:

What would club meetings entail? Civil War reenactments? Country line dancing? Everybody Loves Raymond marathons? Field trips to gun shows? Boooooring.

milhouse, it's the heritage which leads me to think that italians could celebrate columbus (even though people aren't really certain he was from genoa, italy and may have been portuguese and totally ignore the afro-phoenicians' role in 'america'). i'm also guessing some reenactments of the reformation and the renaissance. oh yeah, renaissance fairs! in other words, your typical history course. oh, the scientific revolution too! perhaps they could try to change lead to gold before they revolt.

miller8966

VictoryGin wrote:

milhouse, it's the heritage which leads me to think that italians could celebrate columbus (even though people aren't really certain he was from genoa, italy and may have been portuguese and totally ignore the afro-phoenicians' role in 'america'). i'm also guessing some reenactments of the reformation and the renaissance. oh yeah, renaissance fairs! in other words, your typical history course. oh, the scientific revolution too! perhaps they could try to change lead to gold before they revolt.

And what have other groups contributed?

VictoryGin

miller8966 wrote:

We "white people" deserve our own club to celebrate our heritage.

what is the "white" heritage exactly? i'd love to hear about what you're going to celebrate.

cornnifer

miller8966 wrote:

O cause other ethnicites are so exciting....do thy re-enact getting bitch slapped by white people?

This may be the stupidest shit i've ever read here. Sincerely.


Don't you have a cross to burn somewhere?

miller8966

VictoryGin wrote:

what is the "white" heritage exactly? i'd love to hear about what you're going to celebrate.

What are black people going to celebrate?