Tony Dungy

dg1979us

soulsinging wrote:

im not ripping the guy. you admit it's annoying. that's all i was ever commenting on. actually, i wouldn't even go that far, cos im not annoyed by it. i just think it's funny and ridiculous. so i poke fun at people who do it. cos even if their intent is not to say god was on their side, it comes off that way almost every time.

It only comes off that way because of your own opinion on the matter. The way he said it by no means tried to show that God somehow made the colts win. You are more or less attributing an idea to him that he clearly did not say. Thats your shortcoming, not his.

surferdude

soulsinging wrote:

somebody peaked in hs and their life has never been as good since...

Played college ball as well. The point was that you take from football (and any sport or group activity) what you want. I learned tons of good things from sports that I apply everyday as a professional in the business world. If someone only sees "lawful savages" that's because that's all they chose to find.

Football's just a game, work's just work, family's just family, Pearl Jam's just music. Not sure if there was a point you were trying to make.

CorporateWhore

Anytime they thank God, it's not because they are thanking him for the outcome of game. They are thanking Him for blessing them with the lives they have. When you are successful and you thank God for it, you concede that you could not be what you are without Him. It's an act of humility before God's love.

dharma69

CorporateWhore wrote:

Anytime they thank God, it's not because they are thanking him for the outcome of game. They are thanking Him for blessing them with the lives they have. When you are successful and you thank God for it, you concede that you could not be what you are without Him. It's an act of humility before God's love.

Being thankful for blessings; conceding that this wonderful thing and your life would not be possible without Him.....oh my, what a concept!

But please don't let this logic stop any of you from dragging this drivel on.

NMyTree

dharma69 wrote:

Being thankful for blessings; conceding that this wonderful thing and your life would not be possible without Him.....oh my, what a concept!

But please don't let this logic stop any of you from dragging this drivel on.

That's called faith in one specific "God".

Not everyone believes in the same "God".

Not everyone believes in "God", period.

If you want to call up "Logic". "Logic" dictates, that which can not be seen, touched, felt or proven to exist; does not exist. That's logic.

You're talking Faith. Not Logic.

Don't confuse Faith and Logic.

dg1979us

NMyTree wrote:

That's called faith in one specific "God".

Not everyone believes in the same "God".

Not everyone believes in "God", period.

If you want to call up "Logic". "Logic" dictates, that which can not be seen, touched, felt or proven to exist; does not exist. That's logic.

You're talking Faith. Not Logic.

Don't confuse Faith and Logic.

She is talking about the "logic" that if a person believes in God, then that person might thank him for what that person perceives as blessings in their life. You guys are making way to much of this.

dharma69

NMyTree wrote:

That's called faith in one specific "God".

Not everyone believes in the same "God".

Not everyone believes in "God", period.

If you want to call up "Logic". "Logic" dictates, that which can not be seen, touched, felt or proven to exist; does not exist. That's logic.

You're talking Faith. Not Logic.

Don't confuse Faith and Logic.

I'm afraid that you're confused....and I've confused nothing; and never said that anyone believes in one God or any God, period....

I refered to the *logic* of CorporateWhore's reasonable statement; not the logic of faith. Simple. No confusion on my part.

hippiemom

surferdude wrote:

Played college ball as well. The point was that you take from football (and any sport or group activity) what you want. I learned tons of good things from sports that I apply everyday as a professional in the business world. If someone only sees "lawful savages" that's because that's all they chose to find.

Football's just a game, work's just work, family's just family, Pearl Jam's just music. Not sure if there was a point you were trying to make.

And if someone chooses not to see the savagery in football, it's also because they choose not to see it. No one said that's all there is to it, but it's certainly there. It's a good game, I enjoy watching it, but it IS savage ... that is not to say that you don't also learn other things by playing.

cincybearcat

hippiemom wrote:

And if someone chooses not to see the savagery in football, it's also because they choose not to see it. No one said that's all there is to it, but it's certainly there. It's a good game, I enjoy watching it, but it IS savage ... that is not to say that you don't also learn other things by playing.

Beating sticks against something to create a loud noise is savage as well.

Rushlimbo

Perhaps football IS god. Tight end = no homosexuality.

ThumbingMyWay32

Tony Dungy. He's a black guy right?

miller8966

surferdude wrote:

If this is what you got out of football I can only guess that you weren't a good player. Football is about making a commitment to yourself to be the best you can be, making a commitment to your teamates to be the best you can be for them, it is about sacrificing your ego for the greater good of the team. How to get back up after you've been beat down. It's about trust, communications, caring. The lessons you learn in football you carry with you through your life, and can help make you a better person. I feel sorry for you that you only learned to be a "lawful savage".

It's about going all out from kickoff to closing whistle and at every practice inbetween. It's about having respect for your opponent, realizing that you can only be your best when your opponent requires you to bring it out. It has absolutely nothing to do with "lawful savages".

I agree. Though i think wrestling gave me more life lessons than football did.

cincybearcat

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Tony Dungy. He's a black guy right?

Ok, that was a great post. Well done sir.

surferdude

hippiemom wrote:

And if someone chooses not to see the savagery in football, it's also because they choose not to see it. No one said that's all there is to it, but it's certainly there. It's a good game, I enjoy watching it, but it IS savage ... that is not to say that you don't also learn other things by playing.

Savagery may be part of the game but if that's what you get out of the game then that's your problem. Much like sweating may be part of sex it's sure not what I take away from it.

Rushlimbo

miller8966 wrote:

I agree. Though i think wrestling gave me more life lessons than football did.

Learned alot about yourself rasslin' with sweaty guys? Not that there is anything wrong with that.....

miller8966

Rushlimbo wrote:

Learned alot about yourself rasslin' with sweaty guys? Not that there is anything wrong with that.....

unlike you im comfortable with my sexuality.

go play soccer.

soulsinging

surferdude wrote:

Played college ball as well. The point was that you take from football (and any sport or group activity) what you want. I learned tons of good things from sports that I apply everyday as a professional in the business world. If someone only sees "lawful savages" that's because that's all they chose to find.

Football's just a game, work's just work, family's just family, Pearl Jam's just music. Not sure if there was a point you were trying to make.

sorry, that just seemed a little melodramatic... like a denzel washington speech at the end of an inspiring football movie

in any case, y'all are taking my off the cuff joke a little too seriously. maybe you ought to listen to a lewis black cd and try removing the sticks from your collective arses. i just think a public, on camera thanking of god after winning a football game, or a grammy, or whatever, is funny. sue me.

sapperskunk

soulsinging wrote:

sorry, that just seemed a little melodramatic... like a denzel washington speech at the end of an inspiring football movie

in any case, y'all are taking my off the cuff joke a little too seriously. maybe you ought to listen to a lewis black cd and try removing the sticks from your collective arses. i just think a public, on camera thanking of god after winning a football game, or a grammy, or whatever, is funny. sue me.

You got it buddy, what's it cost to get a deputy to deliver a subpoena in Illinois?

It's been a while for me, I'm sure the inflation is terrible.

soulsinging

sapperskunk wrote:

You got it buddy, what's it cost to get a deputy to deliver a subpoena in Illinois?

It's been a while for me, I'm sure the inflation is terrible.

no clue, but you'd have to come here to illinois to prosecute me. jurisdiction is a bitch.

Purple Hawk

Fortunate Son1 wrote:

To all you idiots complaining about how a millionaire athlete can relate to God, I doubt many of you know what Coach Dungy has gone through the past two years. I doubt any of you can relate to being a deeply spiritual person who has had to cope with losing a child, only to find the personal strength to rise above it and reach the height of your profession only two years later.

It wasn't about making an oscar style acceptance speech or making a front...it was about being real and showing the world what your beliefs are.....God forbid anybody does that in today's society.

I do not know Coach Dungy personally nor am I a Colts fan - in fact I hated seeing horse face Manning win yesterday - but I am a huge football fan and every time I have seen a piece on Dungy he's always related spirtuallity or faith in his words.......and I was very happy to see Dungy win.

Excellent post.

I think it's actually hillarious that his comments really get so many people upset. We have reached a point of sensitivity that has far-crossed the line of the absurd. I think it's funny that people are actually offended and become uncomfortable b/c someone mentions God or even...*gasps* J.C! I mean, how dare someone shove their beliefs down our throats! *rolls eyes*