Mos Def Arrested While Performing 'Katrina Clap' outside the VMAs

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  • Well thats easy to doubt tho, because its easy to doubt that they'd even be there doing that. And besides, if they did want to do something like that, Im sure their manager would have enough brains to find out if a permit was needed prior to. So your point is moo.



    ^^^^^^^^^^Joey: its a moo point :p
    oh come on.....

    im pretty sure MICK JAGGER wouldnt have looked into whether or not he would have needed a permit.....hehehehehe
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  • Well thats easy to doubt tho, because its easy to doubt that they'd even be there doing that. And besides, if they did want to do something like that, Im sure their manager would have enough brains to find out if a permit was needed prior to. So your point is moo.



    ^^^^^^^^^^Joey: its a moo point :p

    I think it was supposed to be a surprise type thing, I would think that getting the permit would mess that up. I figured they just thought they would pay a fine. The point that you didn't address is would they have arrested Madonna, Elton John or Clay Aiken for the same thing? It's called a hypothetical question.
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  • I think it was supposed to be a surprise type thing, I would think that getting the permit would mess that up. I figured they just thought they would pay a fine. The point that you didn't address is would they have arrested Madonna, Elton John or Clay Aiken for the same thing? It's called a hypothetical question.
    yes they would have..........

    and mos def wasnt charged.....he was given a summons...............
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    oh come on.....

    im pretty sure MICK JAGGER wouldnt have looked into whether or not he would have needed a permit.....hehehehehe


    the point isn't whether or not mick jagger would get a permit, the question is would they have been arrested?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong wrote:
    the point isn't whether or not mick jagger would get a permit, the question is would they have been arrested?
    yes..
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    yes they would have..........

    and mos def wasnt charged.....he was given a summons...............


    "Rapper and actor Mos Def was arrested Thursday night after performing his song "Katrina Clap" without a permit outside the MTV Video Music Awards"

    sure, he was given a summons AFTER they initially arrested/detained him
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • I think it was supposed to be a surprise type thing, I would think that getting the permit would mess that up. I figured they just thought they would pay a fine. The point that you didn't address is would they have arrested Madonna, Elton John or Clay Aiken for the same thing? It's called a hypothetical question.
    my hypothetical question.......would madonna,elton,clay or mick have been smart enough to get a permit??.....

    unlike that articulate genius mos def........
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    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    yes..

    guess we'll have to agree to disagree

    had u2's 'where the streets have no name' been real you would support them all being arrested?

    should the beatles have been arrested for their rooftop performance which was shut down?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • I think it was supposed to be a surprise type thing, I would think that getting the permit would mess that up. I figured they just thought they would pay a fine. The point that you didn't address is would they have arrested Madonna, Elton John or Clay Aiken for the same thing? It's called a hypothetical question.

    What point is there in answering a question like that? Why do you refuse to answer the question as to whether some other artists (literate non-thugs, so to speak), would have gotten a permit, and avoided the whole problem. Laws are laws, and rules are rules, why should anyone be exempt>?

    If I showed up on that corner and started performing, I know DAMN WELL I'd have been arrested. Thats for sure.
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  • Nor did this post. Guess both of us will be reprimanded. ;)

    for what exactly? calling out your racist troll schtick isn't anything new
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  • my hypothetical question.......would madonna,elton,clay or mick have been smart enough to get a permit??.....

    unlike that articulate genius mos def........

    I'll answer your since you can't seem to answer mine.

    Maybe if they were actually going for a surprise they wouldn't. And even if they just forgot, didn't know or just decided to pay a fine for something that was harmless....does that make them stupid or the police for overreacting about it?
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  • btw, if you need an illiterate thug to educate you on katrina, you probably didnt care to begin with.

    Please remove your head... it is deeply buried within your ass... the ignorance of this statement is staggering
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  • El_Kabong wrote:
    guess we'll have to agree to disagree

    had u2's 'where the streets have no name' been real you would support them all being arrested?

    should the beatles have been arrested for their rooftop performance which was shut down?
    well you tell me.....

    did the beatles or U2 break any laws????

    mos def was given a summons for operating a sound reproduction device without a permit....
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  • I'll answer your since you can't seem to answer mine.

    Maybe if they were actually going for a surprise they wouldn't. And even if they just forgot, didn't know or just decided to pay a fine for something that was harmless....does that make them stupid or the police for overreacting about it?

    Why, do the people who give permits out "ruin hip hop secret performances" as a habit?

    And I'd love to know what both his demeanor and his words were to whichever law enforcement officer initially told them to "get to steppin". Im sure he was calm, cool, articulate, respectful, and a role model to all. Since rappers soooooooooooooooooooo love the po-po.
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  • What point is there in answering a question like that? Why do you refuse to answer the question as to whether some other artists (literate non-thugs, so to speak), would have gotten a permit, and avoided the whole problem. Laws are laws, and rules are rules, why should anyone be exempt>?

    If I showed up on that corner and started performing, I know DAMN WELL I'd have been arrested. Thats for sure.

    Oh, so only illiterate, thug, black rappers are too dumb to get permits? I gotcha. A guy forgets a permit and now he is illiterate and a thug.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • El_Kabong wrote:
    guess we'll have to agree to disagree

    had u2's 'where the streets have no name' been real you would support them all being arrested?

    should the beatles have been arrested for their rooftop performance which was shut down?

    The beatles were on the roof of a private building, that is a little different then being on a public street. And the fact of the matter is this song and its message is getting much more notoriety because of his arrest, so I dont even see his arrest as a bad thing really.
  • Why, do the people who give permits out "ruin hip hop secret performances" as a habit?

    And I'd love to know what both his demeanor and his words were to whichever law enforcement officer initially told them to "get to steppin". Im sure he was calm, cool, articulate, respectful, and a role model to all. Since rappers soooooooooooooooooooo love the po-po.

    You dont know a goddamn thing about hip-hop do you?... besides what you see on MTV...?
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  • I'll answer your since you can't seem to answer mine.

    Maybe if they were actually going for a surprise they wouldn't. And even if they just forgot, didn't know or just decided to pay a fine for something that was harmless....does that make them stupid or the police for overreacting about it?
    cant seem to answer yours????

    im pretty sure i answered it in post #45 of this thread.....i said YES!!!

    they forgot??
    they didnt know???
    or just decided to pay a fine???

    now i wouldnt call what they did stupid......i would call it illegal....and that is why they were arrested.....
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  • Why, do the people who give permits out "ruin hip hop secret performances" as a habit?

    And I'd love to know what both his demeanor and his words were to whichever law enforcement officer initially told them to "get to steppin". Im sure he was calm, cool, articulate, respectful, and a role model to all. Since rappers soooooooooooooooooooo love the po-po.

    Leaks.


    You are assuming things based on your prejudice. No where has reported anything like this. I've read he complied with no problems.

    Now all rappers have to hate the police....geez, stereotype much? is that all you know how to talk in?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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