Mos Def Arrested While Performing 'Katrina Clap' outside the VMAs

brainofPJ

MasterModeler wrote:

heh, he's not a bad actor but I think hes much better behind the mic... he and Talib need to stop fucking around and come out with another BlackStar album...

i have honestly never listened to any of his music. not by choice really, just because i am so consumed with another band.

would it be considered all hip-hop or a combination of that and blues?

MasterFramer

El_Kabong wrote:

what's even funnier is it was PaperPlates who called ME a troll...i asked HOW me asking a simple question; why do you think Mos Def is an illiterate thug? one he refused to answer repeatedly. why get so mad when asked to back up one's beliefs? the 'because i said so!' answer never did it for me

lets not relive the thread... Speedy can go hang out with plates and be scared of people together based on the color of their skin and the clothes they wear...

dg1979us

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

No, I think it speaks for itself.

It only speaks for itself if your are basing society on the one or two posters on this thread who were pretty openly racist. But you cant say it hasnt made strides since the time of segragation or MLK or any of that. I think for the most part racism today is unintentional racism. And unintentional racism is still racism certainly, but it is at least an advancement from more or less having two separate societies among the races.

MasterFramer

brainofPJ wrote:

i have honestly never listened to any of his music. not by choice really, just because i am so consumed with another band.

would it be considered all hip-hop or a combination of that and blues?

WOW... ok first off you need to listen to this album...

BlackStar (with Talib Kwali) the track on here with Common is musical genius... as good as Pearl Jam is rock this trio is Hip Hop

then get Black on Both Sides (first solo album)

his last album is The New Danger and has alot of different stuff on it... a few years back he started a hard core/thrash band called with some members of Bad Brains... they were going to come out with an album and everything. BUT a man by the name Jack Johnson came out and got big and Mos couldn’t release his bands material. Why? Coincidently the band's name was The Black Jack Johnson band But alot of that hard rock stuff is on The New Danger...

its funny I bet most people don’t even know his music and are making judgments on his character... he is a much needed shinning light in this crap shity state of rap music...

SPEEDY MCCREADY

MasterModeler wrote:

lets not relive the thread... Speedy can go hang out with plates and be scared of people together based on the color of their skin and the clothes they wear...

hehehehehehe.................

unreal........

please tell me where i have ever made a fucking statement about anybodys skin color.......please.....

brainofPJ

MasterModeler wrote:

WOW... ok first off you need to listen to this album...

BlackStar (with Talib Kwali)

then get Black on Both Sides (first solo album)

his last album is The New Danger and has alot of different stuff on it... a few years back he started a hard core/thrash band called with some members of Bad Brains... they were going to come out with an album and everything. BUT a man by the name Jack Johnson came out and got big and Mos couldn’t release his bands material. Why? Coincidently the band's name was The Black Jack Johnson band But alot of that hard rock stuff is on The New Danger...

its funny I bet most people don’t even know his music and are making judgments on his character... he is a much needed shinning light in this crap shity state of rap music...

are you f-n kidding me about the jack johnson thing?! that's crazy. i'm headed over to amazon and checking it out.

MasterFramer

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

hehehehehehe.................

unreal........

please tell me where i have ever made a fucking statement about anybodys skin color.......please.....

it was a joke... but you were defending his comments and stances the whole way through...

Abookamongstthemany

dg1979us wrote:

It only speaks for itself if your are basing society on the one or two posters on this thread who were pretty openly racist. But you cant say it hasnt made strides since the time of segragation or MLK or any of that. I think for the most part racism today is unintentional racism. And unintentional racism is still racism certainly, but it is at least an advancement from more or less having two separate societies among the races.

I just wasn't expecting this kinda shit here. If it's like this here then it could be like this all over and I wouldn't know it. I thought people, in general, had moved way past stuff like this.

MasterFramer

brainofPJ wrote:

are you f-n kidding me about the jack johnson thing?! that's crazy. i'm headed over to amazon and checking it out.

yeah it is crazy... I also remember a boot along time ago where Ed talks about watching Bad Brains... so if you needed one there is the Mos Def Pearl Jam connection

MasterFramer

brainofPJ wrote:

are you f-n kidding me about the jack johnson thing?! that's crazy. i'm headed over to amazon and checking it out.

this is amazing... this is the stats on BlackStar

Product Details

* Audio CD (June 4, 2002)
* Original Release Date: August 26, 1998
* Number of Discs: 1
* Format: Explicit Lyrics, Original recording reissued
* Label: Rawkus (Uni)
* ASIN: B000067CLT
* average customer review: based on 100 reviews. (Write a review.)
* Amazon.com Sales Rank: #777 in Music (See Top Sellers in Music)

The review is 5 stars based on 100 reviews... I've never seen that before... not to mention the #777 for amazon for some indie record release 8 years ago...

dg1979us

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

I just wasn't expecting this kinda shit here. If it's like this here then it could be like this all over and I wouldn't know it. I thought people, in general, had moved way past stuff like this.

I think they have. I love reading this board and chiming in on occasion, but I do not find this board representative of society for the most part. Racism certainly exists I am not denying that, but you cant say it hasnt gotten better when just 50 years ago there was more or less a black america and white america living in separate societies. Not to mention that there are millions of white kids whose heros and people they look up to in music or sports or wherever, are african americans.

Abookamongstthemany

dg1979us wrote:

I think they have. I love reading this board and chiming in on occasion, but I do not find this board representative of society for the most part. Racism certainly exists I am not denying that, but you cant say it hasnt gotten better when just 50 years ago there was more or less a black america and white america living in separate societies. Not to mention that there are millions of white kids whose heros and people they look up to in music or sports or wherever, are african americans.

I don't think this board represents society in general either. I thought the people on here would be way above stuff like this. And it's getting worse and worse each year, the things we've overcome are creeping back in.

dg1979us

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

I don't think this board represents society in general either. I thought the people on here would be way above stuff like this. And it's getting worse and worse each year, the things we've overcome are creeping back in.

For the most part this board is above stuff like that. Most of the people that I used to disagree with seemed to be respectable people with respectable opinions, they just had a different viewpoint, which I think is good. I can understand your frustration based on this thread, but I do think we have and still are moving forward with regards to race. Its not perfect by any means, but it is better.

brainofPJ

is it wrong that i don't like racist people?

SPEEDY MCCREADY

the articulate genius poet known as Mos Def......


such moving words.....

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/mosdef/therapeover.html

all white men is runnin this rap shit?????

is it wrong that i dont like rascist people????

Abookamongstthemany

I knew you would like him! Here's some excellent choices as well.

http://www.lyricsdepot.com/mos-def/theives-in-the-night.html

http://www.lyricsdepot.com/mos-def/war.html

Abookamongstthemany

additional info

http://www.hbo.com/defpoetry/about/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mos_Def

El_Kabong

MasterModeler wrote:

this is amazing... this is the stats on BlackStar

Product Details

* Audio CD (June 4, 2002)
* Original Release Date: August 26, 1998
* Number of Discs: 1
* Format: Explicit Lyrics, Original recording reissued
* Label: Rawkus (Uni)
* ASIN: B000067CLT
* average customer review: based on 100 reviews. (Write a review.)
* Amazon.com Sales Rank: #777 in Music (See Top Sellers in Music)

The review is 5 stars based on 100 reviews... I've never seen that before... not to mention the #777 for amazon for some indie record release 8 years ago...

man, i haven't lisented to my blackstar record in a while...guess i'll have to give it a spin on the turntable later

beachdweller

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

They agreed to pack up and they still arrested him.

Really he did nothing that should merit more than a "don't do that; pack up".

Cops tend to have a "don't ask, just beat and arrest" policy with whatever they consider "hippies" or "protests".

yes he did, he broke the law. cops can use discretion, but in this instince you are talking about breaking the law outside an event that brings money to the city, brings focus on the city, they aren't going to play nice in this case, it's common sense.

I think it is rediculous, but it's not surprising

lalalalaaaaaaaa

Good thread. My favorite was someone calling Mos Def an "illiterate thug". Hilarious.

I'm glad he did that performance there. MTV no longer has anything to offer anyone except for souless, shitty pop music.