Anyone watching Chavez's UN speech right now?

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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    Why do you think Bush is full of shit? I thought his speech was dead on. Can you specifically attack his points?


    yes, i can. they are choosing this in bagdhad he says? oh really?

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-04-28-poll-cover_x.htm
    BAGHDAD — Only a third of the Iraqi people now believe that the American-led occupation of their country is doing more good than harm, and a solid majority support an immediate military pullout even though they fear that could put them in greater danger, according to a new USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll. (Graphic: Iraqis surveyed)

    Asked whether they view the U.S.-led coalition as "liberators" or "occupiers," 71% of all respondents say "occupiers." and actually that number goes up to 82% in baghdad!

    That figure reaches 81% if the separatist, pro-U.S. Kurdish minority in northern Iraq is not included.

    only 33% thought hte invasion did more good than harm, 61% think the invasion wasn't worth it

    also,

    CNN’s website says, “[The] National Intelligence Estimate was sent to the White House in July with a classified warning predicting the best case for Iraq was ‘tenuous stability’ and the worst case was civil war.
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    Cite an economic indicator, and I'll listen. I get your theoretical points, but it's not reality. To me, science is objective, and the evidence supports capitalism. But you may be referring to specifics while I'm speaking in generalities. Specifically, how is life under Chavez better than life under Bush? Hell, at least you know when life under Bush will end.


    i thought venezuala was gonna have an election before too long?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    zstillings wrote:
    Damn that guy for causing a hurricane.


    no, damn that guy for his lousy couple day delayed response
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    El_Kabong wrote:
    i thought venezuala was gonna have an election before too long?

    You're probably playing it loose and fast with the word "election" there. But for more info, see:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_presidential_election,_2006

    http://media.netpr.pl/notatka_63976.html
  • jeffer96
    jeffer96 Posts: 136
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - One of President George W. Bush's fiercest political opponents at home took his side on Thursday, calling Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez a "thug" for his remark that Bush is like the devil.

    "Hugo Chavez fancies himself a modern day Simon Bolivar but all he is an everyday thug," House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said at a news conference, referring to Chavez' comments in a U.N. General Assembly speech on Wednesday.

    "Hugo Chavez abused the privilege that he had, speaking at the United Nations," said Pelosi, a frequent Bush critic. "He demeaned himself and he demeaned Venezuela."

    Simon Bolivar led the fight for independence against Spanish rule in several South American countries in the early 19th century and is cited by Chavez as a political model.

    Chavez, a vociferous critic of Bush and the United States, has allied himself with U.S. opponents Cuba and Iran and has led a resurgence of left-wing populism in Latin America.

    "The devil himself is right in the house. And the devil came here yesterday. Right here," Chavez said as he stood at the U.N. podium where Bush spoke the day before.

    "It smells of sulfur still today, this table that I am now standing in front of," Chavez said.

    His remarks drew applause from many of the delegates.

    Bush administration officials have not responded directly to Chavez's remarks.

    "I am not going to dignify a comment by the Venezuelan president to the president of the United States. I think it is not becoming for a head of state," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said on Wednesday.

    http://reuters.myway.com/article/20060921/2006-09-21T164325Z_01_N21334844_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-VENEZUELA-USA-SPAT-DC.html

    I'm glad to read this. I don't agree with Democats very often, but Pelosi hit the nail on the head.

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