Anyone watching Chavez's UN speech right now?

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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    truroute wrote:
    He wouldn't have sounded like a spoiled 5 yr old. But as long as ppl say what you wanna hear, you're al for'em i guess.
    um...ok :rolleyes:

    anyway, would agree this happens both ways...?
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Tivo'd...

    Don't worry, it'll hit youtube soon. Get some popcorn. It's a riot.

    ah tivo, I forgot to set mine.

    and Yeah from the short clip I saw of it on yahoo news, it does seem pretty entertaining.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    MrBrian wrote:
    and Yeah from the short clip I saw of it on yahoo news, it does seem pretty entertaining.

    Everytime I hear him speak, it reminds me of my little neice who, whenever you give her a cookie, carries it around for a long time and then when she eats it, cries because it's gone. It's so damn cute.
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    "Freedom, by its nature, cannot be imposed. It must be chosen. From Beirut to Baghdad, people are making the choice for freedom." G.W Bush

    Everytime I hear this man speak I think of how full of sh*t he really is.....he can go in the same bucket alongside Chavez.....
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Chavez is the man...he backs up his rhetoric with programs...actually gives something back to the have nots, of which there are many in South America.

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0311-08.htm
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Commy wrote:
    Chavez is the man...he backs up his rhetoric with programs...actually gives something back to the have nots, of which there are many in South America.

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0311-08.htm

    At least click on a few of the links other people have posted, dude ...
  • Pickr
    Pickr Posts: 161
    reborncareerist wrote:
    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13989898/site/newsweek/

    http://www.hrw.org/doc?t=americas&c=venezu

    http://www.vcrisis.com/index.php?content=letters/200412161451

    If you like socialist dictatorships with some corruption on the side, he's a great guy. I don't, though.

    Thanks for posting these articles, that is a brutal price to pay for free speech. 40 months in the can for dissing on the prez?

    http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/03/24/venezu10368.htm
    Stix and Stones may break my bones, but More than Words will never hurt me.
  • VivaPalestina
    VivaPalestina Posts: 225
    Chavez may be paranoid and has attacked Bush, but I think he has every right to be and to do so. The US government has a history of intefering in Central and South America for the sole benefit of the US and at the risk of their governments and people. He has been attacked and criticized likewise by the US and if one is not in favor with the US, then the future for the ruling government can be a hard and long one. Why should any world government be concerned and paranoid about another, they should save that time and energy toward important issues such as human rights, etc. One of the reasons it is always wrong to intefere with sovereign nations. Missing is just really a great film from a while back and true story and just is an example of the abhorrent actions that the US has committed in South America.
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    "Freedom, by its nature, cannot be imposed. It must be chosen. From Beirut to Baghdad, people are making the choice for freedom." G.W Bush

    Everytime I hear this man speak I think of how full of sh*t he really is.....he can go in the same bucket alongside Chavez.....

    Why do you think Bush is full of shit? I thought his speech was dead on. Can you specifically attack his points?

    Also, Chavez brought religion into his speech...which is pretty offensive. I'm not sure why you guys aren't upset about that. Please elaborate.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Drew263 wrote:
    ahhh Chavez...quite the humanitarian he is...poor citizens but filthy rich gov't. I guess a billion a month or so in oil revenue isn't enough to do something for his country besides by weapons.


    Then he's no worse than the devil.
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Commy wrote:
    Chavez is the man...he backs up his rhetoric with programs...

    Let's fight!
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    Then he's no worse than the devil.

    Why bring religion into public discourse?
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    Let's fight!


    You know, Chavez has is down side, but I don't hink its any worse than it is in the US if you look at objectively.
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Commy wrote:
    You know, Chavez has is down side, but I don't hink its any worse than it is in the US if you look at objectively.

    Cite an economic indicator, and I'll listen. I get your theoretical points, but it's not reality. To me, science is objective, and the evidence supports capitalism. But you may be referring to specifics while I'm speaking in generalities. Specifically, how is life under Chavez better than life under Bush? Hell, at least you know when life under Bush will end.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    Cite an economic indicator, and I'll listen. I get your theoretical points, but it's not reality. To me, science is objective, and the evidence supports capitalism. But you may be referring to specifics while I'm speaking in generalities. Specifically, how is life under Chavez better than life under Bush? Hell, at least you know when life under Bush will end.

    But i'm sure you'll get a very interesting answer about "life under bush" if you ask the many katrina victims.
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    MrBrian wrote:
    But i'm sure you'll get a very interesting answer about "life under bush" if you ask the many katrina victims.

    Damn that guy for causing a hurricane.
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    MrBrian wrote:
    But i'm sure you'll get a very interesting answer about "life under bush" if you ask the many katrina victims.

    why is that the responsibility of Bush as opposed to local government? Why did governments in other areas in the area work better than New Orleans? The Mayor is clueless and the Governor is a dipshit.

    Seriously, you should be a member of the Bill Maher audience. There is no point based in fact or reality, but it jabs the opposition. And that's all that matters.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Really, what's with all this nastiness lately? I'm beginning to think world leaders are assholes...
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    zstillings wrote:
    Damn that guy for causing a hurricane.

    Seriously, it's a Bush-centric world on the left, and they are all revolving around it.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    Really, what's with all this nastiness lately? I'm beginning to think world leaders are assholes...

    I think the nastiness is a function of the polarization within our own country (Republicans hate democrats and vice versa) and we are becoming more polarized world wide, and I really wish Europe would get a clue. I know that comes off as arrogant, but I really don't think Europeans understand our point of view, and I'm sure we have lots to learn from the European point of view. If we can't come together, things are going to be less fucked up.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days

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