why do you believe in God or...

prism

OMG! this thread has been resurrected from the dead.....hallelujah, Jesus Lives!

writersu

soulsinging wrote:

the hale bopp people went from being normal members of society to giving away all their earthly possessions and then committing suicide to catch the alien spaceship behind the comet. if they did not believe that to be true, they would have bailed. is that sufficient to believe they are right?

no, but faith isn't (for me) about getting YOU to believe. I do know a lot of people who claim to be "saved" but I just cannot think that "I" am better than "YOU" because of "ME" and that you are going to hell and I am going to that wonderful all inclusive island in the sky;"heaven". That is pompous bullshit. But I think that if someone asks me about my beliefs I will meekly respond to them about "my" experience and allow them to be intelligent enough to decide for themselves.

so, in regard to your alien stuff, you are misunderstanding my answer which was in no way trying to get anyone to believe what I believe because of what "I" believe. That is not what the thread asked initially. It just asked what we thought.

justam

catefrances wrote:

...why don't you, if that is the case.


i am an atheist. i don't believe in a God cause it makes absolutely no sense to me. this has been the case since i was 11 years old. religion does not give me the answers i require.

cate,

I was raised Catholic so...I believe there's something...not sure if God exists but I believe in Goodness...I believe that it's important to give love to others...I don't know if there's a heaven or hell, in fact, I don't really worry about those places but...I try to add to the world because I think it's the right thing to do!!

FinsburyParkCarrots

Because I hate Richard Dawkins. That's why.

soulsinging

writersu wrote:

no, but faith isn't (for me) about getting YOU to believe. I do know a lot of people who claim to be "saved" but I just cannot think that "I" am better than "YOU" because of "ME" and that you are going to hell and I am going to that wonderful all inclusive island in the sky;"heaven". That is pompous bullshit. But I think that if someone asks me about my beliefs I will meekly respond to them about "my" experience and allow them to be intelligent enough to decide for themselves.

so, in regard to your alien stuff, you are misunderstanding my answer which was in no way trying to get anyone to believe what I believe because of what "I" believe. That is not what the thread asked initially. It just asked what we thought.

fair enough. just curious. i had a campus crusader push a book on me that used "martyrdom" as evidence that jesus had to have been god. that's not what you're getting at though, which is cool. i feel the same way about my own faith, though jesus doesn't factor into mine at all.

gue_barium

I credit about 99% of my faith to my penis. I spend the other 1% trying to get people to believe in my penis.

keeponrockin

My fathers religious views (according to his facebook): 'Peace'

I like that.

catefrances

writersu wrote:

ok just because you asked.........

I believe in God because I cannot imagine how the whole world could be in sync for no reason. By "world" I mean, nature not mankind who always screw up the world.

And I believe in Jesus because of the apostle Paul, who killed Christians and then saw the risen Jesus and changed his mind totally about the whole thing. He then led a life of total chaos and still preached about Jesus and what He taught us. If he did not believe it to be true, he would have bailed. That said, though religion does not have anything to do with God although many people think it does. Religion is about rituals and faith is about living. Jesus came and told the Pharisees, "You have the rules right but your hearts are hard." (not a quote just a wrap up of what he said)

I am currently not attending church. My ex goes there and he was a total bastard---still is

he gives church a bad name.........

i believe jesus was a real person. ive never doubted it.

gue_barium

writersu wrote:

ok just because you asked.........

I believe in God because I cannot imagine how the whole world could be in sync for no reason. By "world" I mean, nature not mankind who always screw up the world.

And I believe in Jesus because of the apostle Paul, who killed Christians and then saw the risen Jesus and changed his mind totally about the whole thing. He then led a life of total chaos and still preached about Jesus and what He taught us. If he did not believe it to be true, he would have bailed. That said, though religion does not have anything to do with God although many people think it does. Religion is about rituals and faith is about living. Jesus came and told the Pharisees, "You have the rules right but your hearts are hard." (not a quote just a wrap up of what he said)

I am currently not attending church. My ex goes there and he was a total bastard---still is

he gives church a bad name.........

Part of the problem is that there are people who believe themselves to be a seperate entity outside of nature. Mankind doesn't screw the world up, as you say, they screw it up for themselves.
Also, my penis is named Jesus.

Danimal

We'll see who you are praying to on your death bed...

And if you say you aren't going to be praying to anyone when you are dying then that means you are not scared and if you say you aren't scared then you are a fucking liar.

(I don't go to church by the way)

Anon

Danimal wrote:

We'll see who you are praying to on your death bed...

And if you say you aren't going to praying to anyone when you are dying that means you are not scared and if you say you aren't scared then you are a fucking liar.

(I don't go to church by the way)

well yeah that's all well and good if you know you are going to die. lot's of people don't. here one minute, gone the next.

writersu

Danimal wrote:

We'll see who you are praying to on your death bed...

And if you say you aren't going to praying to anyone when you are dying that means you are not scared and if you say you aren't scared then you are a fucking liar.

(I don't go to church by the way)

Thanks for being bold enough to write so much honesty in how you feel.

This thread (without knowing it would get here) is much like the "nice guys finish last" thread. Here I was, just answering the question as politely as I could and some others get all mad and ignorant. I didn't bash them for their non belief or the guy above me with the penis issue.........which sorry, dude, but if you're going to call your penis Jesus it had better be superhuman and rise from the dead...............

gue_barium

Danimal wrote:

We'll see who you are praying to on your death bed...

And if you say you aren't going to praying to anyone when you are dying that means you are not scared and if you say you aren't scared then you are a fucking liar.

(I don't go to church by the way)

I had a moment a few years ago when I got so sick with something I actually thought I was going to die. My thoughts were very calm about it all. I was ready as I'll ever be. I just kind of shrugged to myself and said, 'guess this is it."
I'm not a liar.

gue_barium

writersu wrote:

Thanks for being bold enough to write so much honesty in how you feel.

This thread (without knowing it would get here) is much like the "nice guys finish last" thread. Here I was, just answering the question as politely as I could and some others get all mad and ignorant. I didn't bash them for their non belief or the guy above me with the penis issue.........which sorry, dude, but if you're going to call your penis Jesus it had better be superhuman and rise from the dead...............

Thanks for giving it praise when you can.

writersu

gue_barium wrote:

Thanks for giving it praise when you can.

yes,I always praise dead penis'. Just for the memories........




and the remote control is a HUGE phallic symbol, why????????

gue_barium

writersu wrote:

yes,I always praise dead penis'. Just for the memories........




and the remote control is a HUGE phallic symbol, why????????

Hey, stick to the topic of Jesus. This is a civil message board.

writersu

gue_barium wrote:

Hey, stick to the topic of Jesus. This is a civil message board.

touche'

gue_barium

writersu wrote:

touche'

That tickles Jesus.

writersu

gue_barium wrote:

That tickles Jesus.

you have a sick sense of humor..............that I find hilarious.......

o0h, shit hell is waiting for me.............at least ozzy will be there......

harmless_little_f***

I believe in God, try to follow what Jesus taught (not very well most of the time) but am disillusioned with organised religion; I don't think it was ever supposed to be 'organised' or 'religious'. I have strong beliefs but get frustrated with some of the narrow-mindedness of my fellow believers.

Faith can stand alongside science and history, but it all depends on how you choose to read your religious text. If you read the Bible as if it's a science or history textbook, you're going to shoot yourself in the foot and tie yourself in knots because most of the writers never intended it to be read that way.