If you guys cared about cops as much as you claim you do, you would be more upset when incidents occur in which a police officer has committed a criminal act, rather than trying to write it off as civilians simply not understanding how tough their job is. Police officers are, regardless of popular belief on both sides, actually humans. They are not automatically saints. There are those "police officers" who have raped and maimed the trust of the people until you get what we have. An undying hate and untrust in all police officers. You can not blame a person for becoming resistant to police when they see numerous incidents in which police abuse their power. Nor or they automatically pigs. There are cops out there who save lives, protect people, and respect the laws they are sworn to protect. They work hard to make sure they're doing their best and they try to restore the reputation that some of their "brothers" have quickly, and efficiently killed.
One of the better posts I've seen in this thread... although you forgot to add that most of their "brothers" do more good than the few incidents which are highly publicized can ever subtract from.
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hey Commy... go FUCK yourself from the citizens of Philadelphia and the men and women in blue who go out every day and try to make a difference in this city and protect people from the very criminals you wish to glorify.
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One of the better posts I've seen in this thread... although you forgot to add that most of their "brothers" do more good than the few incidents which are highly publicized can ever subtract from.
But those incidents that do occur outshine those good acts because of who is committing the foul. It's not publicized when a police officer gets a drunk driver off the road because, simply, it's expected. But when a police officer uses excessive force, harasses civilians, breaks laws, etc...of course it's going to come under harsh and merciless scrutiny because we expect more from them.
But those incidents that do occur outshine those good acts because of who is committing the foul. It's not publicized when a police officer gets a drunk driver off the road because, simply, it's expected. But when a police officer uses excessive force, harasses civilians, breaks laws, etc...of course it's going to come under harsh and merciless scrutiny because we expect more from them.
of course it's publicized because the public expects officers to be super human and as you said.. they are only human....
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of course it's publicized because the public expects officers to be super human and as you said.. they are only human....
Not super human. But mentally stable enough to handle the immense authority at their disposable and to be able to handle the immense stress that comes with such a job.
hey Commy... go FUCK yourself from the citizens of Philadelphia and the men and women in blue who go out every day and try to make a difference in this city and protect people from the very criminals you wish to glorify.
from one of the most corrupt PD's in the US I'll take that as a compliment.
The one clear thing here and what has been a consistent pattern at the MT, for the PC Apologist Extremists:
Make excuses for, feverishly attempt to justify and steadfastly defend all criminals and criminal actions no matter how hideous....how repulsive the crime.
Yeah, just make sure you don't start generalizing
Anyway, I never said all cops are assholes, I said the cops that are assholes are assholes and I don't give a damn how stressful or dangerous their job is. If they can't handle the pressure, they're not the right kind of people to be in this job. So they can get lost.
Criminal actions always have a context, you're right about that and I never claimed otherwise (but then again, I think most of your post isn't really aimed at me).
But I do understand the other point of view. There is definitely outrage when people start shooting in crowds etc. The OP will agree. But add to that moreviolence[/i].... More brutality...
I'm not just talking about this case, I've witnessed this up close, friends of mine have been kicked and stomped on by police. For no good or justifibale reason at all. A cop like that gets zero respect from me.
And I think these things happen too often. Also, I'm disliking the police more and more not just because of this but for a number a reasons.
hey Commy... go FUCK yourself from the citizens of Philadelphia and the men and women in blue who go out every day and try to make a difference in this city and protect people from the very criminals you wish to glorify.
the citizenz of philly feel different. read a book-study current events. the most violent gang in philly seems to be the philly pd. simply based on the numbers,
the citizenz of philly feel different. read a book-study current events. the most violent gang in philly seems to be the philly pd. simply based on the numbers,
why do I need to read a book or study current events??? I LIVE in this city and I know that the most violent gang here isn't the police dept. So you can listen to and read whatever you want but I'll take actual real world experience over your "numbers" anyday.
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why do I need to read a book or study current events??? I LIVE in this city and I know that the most violent gang here isn't the police dept. So you can listen to and read whatever you want but I'll take actual real world experience over your "numbers" anyday.
And you represent the entire population of Philly?
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from one of the most corrupt PD's in the US I'll take that as a compliment.
This is true and one of the reasons why Philly hired the former head of Washington DC Police Dept tp run Philly's dept. trying to clean things up, He was decent here but appeared to become too much of a political entity here in DC.
However being in Washington maybe that's how Chief Ramsey had to run that Dept. His replacement I've met personally is I believe the first female to head a major city PD.
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ha you're still not getting the point.
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of course it's publicized because the public expects officers to be super human and as you said.. they are only human....
I don't expect them to be super human, I expect them to do their jobs. I know they are only human and that they can make mistakes. But using unjustified violence, breaking the law they're supposed to uphold is a pretty big mistake if you ask me and should not go unpunished because "they're only human." I mean, if they get a free pass because that, that why doesn't everyone? The same goes for the "stressful and dangerous job" excuse. It's not a free pass. They are not above the law.
I don't expect them to be super human, I expect them to do their jobs. I know they are only human and that they can make mistakes. But using unjustified violence, breaking the law they're supposed to uphold is a pretty big mistake if you ask me and should not go unpunished because "they're only human." I mean, if they get a free pass because that, that why doesn't everyone? The same goes for the "stressful and dangerous job" excuse. It's not a free pass. They are not above the law.
yes YES exactly. Thank you
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why do I need to read a book or study current events??? I LIVE in this city and I know that the most violent gang here isn't the police dept. So you can listen to and read whatever you want but I'll take actual real world experience over your "numbers" anyday.
I love when people read books and that makes them experts. I guess taking a couple joke criminology classes at an Ivy League school for easy A's makes me an expert too then more than the fact I've lived here 30 years.
I love when people read books and that makes them experts. I guess taking a couple joke criminology classes at an Ivy League school for easy A's makes me an expert too then more than the fact I've lived here 30 years.
While I would never claim to be an expert on this stuff doesn't reading books, and taking courses that focus on the criminal elements of any part of society help? Are you advocating weighing all/most of your social/personal beliefs merely on personal experience? I don't doubt that you live and know Philly well, but are there parts you've had little experience with?
I guess, for me, living in downtown Baltimore on its de facto Mason-Dixon line (Fayette Street) there are things that I know about this city and there are things that I don't. I've also read academic books, and journal articles about the place which have further augmented my understanding of things that I knew nothing about even though I live here. To me making fun of knowledge gained about a particular place from ANY courses (from conservative economics instructors to liberal sociologists) seems just as silly as putting all of one's eggs in a basket based on "personal experience"...maybe that's just me.
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One of the better posts I've seen in this thread... although you forgot to add that most of their "brothers" do more good than the few incidents which are highly publicized can ever subtract from.
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hey Commy... go FUCK yourself from the citizens of Philadelphia and the men and women in blue who go out every day and try to make a difference in this city and protect people from the very criminals you wish to glorify.
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But those incidents that do occur outshine those good acts because of who is committing the foul. It's not publicized when a police officer gets a drunk driver off the road because, simply, it's expected. But when a police officer uses excessive force, harasses civilians, breaks laws, etc...of course it's going to come under harsh and merciless scrutiny because we expect more from them.
of course it's publicized because the public expects officers to be super human and as you said.. they are only human....
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Not super human. But mentally stable enough to handle the immense authority at their disposable and to be able to handle the immense stress that comes with such a job.
Yeah, just make sure you don't start generalizing
Anyway, I never said all cops are assholes, I said the cops that are assholes are assholes and I don't give a damn how stressful or dangerous their job is. If they can't handle the pressure, they're not the right kind of people to be in this job. So they can get lost.
Criminal actions always have a context, you're right about that and I never claimed otherwise (but then again, I think most of your post isn't really aimed at me).
But I do understand the other point of view. There is definitely outrage when people start shooting in crowds etc. The OP will agree. But add to that moreviolence[/i].... More brutality...
I'm not just talking about this case, I've witnessed this up close, friends of mine have been kicked and stomped on by police. For no good or justifibale reason at all. A cop like that gets zero respect from me.
And I think these things happen too often. Also, I'm disliking the police more and more not just because of this but for a number a reasons.
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why do I need to read a book or study current events??? I LIVE in this city and I know that the most violent gang here isn't the police dept. So you can listen to and read whatever you want but I'll take actual real world experience over your "numbers" anyday.
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And you represent the entire population of Philly?
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This is true and one of the reasons why Philly hired the former head of Washington DC Police Dept tp run Philly's dept. trying to clean things up, He was decent here but appeared to become too much of a political entity here in DC.
However being in Washington maybe that's how Chief Ramsey had to run that Dept. His replacement I've met personally is I believe the first female to head a major city PD.
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ha you're still not getting the point.
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I don't expect them to be super human, I expect them to do their jobs. I know they are only human and that they can make mistakes. But using unjustified violence, breaking the law they're supposed to uphold is a pretty big mistake if you ask me and should not go unpunished because "they're only human." I mean, if they get a free pass because that, that why doesn't everyone? The same goes for the "stressful and dangerous job" excuse. It's not a free pass. They are not above the law.
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yes YES exactly. Thank you
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I love when people read books and that makes them experts. I guess taking a couple joke criminology classes at an Ivy League school for easy A's makes me an expert too then more than the fact I've lived here 30 years.
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I guess, for me, living in downtown Baltimore on its de facto Mason-Dixon line (Fayette Street) there are things that I know about this city and there are things that I don't. I've also read academic books, and journal articles about the place which have further augmented my understanding of things that I knew nothing about even though I live here. To me making fun of knowledge gained about a particular place from ANY courses (from conservative economics instructors to liberal sociologists) seems just as silly as putting all of one's eggs in a basket based on "personal experience"...maybe that's just me.
Sorry just reread your post...I think we agree.