Abortion
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I am completely for a woman's right to choose. Completely. But it seems there are even some within the prochoice movement who believe after a certain amount of months or trimesters, that that power should be taken away from women.
Am I odd in being for abortion ANYTIME in a pregnancy. Anytime. I dont think after the third trimester it should be outlawed.
The way I see it your for abortion or your not for it. I am for it. So abortion anytime during the pregnancy seems fair
Am I odd in being for abortion ANYTIME in a pregnancy. Anytime. I dont think after the third trimester it should be outlawed.
The way I see it your for abortion or your not for it. I am for it. So abortion anytime during the pregnancy seems fair
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I myself am pro-choice, but if it were a decision I had to make, I don't think I'd have the heart to kill it.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
So, abortion in the 3rd trimester, to me, is basically like slaughtering a little baby.
Rewind back to the first trimester, say less than 3 weeks into pregnancy, and it's basically an armless, legless, organless blob of human tissue.
So, the moral dilemma with people who are Pro-Choice is when does the human being become more than just a blob of human tissue and when is it acceptable to abort it and when is it not.
Personally, I would never have an abortion and I'm all for outlawing abortion in the third trimester, fact, as far as I know, it is already illegal in Canada.
kidding!.. that's sarcasm.
A Zygote, but before it reaches the uterus and becomes impregnated in the uteran wall (Pregnancy) it becomes a Blastocyst, which is a shell of cells with an Intracellular Mass (ICM).
lol Yes. I for one have an eye for it.
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Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
Wouldn't it be easier to just let the baby come out, then chop its head off with a bread slicer?
I mean, seriously.
for the least they could possibly do
http://www.cerebralpalsychildren.com/CP1.jpg
You can see the Zygote and Blastocyst diagrams on the left side. You can see the difference between those, an Embryo and a Fetus and the different organs that develop at the different stages.
This is called prenatal (before birth) development.
Ooops sorry, no that is seconds after conception. Seconds before it's born it is a Fetus. I don't exactly agree with Fetal abortion.
Well... If you're going to do it that way, atleast it's quick. And to some people, that's just ethical enough.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
I have a sick sense of sarcastic humor tonight. Forgive me.
See, when they do stem-cell research. They take that Blastocyst, which is the second diagram from the top on the far left.
Here is another diagram
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/93/Blastocyst.jpg/300px-Blastocyst.jpg
Then they extract the ICM and put it in a dish.
That's basically it.
It's not like they pull out a live fetus and cut it's head off and all that shit they put on southpark.
And the last time I watched ER, when someones heart stops beating, they die. Which of course means they were previously alive...
Excuse my ignorance.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
Right. That's sarcasm. Actually they grab fetuses from a sack, snap the neck and suck out the juice.
If it were actually that easy I would seriously consider it if I had a disease.
No seriously...
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Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
Well, there is evidence that humans learn while in the prenatal environment. That wouldn't be prior to brain development though.
But in the case of the heart, the umbilical cord and the placenta keep the embryo alive. The fetus' organs don't take over until they've pretty much all developed.
I'll admit I'm not totally knowledgeable when it comes to abortion. I'm much better with the development. Though I know that some types of abortion are pretty fucking nasty.
Im pretty sure they are all pretty fucking nasty.
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i think the last thing going through a womens mind who is getting an abortion is the fetal developement
It seems to me the antithesis of prochoice to be against abortion in the third trimester. Your for abortion or against it as I said previously.
To be prochoice but to be against it during the third trimester seems silly and I dont know why people would call themselves for a womens right to choose if this is what they felt.
A woman should have a right to choose what to do. If this means getting an abortion in the third trimester, then that should be alright.
Well... When a person enters into a coma, machines are used to keep the human body functioning properly. Simply put, it keeps them alive. An umbilical cord of sorts. When the plug is pulled, the person dies.
I'm against abortion btw.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
just like you're not totally knowledgeable about what it's like to be pregnant.
take a good look
this could be the day
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lie beside me
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I don't know anyone that condones third trimester abortions and as I said, I'm pretty sure it's illegal in Canada. There may be some exceptions.
Most Pro-Choice supporters are against third trimester abortions.
Point?
i would think most people would have their minds made up before that point...
i am pro-choice - but i fear that some people use the procedure as a form of birth control instead of being reasonable and protecting themselves against pregnancy...hail, hail the abstinence education.
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Why stop there? Why not let the woman have the baby, then drown it in a river? Or feed it to wolverines? Or sell it?
After all, a woman should have the right to do whatever she wants, eh?
A woman (or anybody) should have a right to choose what to do, so long as it doesn't harm another living human being.
You could argue that abortion in the third trimester harms a living human being. Since, you know, a premature baby born at that point can live on its own.
Nothing illustrates absurdity more than this: You can go to a hospital, and in one room doctors will be frantically trying to save a premature baby the same "age" as fetus they just aborted in the room next door.
Doesn't make sense to me. But you know, I'm kind of dense.
for the least they could possibly do
I absolutely know what it's like being pregnant! I was a pregnancy once. Excuse me, but I know pregnancy inside and out! With a concentration on the inside.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States#Public_opinion
The odd thing I've found is that while there may be many who are pro-choice, hardly any of those same people would actually have an abortion themselves. For numerous reasons including the one you've given.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08