To All That Think Immediate Troop Withdrawal Would Be A Good Idea...

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  • binauralonthecape
    binauralonthecape Posts: 257
    macgyver06 wrote:
    your fucking insane and stupid. dangerous combo man.... wtf does this even mean??? Dirty Work???
    fighting islamic fascism...its been going on for a few years now, check your local newspaper...
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    binauralonthecape wrote:
    we're showing the world a very clear message: you fuck with us, and you'll get fucked, hard...i like being on our side....

    It's just that you're also fucking yourselves in the process. Nice job you're doing.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    binauralonthecape wrote:
    oh yeah, you live in england, keep letting us do all the dirty work and you and your country keep talking while we keep doing

    Do you seriously think anyone in the world is impressed with American foriegn policy?
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but your government have made America the most hated country in the world. Most people just think you're nothing but a bunch of cunts.
  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,924
    we started it, we damn well better finish it the right way

    what does that mean?

    we don't abandon those who helped us and supported us to be murdered by extremists

    we leave Iraq/Afgan a better place than when we came in

    we tell the governments of both countries start doing something or we will not continue to spend american lives and money

    we leave a government than can govern and continue in a democratic fashion


    now the billion dollar question is what is the best way to do all this?

    Can we ever leave without is being considered a defeat? Is there an attainable goal that would be considered a victory? If we went there to find WMD's we have already lost, if we went there to make Iraq a safe and democratic country we have a lot of work to do still.

    I am not in favor of the McCain 100 year plan, I am also not in favor of the lets start leaving right away plan.

    Obama has put it as good as it can be stated(I think this is the quote I may have a word off ): We have to leave Iraq as carefully as we went in carelessly.


    now can any of this occur with factions that just don't want to get along?

    I still think the only reason we are in Iraq is because Saddam put a hit out on GHWB, and Jr. had to exact his revenge.
  • binauralonthecape
    binauralonthecape Posts: 257
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    we started it, we damn well better finish it the right way

    what does that mean?

    we don't abandon those who helped us and supported us to be murdered by extremists

    we leave Iraq/Afgan a better place than when we came in

    we tell the governments of both countries start doing something or we will not continue to spend american lives and money

    we leave a government than can govern and continue in a democratic fashion


    now the billion dollar question is what is the best way to do all this?

    Can we ever leave without is being considered a defeat? Is there an attainable goal that would be considered a victory? If we went there to find WMD's we have already lost, if we went there to make Iraq a safe and democratic country we have a lot of work to do still.

    I am not in favor of the McCain 100 year plan, I am also not in favor of the lets start leaving right away plan.

    Obama has put it as good as it can be stated(I think this is the quote I may have a word off ): We have to leave Iraq as carefully as we went in carelessly.


    now can any of this occur with factions that just don't want to get along?

    I still think the only reason we are in Iraq is because Saddam put a hit out on GHWB, and Jr. had to exact his revenge.
    nice, thoughtful post, i agree with just about everything you said.
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  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    binauralonthecape wrote:
    i hear about democrats promising their supporters that the first thing they will do in office is get the troops out of iraq, how does this train of thought even make sense, and why do any of you agree with it??

    Because that is what the Iraqi people want.
  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    binauralonthecape wrote:
    fighting islamic fascism...its been going on for a few years now, check your local newspaper...

    We are fighting for the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq. I checked it.
  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    Byrnzie wrote:
    It was predicted by top U.S advisors before the invasion of Iraq that the invasion would significantly increase terrorism in the world.

    Turns out that is what has happened.
  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    binauralonthecape wrote:
    we're showing the world a very clear message: you fuck with us, and you'll get fucked, hard...i like being on our side....

    The result has been a recruiting boom for islamic radicals. While US military recruiting has become more difficult.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Do you seriously think anyone in the world is impressed with American foriegn policy?
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but your government have made America the most hated country in the world. Most people just think you're nothing but a bunch of cunts.

    actually its just guys like you who hate america.

    you paint with a wide brush. "most" people in the world hate us huh?
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    jlew24asu wrote:
    actually its just guys like you who hate america.

    you paint with a wide brush. "most" people in the world hate us huh?
    According to a recent Gallop international poll the majority of those polled in Europe felt that America was the biggest threat to world peace. Iraq was on the list, Iran, North Korea, etc. The US was on top by a wide margin.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    actually its just guys like you who hate america.

    you paint with a wide brush. "most" people in the world hate us huh?

    Debating anything with you is the equivalent of pissing in the wind, or attempting to house train a monkey. You invariably end up watching a monkey chattering shit and spraying piss over itself.
    Nothing constructive ever comes of it.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    jlew24asu wrote:
    actually its just guys like you who hate america.

    you paint with a wide brush. "most" people in the world hate us huh?

    actually i detest everything about american foreign policy. i do not hate america.


    and i would wager a bet that anyone with a knowledge of US foreign policy and US political history would be painted with that brush. an extreme amount of people have no clue what the US has gotten up to around the world and if they do then tis quite possible theyve been led to believe it was for the greater good, which we all know is total bullshit.
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  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    catefrances wrote:
    an extreme amount of people have no clue what the US has gotten up to around the world and if they do then tis quite possible theyve been led to believe it was for the greater good, which we all know is total bullshit.

    I would point such a person to look at the CIA's involvement in Central America during the Regan years for a good start of what our government's foreign policy is capable of.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    MasterFramer wrote:
    I would point such a person to look at the CIA's involvement in Central America during the Regan years for a good start of what our government's foreign policy is capable of.


    just as an appetiser for sure. ;):D
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    we are eternally beloved among the peoples of the world, i have no idea what you all are talking about.....peace and love at the barrell of a gun goes a long way...
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Debating anything with you is the equivalent of pissing in the wind, or attempting to house train a monkey. You invariably end up watching a monkey chattering shit and spraying piss over itself.
    Nothing constructive ever comes of it.

    are you googling witty message board comebacks? if not, I would suggest it. your frequent personal attacks on people are boring. and outright stupid
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    catefrances wrote:
    actually i detest everything about american foreign policy. i do not hate america.
    everything? do you detest our policy on giving billions in aid to foreign countries that need it?

    catefrances wrote:
    and i would wager a bet that anyone with a knowledge of US foreign policy and US political history would be painted with that brush. an extreme amount of people have no clue what the US has gotten up to around the world and if they do then tis quite possible theyve been led to believe it was for the greater good, which we all know is total bullshit.

    I disagree. the US has done many great things around the world. we are a great country. its not my problem that you and your boyfriend bzyine choose to ignore it.

    sure america isnt perfect, far from it actually. but we have done much good.
  • Magstar
    Magstar Posts: 117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    everything? do you detest our policy on giving billions in aid to foreign countries that need it?




    I disagree. the US has done many great things around the world. we are a great country. its not my problem that you and your boyfriend bzyine choose to ignore it.

    sure america isnt perfect, far from it actually. but we have done much good.
    The last bit... well said. :)

    As for the thing up this page about the monkey: SOMEBODY'S a little dramatic. :p
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Debating anything with you is the equivalent of pissing in the wind, or attempting to house train a monkey. You invariably end up watching a monkey chattering shit and spraying piss over itself.
    Nothing constructive ever comes of it.

    you hate america, americans, Israel, and Israelis. you have admitted several times on this board. you've made that quit clear. so what is there to really debate about?

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