What's up with Fox news?

jlew24asu

Jeanwah wrote:

HA Ha. Hello...The Fox network is Bush-biased...whatever Bush says, Fox agrees with.

I'm done arguing with you, you have already been owed by slightofjeff.

as for this comment, fox did nothing more then the rest of the networks........ report what bush was saying at the time.

Jeanwah

slightofjeff wrote:

Um, I work in the media, and I can say unequivocally that this is total bs. The government does not control what the media reports. Read the NY Times, the Washington Post, etc etc ... and tell me the messages and information they report about the war reflects what the Bush administration wants you to hear.

You gave an example of the government censoring a NASA official. A NASA official is not a journalist. A NASA official is a government employee. If you want to write an article stating your boss or your company is completely ignorant, it would probably get censored too.

Then why aren't soldiers flag-draped coffins not allowed in the media? Why aren't personal soldier stories released to the public so as to educate and develop empathy with them? (I have to go to PBS to find these!) Perhaps we'd get a little too close to the realities of war and that would make even more Americans wary of the Iraq war. Why doesn't the media report more about the war? I'm not talking about stats of how many were killed today, I'm talking details. The journalists from the Vietnam era were there, cameramen were there. The realities of War were there. The U.S. gov't does not allow the media to report the realities so as to keep us in the dark, and allows Bush to move on with his agenda. It is a fact that no one in the military is allowed to talk to a reporter without serious reprimand. WHY? What do they have to hide? Oh, that's right. The TRUTH.

If the media is not controlled by the gov't, they'd be able to report freely, like in the past. But they don't. Journalists aren't what they used to be; digging deep to uncover the real story or expose scandal in gov't. Since Judith Miller wouldn't expose her source in the Plame case, and was jailed for it, it's just the beginning of the gov't's control over the media.

jlew24asu

Jeanwah wrote:

Then why aren't soldiers flag-draped coffins not allowed in the media? Why aren't personal soldier stories released to the public soas to educate and develop empathy with them?

to protect the families of those who lost loved ones. they dont need keith olberman showing the bodies of dead soldiers to get his agenda across that this war is bad.

Jeanwah wrote:

Perhaps we'd get a little too close to the realities of war and that would make even more Americans wary of the Iraq war.

everyone is fully aware of the realities of war.

Jeanwah wrote:

Why doesn't the media report more about the war? I'm not talking about stats of how many were killed today, I'm talking details.

I see details all the time.

Jeanwah wrote:

The journalists from the Vietnam era were there, cameramen were there. The realities of War were there.

embedded journalists is something was happens with almost every team of soldiers that goes out.

Jeanwah wrote:

The U.S. gov't does not allow the media to report the realities so as to keep us in the dark, and allows Bush to move on with his agenda.

the media seems to be doing a piss poor job then. I see plenty of anti war anti bush commonetary DAILY. no wait, HOURLY. and thats a good thing.

Jeanwah wrote:

It is a fact that no one in the military is allowed to talk to a reporter without serious reprimand.

no its not

qwerty1

jlew24asu wrote:

its a big waste of time but work is slow this morning.

your going to have to give a better explaination then that. pandering to me? how when someone straps a bomb to themselves and intentionally blows themselves up in front off woman and children with the absolute goal of committing homicide, how is that not homicide?

sorry I dont sympathize with their cause as much as you

Every bombing that kills someone is a homicide bombing. Not all bombings are suicide bombings. There is a difference. Calling a suicide bombing a "homicide bombing" muddies the waters of reality.

Do you work for FOX?

Jeanwah

jlew24asu wrote:

to protect the families of those who lost loved ones. they dont need keith olberman showing the bodies of dead soldiers to get his agenda across that this war is bad....

Showing the draped coffins is a show of respect. And it is not allowed in the media

everyone is fully aware of the realities of war.

And how so? The only details we get are numbers. Everyone's a number. Doesn't say anything realistic.

I see details all the time.

Name one.

embedded journalists is something was happens with almost every team of soldiers that goes out.[/quote]
Yet, we get no real news from them.

the media seems to be doing a piss poor job then. I see plenty of anti war anti bush commonetary DAILY. no wait, HOURLY. and thats a good thing.

Yet, you don't see it ALL. There's much more going on that you hear about.

no its not

YES, it is. Ask anyone in the military. You don't know what you're talking about.

jlew24asu

qwerty wrote:

Every bombing that kills someone is a homicide bombing.

ok cool

qwerty wrote:

Not all bombings are suicide bombings.

but his/her intention is the same. if it wasnt could they just have put a gun to their head? why should he get a free pass because he failed at killing people?

qwerty wrote:

There is a difference. Calling a suicide bombing a "homicide bombing" muddies the waters of reality.

no there is no difference. the only difference between you and me and the way we see this is I (and fox) emphasizes the effect of the attacks rather than using the term “suicide” which emphasizes the sacrifice of the bombers

jlew24asu

Jeanwah wrote:

Showing the draped coffins is a show of respect. And it is not allowed in the media

And how so? The only details we get are numbers. Everyone's a number. Doesn't say anything realistic.

Name one.

embedded journalists is something was happens with almost every team of soldiers that goes out
Yet, we get no real news from them.

Yet, you don't see it ALL. There's much more going on that you hear about.

YES, it is. Ask anyone in the military. You don't know what you're talking about.

already dude we obviously dont watch the same news. I flip back from fox, cnn, msbnc and browse multiple websites for news stories. I have no clue what you watch. nor do I care.

bootlegger10

chiefojibwa wrote:

and, fer christsakes, labeling suicide bombers "homicide bombers" is just pandering to their mouth-breathing audience. it's akin to calling french fries "freedom fries". i can't believe i had to explain that to you.

if this is a waste of time to you, by all means feel free to not respond.

Well, I think you should look at the bomber's intentions when you describe him as either a "homicide" or "suicide" bomber. His intentions are not to kill himself. He wouldn't just stand in an open field with nobody around him and kill himself. He is blowing up the bomb first to bring about mass casualties, which is why he is a "homicide" bomber. His 2nd intention is then get 10,000 virgins on planet Melmac with Alf or whatever.

jlew24asu

bootlegger10 wrote:

Well, I think you should look at the bomber's intentions when you describe him as either a "homicide" or "suicide" bomber. His intentions are not to kill himself. He wouldn't just stand in an open field with nobody around him and kill himself. He is blowing up the bomb first to bring about mass casualties, which is why he is a "homicide" bomber. His 2nd intention is then get 10,000 virgins on planet Melmac with Alf or whatever.

amazing that this needs to be explained to several people on this board.

bootlegger10

Jeanwah wrote:

HA Ha. Hello...The Fox network is Bush-biased...whatever Bush says, Fox agrees with.

O'Reilly disagrees with the Bush administration all of the time.

I enjoy the liberals use of fear to scare the public. The Republicans will cheat and steal elections (didn't happen in 2006), the media only reports what Bush wants (CNN, NY Times, Colbert/Stewart, MSNBC, etc.....), the Patriot Act will take away your freedoms (I'm doing okay), etc....

Cosmo

I caught a bit of that show last night as I was surfing throught the channels. It was pretty pathetic. Conservatives need to steer clear of comedy, just as Liberals need to steer clear of military strategies. The laugh tracks were worse than the canned laughter from the 'Dick Van Dyke Show'... and they had to explain their jokes (being a FOX News audience, I can understand why). And the worst part... it was really a "Making fun of me? Oh yeah... well, I can make fun of you..." kind of whimsical, schoolyard rebuttal.
FOX News needs to leave the fake news to pros at Comedy Central and continue with their comedic 'O'Rielly Factor' and 'Hannity and Combs' shows... that's comedy.

Trau

Of course FoxNews is biased. Many of the things their anchors, not just their commentators, say are just ridiculous and unprofessional.

Keith Olbermann, while I do often watch him, is also quite biased, however. I have never seen him interview anyone with whom he disagrees.

Sexy2aFault

That was a dreadful show, I lean left and see no problem with this type of show, in fact it could be funny. I stress "could". Where is Colin Quinn or some other right leaning talent? The satire was awful and void of any irony, just attacks.

Fox news is not the corp to try this. Forget the fact it was sans any original idea, forget t he fact it was obvious...... Just be funny. Colin Quinns Comedy Central show was guilty of both of those things, but they, as comics, had some funny debate and good jokes ocassionaly.

I always try to be sympathetic to Fox, I defend O'reilly because he, unlike Hannity, had the guts to say Iraq is a mess and he was wrong.... I like Shepherd Smith... but this network is so out of touch it cannot be defended. I think I often defend this network just to be different, everyone bashes it, I should be devil's advocate and all that crap.... Can't do it anymore. I have been watching Olberman lately, and I like it. He's funny. BTW, his bit about the "1-2 hour news hour" (retarded, did not HBO have a 1-2 hour comedy hour...pathetic they just robbed that idea) was what funny is. Showing a laugh track over George Bush's rhetoric. Perfect lampoon of Fox's attempt at satire.

frgntoad

FOX tells the other side of the story that the liberals don't want us to hear. IT's fair and balanced in that they balance out the other 90% of the liberal new programs. Go FOX!

sweet adeline

i'm suprised fox couldn't get that turncoat motherfucker dennis miller to do this so called 1/2 hour comedy show.

Fighting Hellfish

You don't think they tried? Even Dennis Miller isn't that desperate.

Fighting Hellfish

Holy shit, how happy is Fox about the whole Anna Nicole ordeal? Now they can fill almost all of their shows with 35 minutes of Anna, 15 minutes on Britney, and maybe a minute or 2 on that whole war thing

El_Kabong

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

Holy shit, how happy is Fox about the whole Anna Nicole ordeal? Now they can fill almost all of their shows with 35 minutes of Anna, 15 minutes on Britney, and maybe a minute or 2 on that whole war thing

they play cnn in the breakroom at work and it seems like at every break since it's happened it's been 99.9% annaa

El_Kabong

sweet adeline wrote:

i'm suprised fox couldn't get that turncoat motherfucker dennis miller to do this so called 1/2 hour comedy show.

actually they probably thought he would be too balanced. i hated his monologues but his show on cnbc or whatever was actually pretty good, he had good guests and didn't cut them off, would let them finish their point before he started talking again

Fighting Hellfish

El_Kabong wrote:

they play cnn in the breakroom at work and it seems like at every break since it's happened it's been 99.9% annaa

Yeah, enough of this shit.