Senator wants to be sworn in on the Quran. Unamarican?

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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    miller8966 wrote:
    I love how in this thread the original text of the constitution is so sacred and unmovable. But when it comes to gun laws, is where the constitution can be changed and manipulated.

    This is a great point that can and should be applied to many arguments. If you believe that one thing shouldn't be banned simply because it's unconstitutional, then you should be consistent and apply that rule to everything. I hope nobody does that, because it's obvious the Constitution is full of problems.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    miller8966 wrote:
    I love how in this thread the original text of the constitution is so sacred and unmovable. But when it comes to gun laws, is where the constitution can be changed and manipulated.
    Psst ... miller ... the gun thread is over there ---->>
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Saturnal wrote:
    haha you're going to hell then.

    I was just referring to the "In God We Trust" part. The God mentioned there is the Christian god, who is also who Jesus claimed to be.
    Christians don't have a copyright on the word "God." Allah is a god. So is Zeus. We could sit here for days naming gods. There is nothing on the dollar bill that has any specific connection with Christianity.
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    hippiemom wrote:
    Christians don't have a copyright on the word "God." Allah is a god. So is Zeus. We could sit here for days naming gods. There is nothing on the dollar bill that has any specific connection with Christianity.

    I know God can mean many things, but that has nothing to do with looking at reality. The phrase used on money is referring to the Christian god. Yes, technically God could mean any number of gods, but on American money, the God that's being referred to is obviously the Christian god.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Saturnal wrote:
    I know God can mean many things, but that has nothing to do with looking at reality. The phrase used on money is referring to the Christian god. Yes, technically God could mean any number of gods, but on American money, the God that's being referred to is obviously the Christian god.
    How is that obvious? Is that wacky eyeball on the pyramid thingie a Christian symbol? Or maybe the eagle is the official bird of the Christian church?
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    hippiemom wrote:
    How is that obvious? Is that wacky eyeball on the pyramid thingie a Christian symbol? Or maybe the eagle is the official bird of the Christian church?

    It is obvious when you read about the history of this phrase being put on U.S. money, that it is referring to the Christian god. It was placed on money during the Civil War to encourage everyone feel united as Christians as opposed to being divided in opposition to or in favor of the formation of a federal government....or being divided as slave owners as opposed to factory owners if you like.
  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    Article VI of the U.S. Constitution reads

    The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
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  • Teslarocker
    Teslarocker Posts: 123
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    What is the point of having 5 gods watch over Congress?

    Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the same God. And don't bother pointing out that Muslims call their God "Allah". It's the same God even if they call it by another name
  • darkcrow
    darkcrow Posts: 1,102
    Teslarocker wrote:
    Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the same God. And don't bother pointing out that Muslims call their God "Allah". It's the same God even if they call it by another name

    also dont jews call god Jehovah?
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  • dotheevolution1
    dotheevolution1 Posts: 104
    WHO CARES, WORSHIP WHO YOU WANT, NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO STOP YOU. (yes, I was yelling there.)
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  • darkcrow
    darkcrow Posts: 1,102
    dotheevolution1 wrote:
    WHO CARES, WORSHIP WHO YOU WANT, NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO STOP YOU. (yes, I was yelling there.)

    thanks a lot, you just blew my speakers! ;)
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  • JaneNY
    JaneNY Posts: 4,438
    puremagic wrote:
    Article VI of the U.S. Constitution reads

    The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

    That is an excellent clarification to bring up in this thread! And thank goodness that text is in there.
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  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    I like the fact that he swore in on Thomas Jefferson's copy of the Koran. That's a class act.

    I don't find any problem with it. If someone doesn't want to swear on anything, he doesn't have to.

    Although, it just goes to show the beliefs they hold. If they don't believe in the Bible, what do they believe? If they believe in the Koran, do they believe in all of it?

    It's sort of like the flag-burning issue, to me. Okay, burn the flag that's fine by me. But, then I know how you really feel about this country and I know to discount everything else you say.

    If someone chooses something other than the Bible to swear upon, big effing deal. But, then I know that they don't believe in the Christian faith and that affects their judgment.

    Remember: freedom of religion also means that I can vote for people who share my religious beliefs and I don't have to vote for people who don't share my religious beliefs.
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  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    icarus wrote:
    i thought jews called him yahweh? not sure, but jehovah is the original name used for god in the bible isnt it? so christians should be calling him that too.

    Jehovah is the incorrect translation of "Yahweh." It is translated into english "I am, who am."
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    I like the fact that he swore in on Thomas Jefferson's copy of the Koran. That's a class act.

    I don't find any problem with it. If someone doesn't want to swear on anything, he doesn't have to.

    Although, it just goes to show the beliefs they hold. If they don't believe in the Bible, what do they believe? If they believe in the Koran, do they believe in all of it?

    It's sort of like the flag-burning issue, to me. Okay, burn the flag that's fine by me. But, then I know how you really feel about this country and I know to discount everything else you say.

    If someone chooses something other than the Bible to swear upon, big effing deal. But, then I know that they don't believe in the Christian faith and that affects their judgment.

    Remember: freedom of religion also means that I can vote for people who share my religious beliefs and I don't have to vote for people who don't share my religious beliefs.

    man... you were so close to a rational post there... and then you blew it.
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    soulsinging wrote:
    man... you were so close to a rational post there... and then you blew it.
    I'm sure you'd prefer atheists in political office.
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    CW, I totally agree with you on this one, though I am athiest.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    I'm sure you'd prefer atheists in political office.

    Why do . . . ah screw it. You're not worth it.
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    cutback wrote:
    Why do . . . ah screw it. You're not worth it.

    Neither are you
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    I like the fact that he swore in on Thomas Jefferson's copy of the Koran. That's a class act.

    I don't find any problem with it. If someone doesn't want to swear on anything, he doesn't have to.

    Although, it just goes to show the beliefs they hold. If they don't believe in the Bible, what do they believe? If they believe in the Koran, do they believe in all of it?

    It's sort of like the flag-burning issue, to me. Okay, burn the flag that's fine by me. But, then I know how you really feel about this country and I know to discount everything else you say.

    If someone chooses something other than the Bible to swear upon, big effing deal. But, then I know that they don't believe in the Christian faith and that affects their judgment.

    Remember: freedom of religion also means that I can vote for people who share my religious beliefs and I don't have to vote for people who don't share my religious beliefs.
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