Why aren't Christians pacifists?

catefrances

metsfan531941 wrote:

they shit me to, but hey i just try and live my life the best i can and not worry bout other people thoughts on the war and religion and everything else, cause if i did, id probably kill them.i have zero patience for alot of things

lately i seem to have zero tolerance for everything. in fact i don't even know what im still doing here most times.

Eliot Rosewater

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

The people of Germany let Hitler happen. Hitler didn't just wake up one day and say ok ok start killing all these people. It was a slow steady progression of demonizing and racial prejudice combined with complacency.

It's a genie in the bottle effect and a lot of people are too damn busy, stupid, ignorant etc.. to realize. God forbid you were mistaken for a Jew (terrorist) in Hitler's (Bush's) time.

All in the name of terrorism. Yeah right. That's the brainwash right there.

Demonize...kill...kill... no mater what it takes to "defeat" the invisible undefeatable enemy :rolleyes:

I hope people will stop hitting the snooze button long enough before we all create a monster that has no discretion on what a "terrorist" really is.

So when is civil disobedience going to be terrorism? We're far too close already.

Millions have fought and died against the powers that be to have what we have today, and we are letting it all just slip away...all because were too fucking stupid to realize.

Yes, and civil disobedience took a big hit the other day, right? When Bush's executive order allows him to fuck anyone who may be "threatening the stability of Iraq" - according to him? Unbelievable. And people aren't paying attention. It's criminal and it's horrifying.

Gary Carter

don't gimme no wrote:

Come on man, WWJD?

jesus would take a few bong hits and then drink some red wine before coming to a conclusion.i always wonder how good was the red wine jesus drank and how many pair of flip flops did he have and if jesus was more of a boob man or an ass man

catefrances wrote:

lately i seem to have zero tolerance for everything. in fact i don't even know what im still doing here most times.

were all gonna die from nukes sooner or later might as well enjoy earth before its to late

RolandTD20Kdrummer

don't gimme no wrote:

Yes, and civil disobedience took a big hit the other day, right? When Bush's executive order allows him to fuck anyone who may be "threatening the stability of Iraq" - according to him? Unbelievable. And people aren't paying attention. It's criminal and it's horrifying.

Exactly. All one has to do is follow what he is doing. He just makes the shit up now like a full on dictator...just snaps his fingers...poof!.....and fuck anyone who disagrees in the process.

If you don't drink the kool-aid you're a terrorist now.

Obey or die.

insanity

StupidHumanBeings

metsfan531941 wrote:

cause sometimes they dont know it cause there brainwashed. people are happy being brainwashed here thats whats people outside of america dont get. i live with these peoples and see what goes on first hand.

This is absolutely true. Being brain washed is not all that bad if you're lucky enough to still be succeptible. Unfortunately their votes but more importantly their money still counts.

Gary Carter

StupidHumanBeings wrote:

This is absolutely true. Being brain washed is not all that bad if you're lucky enough to still be succeptible. Unfortunately their votes but more importantly their money still counts.

excatly thats the only reason why bush(the figure head) is in power, he was the perfect puppet for the christian right.the only difference between bush and hitler is that hitler was smart(except for going after russia) and was the LEADER.

catefrances

metsfan531941 wrote:

jesus would take a few bong hits and then drink some red wine before coming to a conclusion.i always wonder how good was the red wine jesus drank and how many pair of flip flops did he have and if jesus was more of a boob man or an ass man

i think jesus was gay. he was always hanging out with those apostles of his.

Eliot Rosewater

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Exactly. All one has to do is follow what the he is doing. He just makes the shit up now like a full on dictator...just snaps his fingers...poof!.....and fuck anyone who disagrees in the process.

If you don't drink the kool-aid you're a terrorist now.

Obey or die.

insanity

Well, people are lazy and ignorant. And they don't see how one little thing (in their mind) like that can ruin humanity as we know it. One small step for terrorism, one giant leap for dictatorship.

Gary Carter

catefrances wrote:

i think jesus was gay. he was always hanging out with those apostles of his.

well after all he did say love thy man, thats a little gay in my book

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Why can't I stop watching this? What is wrong with me?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs7NbgkgbQU

StupidHumanBeings

metsfan531941 wrote:

u mean like the jesus actions figure toys and religion tv

I was actually thinking more along the lines of "the end is near". The product is not "the end" but the "nearness of the end".

catefrances

StupidHumanBeings wrote:

I was actually thinking more along the lines of "the end is near". The product is not "the end" but the "nearness of the end".

i have to admit i do like those 'buddy christ' figures in kevin smith's dogma.

Gary Carter

StupidHumanBeings wrote:

I was actually thinking more along the lines of "the end is near".

i cant think of anything witty to say in response to this, so ill just go to bed now

StupidHumanBeings

metsfan531941 wrote:

excatly thats the only reason why bush(the figure head) is in power, he was the perfect puppet for the christian right.the only difference between bush and hitler is that hitler was smart(except for going after russia) and was the LEADER.

I do agree that Bush is a figurehead but not for the christian right. The christian right are part of the Republican coaltion but they are no where near in charge. Every now and then the Republicans stir the soup with abortion and stem cells to keep them happy but both Cheney and Rove think that they're pretty much gullible.

The real power base within the Republican administration is primarily the economy and as they understand it it would freeze without oil. This conversation belongs in another thread at this point but we are pretty much in a new cold war with China and losing.

StupidHumanBeings

metsfan531941 wrote:

i cant think of anything witty to say in response to this, so ill just go to bed now

Lightweight

RolandTD20Kdrummer

don't gimme no wrote:

Well, people are lazy and ignorant. And they don't see how one little thing (in their mind) like that can ruin humanity as we know it. One small step for terrorism, one giant leap for dictatorship.

It's definitely a tightrope that's for sure. I'm almost thinking every country that's on top is doomed to be toppled at some point as people get fat and lazy and politicians, in light of, run amuck.

I think it's just human nature.

It's certainly a phenomenon in itself, and I doubt the people of Germany ever thought that one day there would be dead jews lying and rotting everywhere in the streets of their cities. I'm sure if you told them they would laugh at you and call you crazy.

I say it's an extremely slippery slope, so why keep sliding down it? Some people tell me I'm over reacting. Then I say... well... you know that saying that history has that little stubborn habit of repeating itself again and again and again?

I don't trust anyone who seeks that much control over my life.

As should no one.

Eliot Rosewater

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

It's definitely a tightrope that's for sure. I'm almost thinking every country that's on top is doomed to be toppled at some point as people get fat and lazy and politicians, in light of, run amuck.

I think it's just human nature.

It's certainly a phenomenon in itself, and I doubt the people of Germany ever thought that one day there would be dead jews lying and rotting everywhere in the streets of their cities. I'm sure if you told them they would laugh at you and call you crazy.

I say it's an extremely slippery slope, so why keep sliding down it? Some people tell me I'm over reacting. Then I say... well... you know that saying that history has that little stubborn habit of repeating itself again and again and again?

I don't trust anyone who seeks that much control over my life.

As should no one.

I'm with you, Roland. It is a slippery slope and it's a big fucking deal. I'm tired and need to go to bed..but before I go we should get back on topic. Go Jesus! :rolleyes:

RolandTD20Kdrummer

don't gimme no wrote:

I'm with you, Roland. It is a slippery slope and it's a big fucking deal. I'm tired and need to go to bed..but before I go we should get back on topic. Go Jesus! :rolleyes:

High fiiive
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Have a good night. Sleep well.

deadnothingbetter

ArmsinaV wrote:

Honest question here for Christians, mainly.

Turn the other cheek when someone hits you. Why is it applicable in personal life and not social/political life?

As a Christian, I'm starting to wonder myself if that's not the best way to approach the world....

my question is that why is it people ask questions and when an avid reader of the bible tries to explain them people get offended for some odd reason?

deadnothingbetter

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

So would you agree that the Bible has something of a conflicted message?

After all, if the Bible can't get its shit straight, how can its followers be expected to?

i don't think it's that the bible can't get it's shit straight... i think it's lack of reading correctly.