Christ, according to Christians, was crucified for a greater purpose (to redeem the sins of mankind). He doesn't purport that all Christians take unnecessary beatings or face death for no reason. Otherwise, there would probably be no Christians left on earth. On certain occasions, in fact, he advocated kicking ass and taking names. Just ask the money changers and the Temple. He didn't just ignore them, gypping the poor. He up and kicked their ass.
Oh yeah, I forgot that murdering spree in the temple. Wait, he didn't kill them, he just hurt them. Maybe that's how Christians justify torture, but I still don't get the killing.
Tell me how the WWJD? comes into play? Because if we're honest with ourselves when asking that question, we'd all rather be killed than kill. That's what I've learned from the Christian storybooks. And it's actually a good lesson IMO. That coming from a non-Christian.
The message of Jesus Christ is a great one. Whether it be real or fiction. But his message wasn't to kill. Here's a pretty good idea of what he taught, just in case anyone was wondering....
no its the truth, the average christian doesnt support war, they only support it now cause the jackass's in DC brainwashed them to believing that muslims are bad and all that other right wing crap. when i was catholic i was a pacifists cause i was taught to love thy neighbor
then in fact they do support the war. it matters not how they came to that conviction. if you can not think for yourself then you're basically screwed anyway.
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Oh yeah, I forgot that murdering spree in the temple. Wait, he didn't kill them, he just hurt them. Maybe that's how Christians justify torture, but I still don't get the killing.
Tell me how the WWJD? comes into play? Because if we're honest with ourselves when asking that question, we'd all rather be killed than kill. That's what I've learned from the Christian storybooks. And it's actually a good lesson IMO. That coming from a non-Christian.
The message of Jesus Christ is a great one. Whether it be real or fiction. But his message was not to kill. Here's a pretty good idea of what he taught, just in case anyone was wondering....
Yes, yes, I am familiar with the Sermon on the Mount. But there are also passages in the New Testament that refer to governing authorities as "bearing God's sword.
"But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer."
Don't sound like "turn the other cheek" to me.
I'm not saying you have to agree with Christian theology. I'm just telling you how Christian theology can rationalize war. It was the question posed in the title of this thread, after all.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
then in fact they do support the war. it matters not how they came to that conviction. if you can not think for yourself then you're basically screwed anyway.
they support it cause of brainwashing. it does mater how they come to,thats a fucking cop out of an excuse you used. any thing u matters when you come to a conviction,how did i come to the conviction of no longer being catholic, it wasnt cause i was brainwashed i came to it on my own and realized that i dont need to join a cult to find peace and inner self.
Yes, yes, I am familiar with the Sermon on the Mount. But there are also passages in the New Testament that refer to governing authorities as "bearing God's sword.
"But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer."
Don't sound like "turn the other cheek" to me.
I'm not saying you have to agree with Christian theology. I'm just telling you how Christian theology can rationalize war. It was the question posed in the title of this thread, after all.
wow look at that someone answering the question in a logic and thougout way on here, how shocking :rolleyes:
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they support it cause of brainwashing. it does mater how they come to,thats a fucking cop out of an excuse you used. any thing u matters when you come to a conviction,how did i come to the conviction of no longer being catholic, it wasnt cause i was brainwashed i came to it on my own and realized that i dont need to join a cult to find peace and inner self.
i imagine brian you came to the conclusions about your religion cause you sensed something wasn't quite right.
it is not a cop out. and ignorance is no excuse. people are not being brainwashed about this war, they are lazy. the information is out there. they just couldn't be bothered looking for it or thinking about it. they allow someone else to form opinions for them when they themselves should be doing it.
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Yes, yes, I am familiar with the Sermon on the Mount. But there are also passages in the New Testament that refer to governing authorities as "bearing God's sword.
"But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer."
Don't sound like "turn the other cheek" to me.
I'm not saying you have to agree with Christian theology. I'm just telling you how Christian theology can rationalize war. It was the question posed in the title of this thread, after all.
I'm sorry but I've still got to disagree with you. The question posed is "What would Jesus do?" It's not, "What would Jesus say some point later in the New Testament...."
Jesus, would let himself be killed. He would rather be killed by Saddam Hussein. He would rather be killed by Usama Bin Laden. He would rather be killed by George W. Bush and Dick Cheney (while working in the WTC). He would rather be killed by some crazy fuck in Iran. He would rather be killed by you or me or anyone else, than to kill anyone else. That's how I interpret how he supposedly lived his life.
i imagine brian you came to the conclusions about your religion cause you sensed something wasn't quite right.
it is not a cop out. and ignorance is no excuse. people are not being brainwashed about this war, they are lazy. the information is out there. they just couldn't be bothered looking for it or thinking about it. they allow someone else to form opinions for them when they themselves should be doing it.
yes i did cate, i sensed these oil men taking over the catholic religion and taking over the usa by brainwashing us and it worked on 50 million people who didnt come to there own conclusions cause they were brainwashed in believeing that iraq had something to do with 9-11 and that this war is to protect our "freedoms"
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Oh yeah, I forgot that murdering spree in the temple. Wait, he didn't kill them, he just hurt them. Maybe that's how Christians justify torture, but I still don't get the killing.
I think, like most everything else Christ did or said, this story was meant to be allegorical. It was meant to show that sometimes you have to fight for what is right. Sometimes, defending goodness requires violence. Or something like that. Christ also spoke of the need to build one's house on rock instead of sand ... but I don't think he REALLY meant it as construction advice.
Tell me how the WWJD? comes into play?
Depends on what book of the Bible you're reading. The gospel Christ says "Turn the other cheek." But if you believe the book of Revelation, when Christ returns, it's gonna be a fucking bloodletting.
Because if we're honest with ourselves when asking that question, we'd all rather be killed than kill.
Speak for yourself there. If it's comes down to you or me living, I'm gonna do everything in my power to make it me. Nothing personal
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
I'm sorry but I've still got to disagree with you. The question posed is "What would Jesus do?" It's not, "What would Jesus say some point later in the New Testament...."
Jesus, would let himself be killed. He would rather be killed by Saddam Hussein. He would rather be killed by Usama Bin Laden. He would rather be killed by George W. Bush and Dick Cheney (while working in the WTC). He would rather be killed by some crazy fuck in Iran. He would rather be killed by you or me or anyone else, than to kill anyone else. That's how I interpret how he supposedly lived his life.
And, to paraphrase what you said to me earlier, that's only YOUR interpretation.
That's not the interpretation pushed by pretty much any mainstream sect of Christianity. And again, that's all I'm saying. This is how Christians rationalize war. That much isn't up for argument. It is a fact. This is how they do it.
Again, you might think you know what Jesus would do, and you might be right, who knows? But that's not what the mainstream of Christians believe. Your opinion doesn't change the fact that this stuff is what is being taught in Christian churches right now, and has been for centuries.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
I think, like most everything else Christ did or said, this story was meant to be allegorical. It was meant to show that sometimes you have to fight for what is right. Sometimes, defending goodness requires violence. Or something like that. Christ also spoke of the need to build one's house on rock instead of sand ... but I don't think he REALLY meant it as construction advice.
Depends on what book of the Bible you're reading. The gospel Christ says "Turn the other cheek." But if you believe the book of Revelation, when Christ returns, it's gonna be a fucking bloodletting.
But that hasn't happened. It's fortune-telling. Prophecy at best. But not history or anything to do with being an example. Even if the Bible were 100% accurate, how does his judgment and punishment open that doors for us to kill? Especially when his message was a message of peace? Damn...how can we live in a country with a governmental position called "War Czar", especially when such position was made by a supposed Christian who talks to God about invading other sovereign nations? [/quote]
then in fact they do support the war. it matters not how they came to that conviction. if you can not think for yourself then you're basically screwed anyway.
Unfortunately you are putting the carrige before the horses in your logic. You can't use secular thought to understand this problem because it's not secular thought that is developing it.
Just because we may disagree and even be repulsed by someone's reasoning we must still understand it in their terms in order to have any hope in fixing the problem.
They are thinking for themselves it's just that the cornerstone of their reasoning is based on Christian teachings to which everything else is secondary. The conviction is the most important element to which all other actions (and support of the war) stem from.
If you beleived that the Rapture was something acheivable by humans, and that it would end this mad world for a better one, would you not want to evoke it? It's the ultimate exit strategy. Where is the failure in logic there on their terms?
Confucious Says: He who buries a man's wife alive, should not expect to sit at that man's dinner table without the subject coming up.
And, to paraphrase what you said to me earlier, that's only YOUR interpretation.
That's not the interpretation pushed by pretty much any mainstream sect of Christianity. And again, that's all I'm saying. This is how Christians rationalize war. That much isn't up for argument. It is a fact. This is how they do it.
Again, you might think you know what Jesus would do, and you might be right, who knows? But that's not what the mainstream of Christians believe. Your opinion doesn't change the fact that this stuff is what is being taught in Christian churches right now, and has been for centuries.
Are you fucking kidding me? We're talking about a story where we both know the ending. Christ was killed. He didn't kill. He let himself be killed. I claim to know what Jesus would do because I lived my life for 25 years in Christianity. I believed it, I studied it. But it doesn't even take that. The story is that he didn't kill. He let people kill him. Even when he supposedly had all the power on Heaven and Earth to stop them. His message was a message of peace. PEACE. PEACE. Not war. PEACE. It's not just my version.
Unfortunately you are putting the carrige before the horses in your logic. You can't use secular thought to understand this problem because it's not secular thought that is developing it.
Just because we may disagree and even be repulsed by someone's reasoning we must still understand it in their terms in order to have any hope in fixing the problem.
They are thinking for themselves it's just that the cornerstone of their reasoning is based on Christian teachings to which everything else is secondary. The conviction is the most important element to which all other actions (and support of the war) stem from.
If you beleived that the Rapture was something acheivable by humans, and that it would end this mad world for a better one, would you not want to evoke it? It's the ultimate exit strategy. Where is the failure in logic there on their terms?
thank you for making my point
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Religion aside, violence has solved a shitload of problems in the history of the world. Just ask the Jews who didn't get exterminated after WWII.
It's an illusion, and a band-aid solution it only sows the seeds of hatred deeper.
Population #'s and forced interaction is the underlying problem and the biggest challenge over the next 20 years.
Bush and Hitler, all personalities aside, are going through the same motions to obtain control. There's no difference. Demonize...destroy...control...repeat.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Turn the other cheek when someone hits you. Why is it applicable in personal life and not social/political life?
As a Christian, I'm starting to wonder myself if that's not the best way to approach the world....
or why aren't they more environmentaly conscious? the bible said the world is his gift...look at how his great gift is treated! ppl like ann coulter and others will argue the dominion over it all...that doesn't change the fact: imagine if you gave your child a really big gift...something unique, one of a kind and they treat it like shit, like it doesn't matter...?
i'm sure god didn't want us to have to BUY water to drink b/c the water sources are all dirty and polluted (not to mention the soil, air, food sources....)
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he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
yes i did cate, i sensed these oil men taking over the catholic religion and taking over the usa by brainwashing us and it worked on 50 million people who didnt come to there own conclusions cause they were brainwashed in believeing that iraq had something to do with 9-11 and that this war is to protect our "freedoms"
well then anyone who actually believes that iraq had any part in 9/11 is just stupid. but as you and i both know people would sooner believe EVERYTHING their government tells them than actually scratch the surface and reveal the truth. to question their government is perhaps to question themselves and who wants to do that when the answers may not be to their liking? i just can't agree with you on the brainwashing. i think it's just ignorance.
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They are thinking for themselves it's just that the cornerstone of their reasoning is based on Christian teachings to which everything else is secondary.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the point was that their reasoning in fact is NOT based on "Christian teachings" as to say the teachings of Christ. But rather the teachings of fucked up people who consider themselves to be Christians.
It's an illusion, and a band-aid solution it only sows the seeds of hatred deeper.
Population #'s and forced interaction is the underlying problem and the biggest challenge over the next 20 years.
Bush and Hitler, all personalities aside, are going through the same motions to obtain control. There's no difference. Demonize...destroy...control...repeat.
I couldn't agree more. It's obvious to anyone who's paying attention that U.S. and A. is well on it's way to becoming Nazi Germany. It's horrifying.
well then anyone who actually believes that iraq had any part in 9/11 is just stupid. but as you and i both know people would sooner believe EVERYTHING their government tells them than actually scratch the surface and reveal the truth.
for the love the god(no pun intended) thats the very essence of brainwashing.
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well then anyone who actually believes that iraq had any part in 9/11 is just stupid. but as you and i both know people would sooner believe EVERYTHING their government tells them than actually scratch the surface and reveal the truth. to question their government is perhaps to question themselves and who wants to do that when the answers may not be to their liking? i just can't agree with you on the brainwashing. i think it's just ignorance.
I think it's a bit of both. I guess stemming from laziness. We're so damn lazy that we often refuse to educate ourselves, which leads to ignorance. But we have to listen to someone, and those who have the mics know what's going on and they take advantage of it by brainwashing.
I think it's a bit of both. I guess stemming from laziness. We're so damn lazy that we often refuse to educate ourselves, which leads to ignorance. But we have to listen to someone, and those who have the mics know what's going on and they take advantage of it by brainwashing.
thank you for further proving my point
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he didn't prove your point. he's half agreeing with you.
and you know we could go round and round the mulberry bush on this brian. unfortunately i tend to measure everyone by myself. i figure if i know it then why don't they. i know that sounds arrogant and perhaps even naive but i cant see how people are just happy to be spoonfed. then again perhaps it's just my contrary nature.
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he didn't prove your point. he's half agreeing with you.
and you know we could go round and round the mulberry bush on this brian. unfortunately i tend to measure everyone by myself. i figure if i know it then why don't they. i know that sounds arrogant and perhaps even naive but i cant see how people are just happy to be spoonfed. then again perhaps it's just my contrary nature.
cause sometimes they dont know it cause there brainwashed. people are happy being brainwashed here thats whats people outside of america dont get. i live with these peoples and see what goes on first hand. and yes your being just a tad bit naive cate.ahhh gue i love your wise ass comment, they never get old. dont gimmie no, theres always tommrow
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cause sometimes they dont know it cause there brainwashed. people are happy being brainwashed here thats whats people outside of america dont get. i live with these peoples and see what goes on first hand. and yes your being just a tad bit naive cate.
people just shit me that's all it is and i have zero patience for fools.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the point was that their reasoning in fact is NOT based on "Christian teachings" as to say the teachings of Christ. But rather the teachings of fucked up people who consider themselves to be Christians.
It's really challenging to undertand this problem. You are right though it's not in line with the teachings of Christ. This however all depends on your denomination if it's Catholic, Methodist, Episcopal, Lutheran it may be hard to grasp the Evangelical industry and mindset.
People need something to believe in and sometimes the shiniest object wins. Beleif like anything else is a commodity. If we were to pick our beleif system like we buy anything else (and we do), we would buy the biggest, loudest, fastest, and overall best packaged and presented one.
People have to constantly be sold on their religion. That's why if you ever look at the Evangelical movement in this country it's almost embarrasing at the outright consumerisim of the whole thing. It's the faith industry.
Confucious Says: He who buries a man's wife alive, should not expect to sit at that man's dinner table without the subject coming up.
people just shit me that's all it is and i have zero patience for fools.
they shit me to, but hey i just try and live my life the best i can and not worry bout other people thoughts on the war and religion and everything else, cause if i did, id probably kill them.i have zero patience for alot of things
People have to constantly be sold on their religion. That's why if you ever look at the Evangelical movement in this country it's almost embarrasing at the outright consumerisim of the whole thing. It's the faith industry.
u mean like the jesus actions figure toys and religion tv
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I couldn't agree more. It's obvious to anyone who's paying attention that U.S. and A. is well on it's way to becoming Nazi Germany. It's horrifying.
The people of Germany let Hitler happen. Hitler didn't just wake up one day and say ok ok start killing all these people. It was a slow steady progression of demonizing and racial prejudice combined with complacency.
It's a genie in the bottle effect and a lot of people are too damn busy, stupid, ignorant etc.. to realize. God forbid you were mistaken for a Jew (terrorist) in Hitler's (Bush's) time.
All in the name of terrorism. Yeah right. That's the brainwash right there.
Demonize...kill...kill... no mater what it takes to "defeat" the invisible undefeatable enemy :rolleyes:
I hope people will stop hitting the snooze button long enough before we all create a monster that has no discretion on what a "terrorist" really is.
So when is civil disobedience going to be terrorism? We're far too close already.
Millions have fought and died against the powers that be to have what we have today, and we are letting it all just slip away...all because were too fucking stupid to realize.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
they shit me to, but hey i just try and live my life the best i can and not worry bout other people thoughts on the war and religion and everything else, cause if i did, id probably kill them.
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Tell me how the WWJD? comes into play? Because if we're honest with ourselves when asking that question, we'd all rather be killed than kill. That's what I've learned from the Christian storybooks. And it's actually a good lesson IMO. That coming from a non-Christian.
The message of Jesus Christ is a great one. Whether it be real or fiction. But his message wasn't to kill. Here's a pretty good idea of what he taught, just in case anyone was wondering....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermon_on_the_Mount
Note the emphasis on "resist not evil" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-resistance
and "turn the other cheek" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn_the_other_cheek
then in fact they do support the war. it matters not how they came to that conviction. if you can not think for yourself then you're basically screwed anyway.
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Yes, yes, I am familiar with the Sermon on the Mount. But there are also passages in the New Testament that refer to governing authorities as "bearing God's sword.
"But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer."
Don't sound like "turn the other cheek" to me.
I'm not saying you have to agree with Christian theology. I'm just telling you how Christian theology can rationalize war. It was the question posed in the title of this thread, after all.
for the least they could possibly do
wow look at that someone answering the question in a logic and thougout way on here, how shocking :rolleyes:
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i imagine brian you came to the conclusions about your religion cause you sensed something wasn't quite right.
it is not a cop out. and ignorance is no excuse. people are not being brainwashed about this war, they are lazy. the information is out there. they just couldn't be bothered looking for it or thinking about it. they allow someone else to form opinions for them when they themselves should be doing it.
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Jesus, would let himself be killed. He would rather be killed by Saddam Hussein. He would rather be killed by Usama Bin Laden. He would rather be killed by George W. Bush and Dick Cheney (while working in the WTC). He would rather be killed by some crazy fuck in Iran. He would rather be killed by you or me or anyone else, than to kill anyone else. That's how I interpret how he supposedly lived his life.
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I think, like most everything else Christ did or said, this story was meant to be allegorical. It was meant to show that sometimes you have to fight for what is right. Sometimes, defending goodness requires violence. Or something like that. Christ also spoke of the need to build one's house on rock instead of sand ... but I don't think he REALLY meant it as construction advice.
Depends on what book of the Bible you're reading. The gospel Christ says "Turn the other cheek." But if you believe the book of Revelation, when Christ returns, it's gonna be a fucking bloodletting.
Speak for yourself there. If it's comes down to you or me living, I'm gonna do everything in my power to make it me. Nothing personal
for the least they could possibly do
And, to paraphrase what you said to me earlier, that's only YOUR interpretation.
That's not the interpretation pushed by pretty much any mainstream sect of Christianity. And again, that's all I'm saying. This is how Christians rationalize war. That much isn't up for argument. It is a fact. This is how they do it.
Again, you might think you know what Jesus would do, and you might be right, who knows? But that's not what the mainstream of Christians believe. Your opinion doesn't change the fact that this stuff is what is being taught in Christian churches right now, and has been for centuries.
for the least they could possibly do
But that hasn't happened. It's fortune-telling. Prophecy at best. But not history or anything to do with being an example. Even if the Bible were 100% accurate, how does his judgment and punishment open that doors for us to kill? Especially when his message was a message of peace? Damn...how can we live in a country with a governmental position called "War Czar", especially when such position was made by a supposed Christian who talks to God about invading other sovereign nations? [/quote]
And I as a non-Christian, would let you take my life. The irony is fucking insane.
Unfortunately you are putting the carrige before the horses in your logic. You can't use secular thought to understand this problem because it's not secular thought that is developing it.
Just because we may disagree and even be repulsed by someone's reasoning we must still understand it in their terms in order to have any hope in fixing the problem.
They are thinking for themselves it's just that the cornerstone of their reasoning is based on Christian teachings to which everything else is secondary. The conviction is the most important element to which all other actions (and support of the war) stem from.
If you beleived that the Rapture was something acheivable by humans, and that it would end this mad world for a better one, would you not want to evoke it? It's the ultimate exit strategy. Where is the failure in logic there on their terms?
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
It's an illusion, and a band-aid solution it only sows the seeds of hatred deeper.
Population #'s and forced interaction is the underlying problem and the biggest challenge over the next 20 years.
Bush and Hitler, all personalities aside, are going through the same motions to obtain control. There's no difference. Demonize...destroy...control...repeat.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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or why aren't they more environmentaly conscious? the bible said the world is his gift...look at how his great gift is treated! ppl like ann coulter and others will argue the dominion over it all...that doesn't change the fact: imagine if you gave your child a really big gift...something unique, one of a kind and they treat it like shit, like it doesn't matter...?
i'm sure god didn't want us to have to BUY water to drink b/c the water sources are all dirty and polluted (not to mention the soil, air, food sources....)
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
well then anyone who actually believes that iraq had any part in 9/11 is just stupid. but as you and i both know people would sooner believe EVERYTHING their government tells them than actually scratch the surface and reveal the truth. to question their government is perhaps to question themselves and who wants to do that when the answers may not be to their liking? i just can't agree with you on the brainwashing. i think it's just ignorance.
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he didn't prove your point. he's half agreeing with you.
and you know we could go round and round the mulberry bush on this brian. unfortunately i tend to measure everyone by myself. i figure if i know it then why don't they. i know that sounds arrogant and perhaps even naive but i cant see how people are just happy to be spoonfed. then again perhaps it's just my contrary nature.
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Go Dodgers.
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What do you mean? You have to tell you what you mean. I don't understand. I need an explanation. Does this have something to do with religion?
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people just shit me that's all it is and i have zero patience for fools.
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It's really challenging to undertand this problem. You are right though it's not in line with the teachings of Christ. This however all depends on your denomination if it's Catholic, Methodist, Episcopal, Lutheran it may be hard to grasp the Evangelical industry and mindset.
People need something to believe in and sometimes the shiniest object wins. Beleif like anything else is a commodity. If we were to pick our beleif system like we buy anything else (and we do), we would buy the biggest, loudest, fastest, and overall best packaged and presented one.
People have to constantly be sold on their religion. That's why if you ever look at the Evangelical movement in this country it's almost embarrasing at the outright consumerisim of the whole thing. It's the faith industry.
u mean like the jesus actions figure toys and religion tv
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The people of Germany let Hitler happen. Hitler didn't just wake up one day and say ok ok start killing all these people. It was a slow steady progression of demonizing and racial prejudice combined with complacency.
It's a genie in the bottle effect and a lot of people are too damn busy, stupid, ignorant etc.. to realize. God forbid you were mistaken for a Jew (terrorist) in Hitler's (Bush's) time.
All in the name of terrorism. Yeah right. That's the brainwash right there.
Demonize...kill...kill... no mater what it takes to "defeat" the invisible undefeatable enemy :rolleyes:
I hope people will stop hitting the snooze button long enough before we all create a monster that has no discretion on what a "terrorist" really is.
So when is civil disobedience going to be terrorism? We're far too close already.
Millions have fought and died against the powers that be to have what we have today, and we are letting it all just slip away...all because were too fucking stupid to realize.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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