Nope. I think the people calling for his resignation are mainly doing so because that's what they think they are supposed to do.
I'd honestly like someone to list why they are happy he's gone.
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Failure to recognize the problems with the military occupation of a completely foriegn land.
Thinking military solutions work on political problems.
Believing in only the Best Case Scenario... i.e. Welcomed as Liberators.
Failing to listen to the soldiers in the field.
Only wants 'Good News'.
You DON'T go to War with the Army you have... you go with the Army you NEED.
Believes he doesn't make mistakes.
...
I'm sure others have a few more.
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Failure to recognize the problems with the military occupation of a completely foriegn land.
Thinking military solutions work on political problems.
Believing in only the Best Case Scenario... i.e. Welcomed as Liberators.
Failing to listen to the soldiers in the field.
Only wants 'Good News'.
You DON'T go to War with the Army you have... you go with the Army you NEED.
Believes he doesn't make mistakes.
...
I'm sure others have a few more.
how about the fact he's a big fat liar. and he's a conniving old fuck, too. and i swear, you could show that guy a picture of a dog and he'll try to convince you it's a donkey. he's pathetic.
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Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
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Failure to recognize the problems with the military occupation of a completely foriegn land.
Thinking military solutions work on political problems.
Believing in only the Best Case Scenario... i.e. Welcomed as Liberators.
Failing to listen to the soldiers in the field.
Only wants 'Good News'.
You DON'T go to War with the Army you have... you go with the Army you NEED.
Believes he doesn't make mistakes.
...
I'm sure others have a few more.
I've been reading Woodward's State of Denial. If you want some good reasons to see Rummy go, just read a few pages of that book. The guy is a micromanaging failure.
"Worse than traitors in arms are the men who pretend loyalty to the flag, feast and fatten on the misfortunes of the nation while patriotic blood is crimsoning the plains." -- Abraham Lincoln
Not likely. I am betting the reason he is stepping down is because the Dems won and he is trying to dodge the investigation probes that would be comming his way. He is running scared. He is a man with lots of things to hide and the Dems winning risked him being fully exposed. Run Rummy, run as fast as you can you prick.
this was my first thought, too.
Excuse my ignorance but his resignation is a total surprise, right? I watched quite a bit of television yesterday (many different channels) and this scenario was never brought up.
My 2nd thought was... I wonder if someone will find him dead in the near future...
Excuse my ignorance but his resignation is a total surprise, right? I watched quite a bit of television yesterday (many different channels) and this scenario was never brought up.
My 2nd thought was... I wonder if someone will find him dead in the near future...
From what I've read today, the President started interviewing for a replacement a couple of weeks ago. Bush said that he'd put off the decision until after the elections and base it upon the GOP's success. Well, the GOP bombed so Rummy was shown the door.
BTW, I'm really unimpressed with the dem attitudes here. Instead of hoping for a commission to investigate Iraqi failures, how about we instead concentrate on forming a commission to get us out of the gaggle first. Vindictive fuckers, you are.
"Worse than traitors in arms are the men who pretend loyalty to the flag, feast and fatten on the misfortunes of the nation while patriotic blood is crimsoning the plains." -- Abraham Lincoln
From what I've read today, the President started interviewing for a replacement a couple of weeks ago. Bush said that he'd put off the decision until after the elections and base it upon the GOP's success. Well, the GOP bombed so Rummy was shown the door.
BTW, I'm really unimpressed with the dem attitudes here. Instead of hoping for a commission to investigate Iraqi failures, how about we instead concentrate on forming a commission to get us out of the gaggle first. Vindictive fuckers, you are.
thanks and I agree with you. (but I prefer the word "passionate" over "vindictive" )
From what I've read today, the President started interviewing for a replacement a couple of weeks ago. Bush said that he'd put off the decision until after the elections and base it upon the GOP's success. Well, the GOP bombed so Rummy was shown the door.
BTW, I'm really unimpressed with the dem attitudes here. Instead of hoping for a commission to investigate Iraqi failures, how about we instead concentrate on forming a commission to get us out of the gaggle first. Vindictive fuckers, you are.
No, he never said he was basing his decision on the success of the election. Rum was gone regardless because he wanted out and had tried before; and ths time is was more convenient for the Bush to refresh.
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No, he never said he was basing his decision on the success of the election. Rum was gone regardless because he wanted out and had tried before; and ths time is was more convenient for the Bush to refresh.
Considering I have no insider information, I based that post upon the MSNBC article which was very clear in stating that Bush wanted to gauge GOP success prior to relieving Rummy. If you have a different source with different information, perhaps one of our sources for news is incorrect.
"Worse than traitors in arms are the men who pretend loyalty to the flag, feast and fatten on the misfortunes of the nation while patriotic blood is crimsoning the plains." -- Abraham Lincoln
absolutely, Failing to listen to the soldiers in the field and the commanders in the field is enough all by itself
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Here is the Editorial from the Army Times. http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2333360.php
Now, I know there are those who'll say, "This magazine isn't published by our military... it is published by Gannett Publications" like the talking heads at FOX are saying. I respond, "So?"
Aviation Week isn't published by NASA or the Air Force, but it is the source for information... a trade magazine. The Army Times is basically a trade publication for our military... written by military people.
Here is an excerpt:
"...despite the best efforts of American trainers, the problem of molding a viciously sectarian population into anything resembling a force for national unity has become a losing proposition.
For two years, American sergeants, captains and majors training the Iraqis have told their bosses that Iraqi troops have no sense of national identity, are only in it for the money, don’t show up for duty and cannot sustain themselves.
Meanwhile, colonels and generals have asked their bosses for more troops. Service chiefs have asked for more money.
And all along, Rumsfeld has assured us that things are well in hand."
...
Also... watch 'Gunners Palace' and see some of the bullshit our guys have to deal with over there. It ain't a fucking bed of roses in Iraq... time to quit telling us it is.
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"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones."
"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones."
Like a PTAPE.
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"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones."
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"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones."
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that's a real quote. I just posted the video in another thread today.
"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones."
Like a PTAPE.
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that's a real quote. I just posted the video in another thread today.
I was referring to "Like a PTAPE". That is fake news. I don't believe the quote to be fake as Rumsfeld was an absolute idiot.
"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones."
Like a PTAPE.
FakeNewsHalifax2TheMax or would you prefer FNH2TM?
that's a real quote. I just posted the video in another thread today.
I was referring to "Like a PTAPE". That is fake news. I don't believe the quote to be fake as Rumsfeld was an absolute idiot.
Do you know that? That a PTAPE doesn’t exist? Are you sure? How do you “know?” Can it not be, in Rummy’s indelible words, be an “unknown, unknown?”
It’s hilarious how the PTape thing gets to some people
What's hilarious is that this message board despises Donald Trump yet he is the most popular thing to talk about. Here we are in a Rumsfeld thread and yet we are talking about Trump....
"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones."
Like a PTAPE.
FakeNewsHalifax2TheMax or would you prefer FNH2TM?
that's a real quote. I just posted the video in another thread today.
I was referring to "Like a PTAPE". That is fake news. I don't believe the quote to be fake as Rumsfeld was an absolute idiot.
Do you know that? That a PTAPE doesn’t exist? Are you sure? How do you “know?” Can it not be, in Rummy’s indelible words, be an “unknown, unknown?”
Do I know for a fact? No but I do know there was an investigation costing millions of dollars that looked into it and nothing ever came of it.
"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones."
Like a PTAPE.
FakeNewsHalifax2TheMax or would you prefer FNH2TM?
that's a real quote. I just posted the video in another thread today.
I was referring to "Like a PTAPE". That is fake news. I don't believe the quote to be fake as Rumsfeld was an absolute idiot.
Do you know that? That a PTAPE doesn’t exist? Are you sure? How do you “know?” Can it not be, in Rummy’s indelible words, be an “unknown, unknown?”
Do I know for a fact? No but I do know there was an investigation costing millions of dollars that looked into it and nothing ever came of it.
Did you see the look on POOTWH’s face when he and Putin on the ritz walked out to the podium for their/there/they’re joint press conference in Helsinki? What do you think they discussed before walking out and why do you suppose there are no publicly available transcripts? Are you referring to the Team Mueller Report that was truncated and undermined by CYA Barr? What about Bull Durham and all that fruit from the poisonous tree, unmasking and illegal wire tap requests that have resulted in jack squat?
I’m all ears as while the PTAPE was a mention in the Team Mueller report, it wasn’t the focus of the investigation. Did you read the Team Mueller report, particularly the footnotes?
Did I see the look on Donald Trump's face? I'm sorry but the look on someone's face does not indict anyone of anything. How many other "missing" public transcripts are there between US Presidents and other world leaders?
I have no information about a PTAPE because it doesn't matter. By this point, it's just childish just like constantly calling people stupid names. You know who else calls people stupid names? Donald Trump.
Didn't the PTAPE story come from the Steele dossier? The one that the Clinton Campaign paid for? You want to talk about Russian collusion?
Did I see the look on Donald Trump's face? I'm sorry but the look on someone's face does not indict anyone of anything. How many other "missing" public transcripts are there between US Presidents and other world leaders?
I have no information about a PTAPE because it doesn't matter. By this point, it's just childish just like constantly calling people stupid names. You know who else calls people stupid names? Donald Trump.
Didn't the PTAPE story come from the Steele dossier? The one that the Clinton Campaign paid for? You want to talk about Russian collusion?
Mueller didn't even read the Team Mueller report which tells me it was a fraud.
Ok champ. Does paying off porn stars matter? How about 17 or more credible allegations of sexual assault? Does that matter? POOTWH’s fraud university, does that matter? How about those indictments that’ll be handed down tomorrow? Do those matter? And speaking of Hillary, so sure of your fact based opinion, when will she be indicted? You know, for that Russian collusion delusion started by repub donors? Lemme know, okay? It was CYA Barr who didn’t read it. Team Mueller wrote it.
How do you explain POOTWH’s obedience to Putin on the ritz?
Good fucking lord a moonie newspaper is your source?
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Failure to recognize the problems with the military occupation of a completely foriegn land.
Thinking military solutions work on political problems.
Believing in only the Best Case Scenario... i.e. Welcomed as Liberators.
Failing to listen to the soldiers in the field.
Only wants 'Good News'.
You DON'T go to War with the Army you have... you go with the Army you NEED.
Believes he doesn't make mistakes.
...
I'm sure others have a few more.
Hail, Hail!!!
how about the fact he's a big fat liar. and he's a conniving old fuck, too. and i swear, you could show that guy a picture of a dog and he'll try to convince you it's a donkey. he's pathetic.
Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
Fraud, Negligence, Accessory to Murder.
Let's fry that fucker.
It will never happen :(
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Maybe Diebold can't cope with a big voter turnout, and loads of lawyers prodding their machines.
Britney Spears looks hot again, though.
this was my first thought, too.
Excuse my ignorance but his resignation is a total surprise, right? I watched quite a bit of television yesterday (many different channels) and this scenario was never brought up.
My 2nd thought was... I wonder if someone will find him dead in the near future...
From what I've read today, the President started interviewing for a replacement a couple of weeks ago. Bush said that he'd put off the decision until after the elections and base it upon the GOP's success. Well, the GOP bombed so Rummy was shown the door.
BTW, I'm really unimpressed with the dem attitudes here. Instead of hoping for a commission to investigate Iraqi failures, how about we instead concentrate on forming a commission to get us out of the gaggle first. Vindictive fuckers, you are.
thanks and I agree with you. (but I prefer the word "passionate" over "vindictive"
No, he never said he was basing his decision on the success of the election. Rum was gone regardless because he wanted out and had tried before; and ths time is was more convenient for the Bush to refresh.
Considering I have no insider information, I based that post upon the MSNBC article which was very clear in stating that Bush wanted to gauge GOP success prior to relieving Rummy. If you have a different source with different information, perhaps one of our sources for news is incorrect.
I still think this a plausible theory and that you havent seen the last of Rummy
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Here is the Editorial from the Army Times.
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2333360.php
Now, I know there are those who'll say, "This magazine isn't published by our military... it is published by Gannett Publications" like the talking heads at FOX are saying. I respond, "So?"
Aviation Week isn't published by NASA or the Air Force, but it is the source for information... a trade magazine. The Army Times is basically a trade publication for our military... written by military people.
Here is an excerpt:
"...despite the best efforts of American trainers, the problem of molding a viciously sectarian population into anything resembling a force for national unity has become a losing proposition.
For two years, American sergeants, captains and majors training the Iraqis have told their bosses that Iraqi troops have no sense of national identity, are only in it for the money, don’t show up for duty and cannot sustain themselves.
Meanwhile, colonels and generals have asked their bosses for more troops. Service chiefs have asked for more money.
And all along, Rumsfeld has assured us that things are well in hand."
...
Also... watch 'Gunners Palace' and see some of the bullshit our guys have to deal with over there. It ain't a fucking bed of roses in Iraq... time to quit telling us it is.
Hail, Hail!!!
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this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
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I was referring to "Like a PTAPE". That is fake news. I don't believe the quote to be fake as Rumsfeld was an absolute idiot.
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Do I know for a fact? No but I do know there was an investigation costing millions of dollars that looked into it and nothing ever came of it.
I’m all ears as while the PTAPE was a mention in the Team Mueller report, it wasn’t the focus of the investigation. Did you read the Team Mueller report, particularly the footnotes?
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How do you explain POOTWH’s obedience to Putin on the ritz?
Good fucking lord a moonie newspaper is your source?
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