Iowa court rules same-sex couples can marry

jamtemplechains

Juberoo wrote:

furthermore, when did legalized marriage become a right? Is it discrimination when teenagers aren't allowed to legally marry? Is it discrmination when an adult wants to marry someone "underage"?

Discrimination against some societal issues is a necessity.

what the fuck do teenagers and underage kids have to do with gays being allowed to be married? two consenting, homosexual adults are a relatively different story than underage scenarios.
wow, you're really full of them aren't you?

Juberoo

It is discrimination to force everyone to accept the homosexual lifestyle.

Juberoo

jamtemplechains wrote:

yeah see there's kind of a problem with your logic considering when someone is convicted of a crime and incarcerated, they lose their basic freedoms and liberties--except for those still promised by the constitution. i'm pretty sure being gay doesn't have a legal effect on your rights as a citizen...super awesome analogy though.

nope..when you strip them of their rights and incarcerate them, by your reasoning, you are discriminating. You are labeling them and lumping them into a category.

My point to this analogy was that discrimination is necessary sometimes.

Juberoo

jamtemplechains wrote:

what the fuck do teenagers and underage kids have to do with gays being allowed to be married? two consenting, homosexual adults are a relatively different story than underage scenarios.
wow, you're really full of them aren't you?

nope...we are talking human rights here. Who is to say that teenagers aren't going to start a war on discrimination. Claiming that as humans the "legal age" issue unconstitutional.

Again, discrimination is sometimes necessary.

jamtemplechains

sure, i'll concede that. necessary when someone is guilty of rape or murder or molestation. what are gays guilty of again? ohhhh, yeah that's right, they're guilty of being the target of harrassment and prejudice from ignorant morons. i'm not asking you to accept anyone's lifestyle, i'm just suggesting you to but out and stop worrying about something that has aboslutely nothing to do with you as a heterosexual. if you think you shouldn't be forced to accept their lifestyle, why should they be forced to accept yours?

Juberoo

jamtemplechains wrote:

sure, i'll concede that. necessary when someone is guilty of rape or murder or molestation. what are gays guilty of again? ohhhh, yeah that's right, they're guilty of being the target of harrassment and prejudice from ignorant morons. i'm not asking you to accept anyone's lifestyle, i'm just suggesting you to but out and stop worrying about something that has aboslutely nothing to do with you as a heterosexual. if you think you shouldn't be forced to accept their lifestyle, why should they be forced to accept yours?

because it is natural and serves a purpose

jamtemplechains

and i would just LOVE to see teens fight back against the legal adult age since if--for some INSANE reason--it even made it onto a bill, they sorta wouldn't be able to vote for it...

jamtemplechains

ohhh, it's "natural." well i'm sorry monsieur naturalist, i didn't mean to upset the gentle balance of the universe by suggesting homesexuals should be able to not worry about catching shit from bigots...

baraka

Juberoo wrote:

It is discrimination to force everyone to accept the homosexual lifestyle.

What do you mean exactly when you say the above? Are you being forced to have a homosexual relationship? Or do you just not like the idea of not being able to abuse or discriminate against folks you like to pass judgment on?

jamtemplechains

baraka wrote:

What do you mean exactly when you say the above? Are you being forced to have a homosexual relationship? Or do you just not like the idea of not being able to abuse or discriminate against folks you like to pass judgment on?

big thumbs up, baraka

SPEEDY MCCREADY

i would give you all my opinion on same sex marriage......


but i dont need the grief....

hehehehehe.................

prism

baraka wrote:

What do you mean exactly when you say the above? Are you being forced to have a homosexual relationship? Or do you just not like the idea of not being able to abuse or discriminate against folks you like to pass judgment on?

the only logical rational for thinking that gay marriage is a threat to hetrosexual marriage is because she must be worried that if gay marriage were made legal her husband would divorce her and go on to marry a man

Juberoo

jamtemplechains wrote:

and i would just LOVE to see teens fight back against the legal adult age since if--for some INSANE reason--it even made it onto a bill, they sorta wouldn't be able to vote for it...

ok...so take that the next step further. What if teens fight to get the voting age lowered because it is unconstitutional. The writting of the constitution states 'every man woman and child" has equal rights. So therefore, shouldn't we let children vote as well? When we stop them, we are violating their basic rights.

Juberoo

baraka wrote:

What do you mean exactly when you say the above? Are you being forced to have a homosexual relationship? Or do you just not like the idea of not being able to abuse or discriminate against folks you like to pass judgment on?

dont be coy...you know very well that anyone who disagrees with the lifestyle and speaks out against it is harrassed and labled. This is hypocrisy. If you want gays to be accepted for their views and choices then you have to accept the views and choices of those who disagree.

Juberoo

prism wrote:

the only logical rational for thinking that gay marriage is a threat to hetrosexual marriage is because she must be worried that if gay marriage were made legal her husband would divorce her and go on to marry a man

It has nothing to do with threat. It has to do with disgust.

Juberoo

prism wrote:

the only logical rational for thinking that gay marriage is a threat to hetrosexual marriage is because she must be worried that if gay marriage were made legal her husband would divorce her and go on to marry a man

Isnt it interesting that those who "support" tolerance and antisocial thinking always resort to petty name calling and personal attacks to try and win the argument? Are you really that stupid?

spiral out

Juberoo wrote:

It has nothing to do with threat. It has to do with disgust.

And what exactly is so disgusting?

What business is it of anyone but the two people involved?

prism

Juberoo wrote:

Isnt it interesting that those who "support" tolerance and antisocial thinking always resort to petty name calling and personal attacks to try and win the argument? Are you really that stupid?

show me where in that post I called anyone a name or personally attacked anyone...hell, show me where I mentioned any person in particular?



how hypocritical of you to refer to me as stupid...wouldn't that be "name calling?"

prism

Juberoo wrote:

It has nothing to do with threat. It has to do with disgust.

here's an idea: if you find gay marriage so disgusting then don't divorce your husband then go on to marry a woman!

what two other consenting gay or lesbian adults do has not a damn thing to do with you or your marriage

Juberoo

actually stupid is an adjective used to describe something or someone.

stu·pid /ˈstupɪd, ˈstyu‑/ Pronunciation Key - [stoo-pid, styoo‑] Pronunciation Key - adjective, -er, -est, noun
–adjective
1. lacking ordinary quickness and keenness of mind; dull.
2. characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness; foolish; senseless: a stupid question.
3. tediously dull, esp. due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless: a stupid party.
4. annoying or irritating; troublesome: Turn off that stupid radio.
5. in a state of stupor; stupefied: stupid from fatigue.