Iowa court rules same-sex couples can marry

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  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    It really is uplifting to see long delayed justice finally take place. I felt the same way when gay marriage became legal here in Massachusetts. I wish it would happen for a lot of other issues.

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  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,606
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    It really is uplifting to see long delayed justice finally take place. I felt the same way when gay marriage became legal here in Massachusetts. I wish it would happen for a lot of other issues.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAyZ7jmKOWg&mode=user&search=


    I agree. I hope this sets a precedent.
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  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    Deni wrote:
    I didn't know. I thought CW was a girl anyway. lol
    Historically, many of us who have been here a while know he is a banned person of a former screename.
    I cannot come up with a new sig till I get this egg off my face.
  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    Vedd Hedd wrote:
    Youre right dude!!!!

    Its a good thing married people dont cheat and spread STD's. And its a damn good thing that married men and women only get married because they are in love....never because they are trying to hide a rampant lifestyle.

    This looks sarcastic to me! If you are implying that heterosexual people can also be permiscuous and that a high number of divorces occur due to cheating, then you are just plain crazy. I think you are a witch!
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  • DeniDeni Posts: 233
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    Historically, many of us who have been here a while know he is a banned person of a former screename.

    Really. Well. I didn't know. It wouldn't be miller something something would it?
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  • DeniDeni Posts: 233
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    This looks sarcastic to me! If you are implying that heterosexual people can also be permiscuous and that a high number of divorces occur due to cheating, then you are just plain crazy. I think you are a witch!

    Hey! I AM a witch! ;)
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Deni wrote:
    Really. Well. I didn't know. It wouldn't be miller something something would it?
    No, although their politics are similar. Barroom Hero = Corporate Whore.

    I like to combine the two, because I think Barroom Whore has a nice ring to it :D
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  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,606
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    This looks sarcastic to me! If you are implying that heterosexual people can also be permiscuous and that a high number of divorces occur due to cheating, then you are just plain crazy. I think you are a witch!


    No way!!:D Not herero couples!!!

    They are all faithfull!
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  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    cutback wrote:
    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/31/iowa.samesex.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

    " By late morning, 20 had applied for marriage licenses when Recorder Julie Haggerty announced that she had been instructed to stop accepting the applications. Hanson later said the judge that he had formally stayed his ruling.

    The judge's stay means the recorder's office is not permitted to accept any more marriage applications from gay couples until the Iowa Supreme Court rules on the county's appeal."
    LOL that was funny.....

    OK you can get married.

    NOT!
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

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  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    Corporate Whore you are not helping to make a stand against gay marriage with comments like "gays brought AIDS". That is rediculous.

    While the male homosexual community has consistently held the highest census for the disease, it came from contamination in humans via monkeys in the Congo. SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus) is scientifically believed to be the origin of HIV. It is thought to have crossed species via butchering techniques or eating of raw monkey flesh, specifically the brain.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • hippiemom wrote:
    No, although their politics are similar. Barroom Hero = Corporate Whore.

    I like to combine the two, because I think Barroom Whore has a nice ring to it :D

    I like just like whore...but ok that was bad...but I'm in a state

    Bathroom Whore I mean baroom er corporate Baroom..corporate hooker...oh ah shit I don know.. now...please for give me....so confused....

    Oh hell I need a few days (mayforever) off... I'll take the ban

    What's in a name though....alcohol is talking through me

    Goodbyyeeee everyone...

    Bathroom hooker whore.....fuck....Which is it dammit...

    I'm done...
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  • i don't even know where to begin with corporatewhore's post....sociological studies over the past 20 years show that of married couples that are both still together AND divorced, approximately 50% of them took part in extramarital affairs while married (which is also just some food for thought if you're a married person! ;) ). not to mention the steadily rising divorce rates everyone is already aware of. do you REALLY think homosexuals would be that much worse at marriage than the rest of us? i mean...honestly, now. to quote peter griffin, 'if gay people wanna get married and be miserable like the rest of us, then i think they should be able to!'
    also, i have to agree with juberoo, what kind of ignorant stab in the dark is it to suggest that homosexuals introduced AIDS to America?
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  • Do they get to spank legally now ??
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  • Juberoo wrote:
    Corporate Whore you are not helping to make a stand against gay marriage with comments like "gays brought AIDS". That is rediculous.

    While the male homosexual community has consistently held the highest census for the disease, it came from contamination in humans via monkeys in the Congo. SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus) is scientifically believed to be the origin of HIV. It is thought to have crossed species via butchering techniques or eating of raw monkey flesh, specifically the brain.

    But, it became an epidemic as a result of "bath-house" promiscuity in gay men. That is not an anti-gay statement BTW. Nor is AIDS relevant to teh subject of gay marriage. The idea of "balanced parenting" might have though.
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  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    Gay people seem to think that if they could just get married, that would help solve some of the rampant problems their lifestyle entails. Let them get married - they'll just transfer rampant cheating and multiple partners under the guise of a marriage. Gays are always changing partners.

    Oh, and thanks for introducing AIDS to America, gays. I appreciate that one.

    Wow you do talk a load of absolute crap don't you.
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  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    The idea of "balanced parenting" might have though.


    I know pleanty of gay parents and their children have and are growing up just fine.
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    spiral out wrote:
    I know pleanty of gay parents and their children have and are growing up just fine.

    I agree. :) Given the divorce rate and the number of children living in single parent households anyway, not to mention the number of children being raised by foster parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, other family members I can't really see the relevance of balanced parenting when it comes to gay/lesbian couples or anybody else for that matter. You are either committed to raising your children to the best of your ability or you're not. There are plenty of examples of married, heterosexual couples not providing "balanced parenting".

    With regard to the recent ruling in Iowa, well it's very exciting news and long overdue as far as I'm concerned.

    Oh and with regard to the term "marriage" and the seperation of church and state, I'm with hippiemom and Uncle Leo.
    NOPE!!!

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  • just because a couple has one person with a penis, and one person with a vagina, doesn't make them any more well-rounded or appropriate to raise a child.
    Do you see the way that tree bends?
    Does it inspire?
    Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
    A lesson to be applied.

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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Juberoo wrote:
    LOL that was funny.....

    OK you can get married.

    NOT!


    there is nothing funny about discrimination.
  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    But, it became an epidemic as a result of "bath-house" promiscuity in gay men. That is not an anti-gay statement BTW. Nor is AIDS relevant to teh subject of gay marriage. The idea of "balanced parenting" might have though.
    epidemic is different from origin
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

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  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    cutback wrote:
    there is nothing funny about discrimination.
    no..this was definitely funny

    all these gay guys running around dancing and celebrating to get their license just to have to pick up their marbles and go back home.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Juberoo wrote:
    no..this was definitely funny

    all these gay guys running around dancing and celebrating to get their license just to have to pick up their marbles and go back home.

    Yeah, it's always funny when a couple of law abiding, consentual adults who love each other are told by the government that they can't do something. Especially something that is required for people to direct medical care, share benefits, etc... Funny stuff, there - if you're a bigot.
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  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    jeffbr wrote:
    Yeah, it's always funny when a couple of law abiding, consentual adults who love each other are told by the government that they can't do something. Especially something that is required for people to direct medical care, share benefits, etc... Funny stuff, there - if you're a bigot.
    Guess I'm a bigot then if you feel the need to label. Funny too how people who don't like others views don't feel they are bigots. But really, you are if you are unwilling to accept my opinion too. By your statement, I only lose my label if I agree with you. Isn't it amazing how tolerance tends to be one sided.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Juberoo wrote:
    Guess I'm a bigot then if you feel the need to label. Funny too how people who don't like others views don't feel they are bigots. But really, you are if you are unwilling to accept my opinion too. By your statement, I only lose my label if I agree with you. Isn't it amazing how tolerance tends to be one sided.

    It has nothing to do with agreeing with me. By definition, you earned that label all by yourself.
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  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    jeffbr wrote:
    It has nothing to do with agreeing with me. By definition, you earned that label all by yourself.
    and again, isn't part of the whole tolerance movement about losing labels? Hypocrite.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

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    Pro-life by choice.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Juberoo wrote:
    and again, isn't part of the whole tolerance movement about losing labels? Hypocrite.

    I'm part of a freedom and liberty movement, so I don't know what the tolerance movement says about losing labels. But if I'm a hypocrite for ridiculing people who oppose liberty, I'll gladly wear the label.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • you don't have to "label" someone something for them to be that way. if someone loves sports...they're a sports fan. if someone believes, studies and follows the talmud, they're jewish.....and if someone thinks it's humerous and benign when a certain group of people are discrimanted against and denied basic freedoms and liberties, they're a bigot. that's...kinda just the way it is...
    Do you see the way that tree bends?
    Does it inspire?
    Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
    A lesson to be applied.

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  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    you don't have to "label" someone something for them to be that way. if someone loves sports...they're a sports fan. if someone believes, studies and follows the talmud, they're jewish.....and if someone thinks it's humerous and benign when a certain group of people are discrimanted against and denied basic freedoms and liberties, they're a bigot. that's...kinda just the way it is...
    so when you lock up criminals away from their basic freedoms and liberties are you a bigot too?

    Obviously, labels are often misused. For example, black communities who label white police officers as racists for arresting their black youth for crimes committed.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    you don't have to "label" someone something for them to be that way. if someone loves sports...they're a sports fan. if someone believes, studies and follows the talmud, they're jewish.....and if someone thinks it's humerous and benign when a certain group of people are discrimanted against and denied basic freedoms and liberties, they're a bigot. that's...kinda just the way it is...
    furthermore, when did legalized marriage become a right? Gays are free to get married in their own type of private ceremonies. Why are they putting so much insistance on mainstream traditions? If a marriage paper isn't important, as so many people on here esp. insist, why is this even an arguement?

    Is it discrimination when teenagers aren't allowed to legally marry? Is it discrmination when an adult wants to marry someone "underage"?

    Discrimination against some societal issues is a necessity.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • yeah see there's kind of a problem with your logic considering when someone is convicted of a crime and incarcerated, they lose their basic freedoms and liberties--except for those still promised by the constitution. i'm pretty sure being gay doesn't have a legal effect on your rights as a citizen...super awesome analogy though.
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    Does it inspire?
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