furthermore, when did legalized marriage become a right? Is it discrimination when teenagers aren't allowed to legally marry? Is it discrmination when an adult wants to marry someone "underage"?
Discrimination against some societal issues is a necessity.
what the fuck do teenagers and underage kids have to do with gays being allowed to be married? two consenting, homosexual adults are a relatively different story than underage scenarios.
wow, you're really full of them aren't you?
Do you see the way that tree bends?
Does it inspire?
Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
A lesson to be applied.
Best night of my life. . .
Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.
yeah see there's kind of a problem with your logic considering when someone is convicted of a crime and incarcerated, they lose their basic freedoms and liberties--except for those still promised by the constitution. i'm pretty sure being gay doesn't have a legal effect on your rights as a citizen...super awesome analogy though.
nope..when you strip them of their rights and incarcerate them, by your reasoning, you are discriminating. You are labeling them and lumping them into a category.
My point to this analogy was that discrimination is necessary sometimes.
Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
what the fuck do teenagers and underage kids have to do with gays being allowed to be married? two consenting, homosexual adults are a relatively different story than underage scenarios.
wow, you're really full of them aren't you?
nope...we are talking human rights here. Who is to say that teenagers aren't going to start a war on discrimination. Claiming that as humans the "legal age" issue unconstitutional.
Again, discrimination is sometimes necessary.
Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
sure, i'll concede that. necessary when someone is guilty of rape or murder or molestation. what are gays guilty of again? ohhhh, yeah that's right, they're guilty of being the target of harrassment and prejudice from ignorant morons. i'm not asking you to accept anyone's lifestyle, i'm just suggesting you to but out and stop worrying about something that has aboslutely nothing to do with you as a heterosexual. if you think you shouldn't be forced to accept their lifestyle, why should they be forced to accept yours?
Do you see the way that tree bends?
Does it inspire?
Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
A lesson to be applied.
Best night of my life. . .
Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.
sure, i'll concede that. necessary when someone is guilty of rape or murder or molestation. what are gays guilty of again? ohhhh, yeah that's right, they're guilty of being the target of harrassment and prejudice from ignorant morons. i'm not asking you to accept anyone's lifestyle, i'm just suggesting you to but out and stop worrying about something that has aboslutely nothing to do with you as a heterosexual. if you think you shouldn't be forced to accept their lifestyle, why should they be forced to accept yours?
because it is natural and serves a purpose
Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
and i would just LOVE to see teens fight back against the legal adult age since if--for some INSANE reason--it even made it onto a bill, they sorta wouldn't be able to vote for it...
Do you see the way that tree bends?
Does it inspire?
Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
A lesson to be applied.
Best night of my life. . .
Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.
ohhh, it's "natural." well i'm sorry monsieur naturalist, i didn't mean to upset the gentle balance of the universe by suggesting homesexuals should be able to not worry about catching shit from bigots...
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Does it inspire?
Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
A lesson to be applied.
Best night of my life. . .
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It is discrimination to force everyone to accept the homosexual lifestyle.
What do you mean exactly when you say the above? Are you being forced to have a homosexual relationship? Or do you just not like the idea of not being able to abuse or discriminate against folks you like to pass judgment on?
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
What do you mean exactly when you say the above? Are you being forced to have a homosexual relationship? Or do you just not like the idea of not being able to abuse or discriminate against folks you like to pass judgment on?
big thumbs up, baraka
Do you see the way that tree bends?
Does it inspire?
Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
A lesson to be applied.
Best night of my life. . .
Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.
What do you mean exactly when you say the above? Are you being forced to have a homosexual relationship? Or do you just not like the idea of not being able to abuse or discriminate against folks you like to pass judgment on?
the only logical rational for thinking that gay marriage is a threat to hetrosexual marriage is because she must be worried that if gay marriage were made legal her husband would divorce her and go on to marry a man
and i would just LOVE to see teens fight back against the legal adult age since if--for some INSANE reason--it even made it onto a bill, they sorta wouldn't be able to vote for it...
ok...so take that the next step further. What if teens fight to get the voting age lowered because it is unconstitutional. The writting of the constitution states 'every man woman and child" has equal rights. So therefore, shouldn't we let children vote as well? When we stop them, we are violating their basic rights.
Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
What do you mean exactly when you say the above? Are you being forced to have a homosexual relationship? Or do you just not like the idea of not being able to abuse or discriminate against folks you like to pass judgment on?
dont be coy...you know very well that anyone who disagrees with the lifestyle and speaks out against it is harrassed and labled. This is hypocrisy. If you want gays to be accepted for their views and choices then you have to accept the views and choices of those who disagree.
Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
the only logical rational for thinking that gay marriage is a threat to hetrosexual marriage is because she must be worried that if gay marriage were made legal her husband would divorce her and go on to marry a man
It has nothing to do with threat. It has to do with disgust.
Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
the only logical rational for thinking that gay marriage is a threat to hetrosexual marriage is because she must be worried that if gay marriage were made legal her husband would divorce her and go on to marry a man
Isnt it interesting that those who "support" tolerance and antisocial thinking always resort to petty name calling and personal attacks to try and win the argument? Are you really that stupid?
Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
It has nothing to do with threat. It has to do with disgust.
And what exactly is so disgusting?
What business is it of anyone but the two people involved?
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Isnt it interesting that those who "support" tolerance and antisocial thinking always resort to petty name calling and personal attacks to try and win the argument? Are you really that stupid?
show me where in that post I called anyone a name or personally attacked anyone...hell, show me where I mentioned any person in particular?
how hypocritical of you to refer to me as stupid...wouldn't that be "name calling?"
actually stupid is an adjective used to describe something or someone.
stu·pid /ˈstupɪd, ˈstyu‑/ Pronunciation Key - [stoo-pid, styoo‑] Pronunciation Key - adjective, -er, -est, noun
–adjective
1. lacking ordinary quickness and keenness of mind; dull.
2. characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness; foolish; senseless: a stupid question.
3. tediously dull, esp. due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless: a stupid party.
4. annoying or irritating; troublesome: Turn off that stupid radio.
5. in a state of stupor; stupefied: stupid from fatigue.
Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
here's an idea: if you find gay marriage so disgusting then don't divorce your husband then go on to marry a woman!
what two other consenting gay or lesbian adults do has not a damn thing to do with you or your marriage
It has absolutely nothing to do with my marriage. It has to do with marriage as a whole. Homosexual marriage goes against the tradition of original marriage. It was designed to incorporate one man and one woman. To allow same sex marriages trivializes that institution.
Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
show me where in that post I called anyone a name or personally attacked anyone...hell, show me where I mentioned any person in particular?
how hypocritical of you to refer to me as stupid...wouldn't that be "name calling?"
you personally attacked me by assuming that I was fearful of my husband running away to another man. Again, a bright person would have seen that. Sorry, it seems you are quite challenged. I'll dumb down my responses for you from now on.
Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
you personally attacked me by assuming that I was fearful of my husband running away to another man. Again, a bright person would have seen that. Sorry, it seems you are quite challenged. I'll dumb down my responses for you from now on.
no, i said that that was the only logical rational someone would have for thinking it to be a threat to hetrosexual marriage. why are you so defensive? you took it personally, and for all you know i was talking about my sister.
you've refered to me as stupid and now challenged, so to say that what you're saying is hypocritical, judgemental and moronic would just be me using adjectives that describe you, being that you're a something or someone....or is it only okay for you to hurl insults?
I think you know how the lyric goes: "if you hate something, don't you do it to"
no, i said that that was the only logical rational someone would have for thinking it to be a threat to hetrosexual marriage. why are you so defensive? you took it personally, and for all you know i was talking about my sister.
you've refered to me as stupid and now challenged, so to say that what you're saying is hypocritical, judgemental and moronic would just be me using adjectives that describe you, being that you're a something or someone....or is it only okay for you to hurl insults?
I think you know how the lyric goes: "if you hate something, don't you do it to"
Youre right..Ill be the bigger person and let you have the last word now. Obviously that concept is lost on you.
For the record, it is quite obvious that you were not talking about your "sister" The post you quoted was directed at me. Are you 12? Twisting and lieing to get out of a tough spot? Tisk tisk.
Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
By that logic, couples should be forced to procreate.
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
ah, the sea-deep void of ignorance....i'm sure people who oppose gay marriage are REALLY oh so worried about the sanctity of marriage. i mean, god...if gays marry, society will absolutely crumble. with the tradition of marriage tainted with the likes of freddy mercury and ellen degeneres, how can we all go on? i, for one, am reeeeaaaally worried about keeping the traditional idea of marriage the same forever. it's sooooooo relevant to day-to-day life. so pathetic.
Do you see the way that tree bends?
Does it inspire?
Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
A lesson to be applied.
Best night of my life. . .
Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.
By that logic, couples should be forced to procreate.
Right. I love that logic. So infertile hetero couples obviously shouldn't be allowed to marry, since they can't procreate. And what's up with condoms and the pill? Don't they create an unnatural union? People who enter into a marriage contract should also contract with the state to shun birth control, right? Afterall, procreation is the standard by which we measure the validity of a union now.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Guess I'm a bigot then if you feel the need to label. Funny too how people who don't like others views don't feel they are bigots. But really, you are if you are unwilling to accept my opinion too. By your statement, I only lose my label if I agree with you. Isn't it amazing how tolerance tends to be one sided.
I am perfectly happy to be a bigot of bigots! I don't have a problem with that. If that's your argument... that I, or in this case jeffbr, is being bigoted against bigots... well, I find THAT to be funny!
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what the fuck do teenagers and underage kids have to do with gays being allowed to be married? two consenting, homosexual adults are a relatively different story than underage scenarios.
wow, you're really full of them aren't you?
Does it inspire?
Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
A lesson to be applied.
Best night of my life. . .
Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.
myspace.com/justonemorebottle
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
My point to this analogy was that discrimination is necessary sometimes.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
Again, discrimination is sometimes necessary.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
Does it inspire?
Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
A lesson to be applied.
Best night of my life. . .
Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.
myspace.com/justonemorebottle
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
Does it inspire?
Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
A lesson to be applied.
Best night of my life. . .
Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.
myspace.com/justonemorebottle
Does it inspire?
Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
A lesson to be applied.
Best night of my life. . .
Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.
myspace.com/justonemorebottle
What do you mean exactly when you say the above? Are you being forced to have a homosexual relationship? Or do you just not like the idea of not being able to abuse or discriminate against folks you like to pass judgment on?
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
Does it inspire?
Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
A lesson to be applied.
Best night of my life. . .
Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.
myspace.com/justonemorebottle
but i dont need the grief....
hehehehehe.................
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
the only logical rational for thinking that gay marriage is a threat to hetrosexual marriage is because she must be worried that if gay marriage were made legal her husband would divorce her and go on to marry a man
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A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
And what exactly is so disgusting?
What business is it of anyone but the two people involved?
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
show me where in that post I called anyone a name or personally attacked anyone...hell, show me where I mentioned any person in particular?
how hypocritical of you to refer to me as stupid...wouldn't that be "name calling?"
angels share laughter
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here's an idea: if you find gay marriage so disgusting then don't divorce your husband then go on to marry a woman!
what two other consenting gay or lesbian adults do has not a damn thing to do with you or your marriage
angels share laughter
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stu·pid /ˈstupɪd, ˈstyu‑/ Pronunciation Key - [stoo-pid, styoo‑] Pronunciation Key - adjective, -er, -est, noun
–adjective
1. lacking ordinary quickness and keenness of mind; dull.
2. characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness; foolish; senseless: a stupid question.
3. tediously dull, esp. due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless: a stupid party.
4. annoying or irritating; troublesome: Turn off that stupid radio.
5. in a state of stupor; stupefied: stupid from fatigue.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
no, i said that that was the only logical rational someone would have for thinking it to be a threat to hetrosexual marriage. why are you so defensive? you took it personally, and for all you know i was talking about my sister.
you've refered to me as stupid and now challenged, so to say that what you're saying is hypocritical, judgemental and moronic would just be me using adjectives that describe you, being that you're a something or someone....or is it only okay for you to hurl insults?
I think you know how the lyric goes: "if you hate something, don't you do it to"
angels share laughter
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
For the record, it is quite obvious that you were not talking about your "sister" The post you quoted was directed at me. Are you 12? Twisting and lieing to get out of a tough spot? Tisk tisk.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
Does it inspire?
Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
A lesson to be applied.
Best night of my life. . .
Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.
myspace.com/justonemorebottle
Right. I love that logic. So infertile hetero couples obviously shouldn't be allowed to marry, since they can't procreate. And what's up with condoms and the pill? Don't they create an unnatural union? People who enter into a marriage contract should also contract with the state to shun birth control, right? Afterall, procreation is the standard by which we measure the validity of a union now.
Ha ha ha! That made me laugh!
Peace and Love
Deni
I am perfectly happy to be a bigot of bigots! I don't have a problem with that. If that's your argument... that I, or in this case jeffbr, is being bigoted against bigots... well, I find THAT to be funny!
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Deni
I don't ask you to accept it. I just demand that you mind your own damn business.
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