Millions of Joules of energy from a falling building + tens of thousands of tons of combustable material + air from subway and other underground pathways + time = blast furnace
Does that work for you?
HeHeHe WoW! = blast furnace
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Millions of Joules of energy from a falling 110 story building + tens of thousands of tons of combustable material + air from subway and other underground pathways + time = blast furnace
Does that work for you?
Actually no that works for nobody...officially either.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Looks like weld slag to me. Left over from when they built the structures.
Hundreds of tons of it? Just lying around on the floors everywhere?
I suppose if they never cleaned up at all after construction i.e. passed a broom anywhere, and all the floors were poured and in place first to catch all the weldings from falling to the ground below.
I beleive they would have considered welding when they analyzed the metal via electron microscope, i.e. as to whether of not it contained traces of welding rod v.s. pure iron.
NIST still denies it molten metal findings though, which is very unusual.
Interesting how the official commission reports don't include explanations for any of this.
Pretty lousy investigation wouldn't you say?
Indeed.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
It's fun to just randomly ingnore reasonable explanations!
Woo-Hoo!
Ca-Ca! Pee-Pee! Doo-Doo!
wtf? I think you just got voted off the island.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
You would be the only one then....officially that is...meaning 9/11 commission as well.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Hey guess what? It's all been disposed of as fast as humanly possible. However the quantities sampled were consistent enough to make estimates.
Melted steel = NIST denials...hmm
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Did they sweep and wash down the streets to clean up the area you mean?
Where do you think it went? You think they just let all that asbestos blow away casually into the city with the wind for everyone to inhale?
I'm not sure what you even mean by this?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
That sounded like a ratm song in my head.
If you admit that the authorities fucked up on preventing 9/11 you're a few little steps away from the idea that they may have let it happen on purpose, but a long long way from controlled destruction.
I think the whole movement for the "truth" would have much more weight/power if it backed up a simple idea (that the authorities let it happen) rather than trying to back up a very technical theory involving college level physics.
That sounded like a ratm song in my head.
If you admit that the authorities fucked up on preventing 9/11 you're a few little steps away from the idea that they may have let it happen on purpose, but a long long way from controlled destruction.
I think the whole movement for the "truth" would have much more weight/power if it backed up a simple idea (that the authorities let it happen) rather than trying to back up a very technical theory involving college level physics.
Totally believable scenario. I've said that in another thread. Likewise they coud've been arrogant and thought they could never pull it off. In fact one of these two scenario's had to happen considering the intelligence they had. But this delusion that it was actually planned and perpetrated by the US Government is ridiculous.
And like you said it takes the spotlight and believabilty away from any kind of truth commission or enquiry.
I think the 9/11 investigation has been found to be lacking in many key areas, and it was far from a thorough, and proper, investigation.
I also think a new 9/11 investigation should be reopened, and the circumstances surrounding it revisited. Very few who know the intricacies would disagree given the evidence.
I also think all the govt restricted evidence should be released and included into this new investigation.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
who gives a flying fuck what Bill Maher thinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
Jet fuel cannot burn hot enough to melt steel. This is why pots don't melt when you cook on a gas stove. Oxygen rich fires produce very little smoke and lots of flame. Neither were present or observed.
Anyone else want to try this question?
i like how you don't answer anything i posted. i pointed out that there was a lot of shit other than jet fuel burning, and you respond again that 'jet fuel can't melt steel.' way to dodge. anyone else want to try to answer this point?
i like how you don't answer anything i posted. i pointed out that there was a lot of shit other than jet fuel burning, and you respond again that 'jet fuel can't melt steel.' way to dodge. anyone else want to try to answer this point?
i must have asked him a half a dozen times what his belief of what happened on 9-11 was.....
i still havent gotten any type of response.....
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
...and I don't mean this to out and out implicate Marvin Bush and the Bush's.... I just wonder how different these conspiracy debates would be IF, say,
Osama bin Laden's brother was in charge of WTC security in 2001?
i did. your response did nothing to rebut my points. you dodged as much as anyone else here.
Sorry I hd asked a question, and people were responding back with additional questions. Questions with questions bothers my thought process.
Which post are you referring me to that I dodged?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
i must have asked him a half a dozen times what his belief of what happened on 9-11 was.....
i still havent gotten any type of response.....
"Speedy"...I explained to you in excruciating detail why I chose not to answer your question. Please pay attention instead of displaying your personality conflicts and unnecessary aggression towards me.
It's childish...and apparent.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
...and I don't mean this to out and out implicate Marvin Bush and the Bush's.... I just wonder how different these conspiracy debates would be IF, say,
Osama bin Laden's brother was in charge of WTC security in 2001?
Hmmm.
Q: well, fuck man, if it was Osama's brother, it must have been an inside job.
A: I'll bet the 9/11 Commission Report would look a lot different, too, wouldn't it?
Q: I'll bet it would.
All I can say is I watched that video about the 9/11 conspiracy (a friend shoved it in my hand and asked me to watch it). First, you need to know I'm a radical, left-wing, liberal, I march in protest of the Iraq war and I'd be dancing if they actually impeached Bush..he needs to do jail time for his illegal activities.
Now about the subject; I don't believe the government actually planned this attack even after watching the video. Secondly I agree there are a lot of unanswered questions it brings up, that do need to be answered. But it brings it up in a way that leaves it elusive and doesn't prove anything.
We need to move on and focus on the real problems and current illegal activities that are occurring as we speak. Stand up people and let the government know you won't take anymore.
The what report?? Why can't you people believe what you saw?? All these news channels were showing the same pictures and reporting the same things as they happened. And evryone saw the second plane crash into the tower on live TV. What they've come up with after the fact is just selling airtime and papers.
If the Government was responsible why say that Osama and his boys did it, make lame arse invasion of Afganistan and then head into Iraq with all their might. Why not just say Saddam did it go after him and be done with it?
N I S T, it's an offical goverment document.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
"Speedy"...I explained to you in excruciating detail why I chose not to answer your question. Please pay attention instead of displaying your personality conflicts and unnecessary aggression towards me.
It's childish...and apparent.
Too late to cry uncle now. You are just as guilty as anyone else of not maintaining 'decorum'. Now all of the sudden you are trying to take some sort of moral high-ground?
HA! :rolleyes:
So I'll ask you. How did the towers fall? Please explain in the kind of detail that is provided in the NIST report. That means you have to explain, with proof, how explosives were planted and how they managed to set off these charges in the exact location that the planes hit as this was the point of initiation of collapse.
Too late to cry uncle now. You are just as guilty as anyone else of not maintaining 'decorum'. Now all of the sudden you are trying to take some sort of moral high-ground?
So I'll ask you. How did the towers fall? Please explain in the kind of detail that is provided in the NIST report. That means you have to explain, with proof, how explosives were planted and how they managed to set off these charges in the exact location that the planes hit as this was the point of initiation of collapse.
I await your answer.
hahahahaha good luck. seriously, he will have you believe planes did not even hit the building. yea, I just said did not hit the building. all smoke and mirrors scam performed by the media.
Too late to cry uncle now. You are just as guilty as anyone else of not maintaining 'decorum'. Now all of the sudden you are trying to take some sort of moral high-ground?
HA! :rolleyes:
So I'll ask you. How did the towers fall? Please explain in the kind of detail that is provided in the NIST report. That means you have to explain, with proof, how explosives were planted and how they managed to set off these charges in the exact location that the planes hit as this was the point of initiation of collapse.
I await your answer.
There has been no good answer. Until the cabal has been outed we are all left with speculation.
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Looks like weld slag to me. Left over from when they built the structures.
HeHeHe
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
HeHeHeHe
It's fun to just randomly ingnore reasonable explanations!
Woo-Hoo!
Ca-Ca! Pee-Pee! Doo-Doo!
Actually no that works for nobody...officially either.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
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Hundreds of tons of it? Just lying around on the floors everywhere?
I suppose if they never cleaned up at all after construction i.e. passed a broom anywhere, and all the floors were poured and in place first to catch all the weldings from falling to the ground below.
I beleive they would have considered welding when they analyzed the metal via electron microscope, i.e. as to whether of not it contained traces of welding rod v.s. pure iron.
NIST still denies it molten metal findings though, which is very unusual.
Interesting how the official commission reports don't include explanations for any of this.
Pretty lousy investigation wouldn't you say?
Indeed.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
wtf? I think you just got voted off the island.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Works for me.
Prove it.
You would be the only one then....officially that is...meaning 9/11 commission as well.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Hey guess what? It's all been disposed of as fast as humanly possible. However the quantities sampled were consistent enough to make estimates.
Melted steel = NIST denials...hmm
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Sampled and estimated by whom?
Sure! They picked up all the dust too! :rolleyes:
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Did they sweep and wash down the streets to clean up the area you mean?
Where do you think it went? You think they just let all that asbestos blow away casually into the city with the wind for everyone to inhale?
I'm not sure what you even mean by this?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
That sounded like a ratm song in my head.
If you admit that the authorities fucked up on preventing 9/11 you're a few little steps away from the idea that they may have let it happen on purpose, but a long long way from controlled destruction.
I think the whole movement for the "truth" would have much more weight/power if it backed up a simple idea (that the authorities let it happen) rather than trying to back up a very technical theory involving college level physics.
Totally believable scenario. I've said that in another thread. Likewise they coud've been arrogant and thought they could never pull it off. In fact one of these two scenario's had to happen considering the intelligence they had. But this delusion that it was actually planned and perpetrated by the US Government is ridiculous.
And like you said it takes the spotlight and believabilty away from any kind of truth commission or enquiry.
I also think a new 9/11 investigation should be reopened, and the circumstances surrounding it revisited. Very few who know the intricacies would disagree given the evidence.
I also think all the govt restricted evidence should be released and included into this new investigation.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
i like how you don't answer anything i posted. i pointed out that there was a lot of shit other than jet fuel burning, and you respond again that 'jet fuel can't melt steel.' way to dodge. anyone else want to try to answer this point?
i still havent gotten any type of response.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
i did. your response did nothing to rebut my points. you dodged as much as anyone else here.
Osama bin Laden's brother was in charge of WTC security in 2001?
Hmmm.
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Sorry I hd asked a question, and people were responding back with additional questions. Questions with questions bothers my thought process.
Which post are you referring me to that I dodged?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
"Speedy"...I explained to you in excruciating detail why I chose not to answer your question. Please pay attention instead of displaying your personality conflicts and unnecessary aggression towards me.
It's childish...and apparent.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Q: well, fuck man, if it was Osama's brother, it must have been an inside job.
A: I'll bet the 9/11 Commission Report would look a lot different, too, wouldn't it?
Q: I'll bet it would.
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Now about the subject; I don't believe the government actually planned this attack even after watching the video. Secondly I agree there are a lot of unanswered questions it brings up, that do need to be answered. But it brings it up in a way that leaves it elusive and doesn't prove anything.
We need to move on and focus on the real problems and current illegal activities that are occurring as we speak. Stand up people and let the government know you won't take anymore.
N I S T, it's an offical goverment document.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Too late to cry uncle now. You are just as guilty as anyone else of not maintaining 'decorum'. Now all of the sudden you are trying to take some sort of moral high-ground?
HA! :rolleyes:
So I'll ask you. How did the towers fall? Please explain in the kind of detail that is provided in the NIST report. That means you have to explain, with proof, how explosives were planted and how they managed to set off these charges in the exact location that the planes hit as this was the point of initiation of collapse.
I await your answer.
hahahahaha good luck. seriously, he will have you believe planes did not even hit the building. yea, I just said did not hit the building. all smoke and mirrors scam performed by the media.
There has been no good answer. Until the cabal has been outed we are all left with speculation.
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