this thread is so funny. the buildings were brought down by the planes no doubt. they were loaded with fuel and the terrorists studied the building plans for years they've attempted to bring those buildings down forever. steel melts folks!! and thats what it did. no way it was a controlled explosion.
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this thread is so funny. the buildings were brought down by the planes no doubt. they were loaded with fuel and the terrorists studied the building plans for years they've attempted to bring those buildings down forever. steel melts folks!! and thats what it did. no way it was a controlled explosion.
Of course. You know. You are the expert.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
i'm just the jack of all trades now aren't i ? i'm fucking pissing my pants here laughing...don't tell me you believe the conspiracy theories!!!
I want to know what melted the steel. How much have you studied the findings?
A lot?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Despite the worst failure in history of the military to protect American civilians, and the worst alleged engineering failures in history, there were no consequences for the responsible authorities, and no transparent investigations.
Oh so now we have a comedian that is now an authority on the subject... right... look at the facts... something isnt right with that day
Anybody who swallows the offical story hook line and sinker. Is a national hero round here. This all must be your wet dream.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
One more time: A BUNCH CRAZY ARAB FLEW PLANS FULL OF JET FUEL INTO THE WTC BUILDINGS AND THE EXPLOSION AND ENSUING FIRE MELTED A POORLY DESIGNED CONSTRUCTION. When these massive buildings come down they unstablised the buildings around them and they eventually come down too.
Wow have you read the NIST report? where'd you get that info from?
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
I have yet to hear one "official story" believer give me a legitimate reason for the pools of liquefied steel. Jet fuel can do that?
hmm
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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This was great when I saw it the first time and it's even beter now.
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I have yet to hear one "official story" believer give me a legitimate reason for the pools of liquefied steel. Jet fuel can do that?
hmm
there was a helluva lot more than jet fuel in there chief. sure, drop a stell ingot in a pool of burning jet fuel and MAYBE the steel won't melt. but that's not what happened that day. a building already weakened by the sheer force of being broadsides by a huge passenger jet caught fire... there was burning jet fuel and it ignited everything on probably 10 floors in that building... wood, plastic, paper, plaster, etc. there was fresh oxygen being pumped in through the hole in the wall. wind to fan the flames. it's a little bit different environment than any lab experiment i ever heard of. seems utterly plausible to me. a helluva lot more plausible than a government conspiracy involving thousands of people none of whom spoke a word about the greatest atrocity perpetrated on our soil in american history.
Bill Maher's full of shit. CNN make him out to be the voice of Liberal America, when in actual fact he's just another functionary.
Not everbody who doubts the official story believes that the Government actually carried out the attacks, or that they brought down the twin towers e.t.c. In my opnion these things are a diversionary tactic to stop people simply realising that the Government possessed prior warning of the attacks and that they allowed them to happen. The evidence for this is indisputable.
Wow have you read the NIST report? where'd you get that info from?
The what report?? Why can't you people believe what you saw?? All these news channels were showing the same pictures and reporting the same things as they happened. And evryone saw the second plane crash into the tower on live TV. What they've come up with after the fact is just selling airtime and papers.
If the Government was responsible why say that Osama and his boys did it, make lame arse invasion of Afganistan and then head into Iraq with all their might. Why not just say Saddam did it go after him and be done with it?
I want to know what melted the steel. How much have you studied the findings?
A lot?
yes i have studied them alot before they removed alot of the information from the internet but i'm not about to get into it with you...you're sorta hard headed and this will go on for days. one thing i will say is not even the devil is evil enough to concoct a plan of that magnitude and people that believe the conspiracy theories are screwed together very loosely.
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Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
yes i have studied them alot before they removed alot of the information from the internet but i'm not about to get into it with you...you're sorta hard headed and this will go on for days. one thing i will say is not even the devil is evil enough to concoct a plan of that magnitude and people that believe the conspiracy theories are screwed together very loosely.
And people that place all the 'conspiracy theorists' within the same bracket are also delusional. The government had prior warning, and detailed knowlege of the plans for the attacks, and they did nothing. No combat aircraft were scrambled for the first time out of 100 routine scramblings that year. Coincidence? Dream on.
The Neo cons wanted a new Pearl Harbour, and they got one.
And people that place all the 'conspiracy theorists' within the same bracket are also delusional. The government had prior warning, and detailed knowlege of the plans for the attacks, and they did nothing. No combat aircraft were scrambled for the first time out of 100 routine scramblings that year. Coincidence? Dream on.
The Neo cons wanted a new Pearl Harbour, and they got one.
i might be willing to consider that theory. but the whole "there were no planes and it was a bomb in the building" nonsense is ridiculous. my first thought when the towers went down was 'dubya is untouchable now and we're in deep shit.' i'm not sure he personally was in on it, but i can easily see some of the characters surrounding him turning a blind eye to this to become politically invincible. he was the perfect puppet too becos he is such an ideologue his sincerity would cover the shady stuff going on behind the scenes.
there was a helluva lot more than jet fuel in there chief. sure, drop a stell ingot in a pool of burning jet fuel and MAYBE the steel won't melt. but that's not what happened that day. a building already weakened by the sheer force of being broadsides by a huge passenger jet caught fire... there was burning jet fuel and it ignited everything on probably 10 floors in that building... wood, plastic, paper, plaster, etc. there was fresh oxygen being pumped in through the hole in the wall. wind to fan the flames. it's a little bit different environment than any lab experiment i ever heard of. seems utterly plausible to me. a helluva lot more plausible than a government conspiracy involving thousands of people none of whom spoke a word about the greatest atrocity perpetrated on our soil in american history.
Jet fuel cannot burn hot enough to melt steel. This is why pots don't melt when you cook on a gas stove. Oxygen rich fires produce very little smoke and lots of flame. Neither were present or observed.
Anyone else want to try this question?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
yes i have studied them alot before they removed alot of the information from the internet but i'm not about to get into it with you...you're sorta hard headed and this will go on for days. one thing i will say is not even the devil is evil enough to concoct a plan of that magnitude and people that believe the conspiracy theories are screwed together very loosely.
It's because you can't explain it. Don't kid yourself.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Jet fuel cannot burn hot enough to melt steel. This is why pots don't melt when you cook on a gas stove. Oxygen rich fires produce very little smoke and lots of flame. Neither were present or observed.
Anyone else want to try this question?
They're under the illusion that the planes hitting the building weakened the steel. Then the preceding fires apparently melted the steel and down goes the the buildings just like "down goes Frazier".
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
And people that place all the 'conspiracy theorists' within the same bracket are also delusional. The government had prior warning, and detailed knowlege of the plans for the attacks, and they did nothing. No combat aircraft were scrambled for the first time out of 100 routine scramblings that year. Coincidence? Dream on.
The Neo cons wanted a new Pearl Harbour, and they got one.
Bill Mahr denounces 9/11 just like Alex Jones admits he cannot talk openly or negatively about Zionism.
They both know will lose their voice and be shut down....and promptly.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
They're under the illusion that the planes hitting the building weakened the steel. Then the preceding fires apparently melted the steel and down goes the the buildings just like "down goes Frazier".
Peace
A large portion of the jet fuel burned off outside the buildings, and what remained inside burned up within a few minutes.
So essentially all the jet fuel did in this equation was serve as a means to ignite a basic office fire. Firemen on the scene at the floors confirmed this, that indeed the fire was isolated and easily manageable.
From the outside the lack of flames, and heavy black smoke, would in fact confirm this.
So again where are the steel melting temperatures coming from?
anyone?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Grow up...get over yourself man.. You lost an argument.... big deal ...let your ego heal already. It's a day later
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Steel didn't have to melt for the towers to collapse it just had to weaken.
Booyah!
Ok...maybe I just imagined typing it a few times now...what melted the steel then?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Steel didn't have to melt for the towers to collapse it just had to weaken.
Booyah!
Unbelievable that you could say this and believe this. Wow
Peace
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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Can you see me now
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Where it takes me
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Of course. You know. You are the expert.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
I want to know what melted the steel. How much have you studied the findings?
A lot?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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but we know that isnt possible
You got to spend it all
Anybody who swallows the offical story hook line and sinker. Is a national hero round here. This all must be your wet dream.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Wow have you read the NIST report? where'd you get that info from?
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
hmm
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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part2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOWu8T8F5W4
part3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJRetQUTEWA
part4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLi1uvqKXNs
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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( o.O)
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Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
there was a helluva lot more than jet fuel in there chief. sure, drop a stell ingot in a pool of burning jet fuel and MAYBE the steel won't melt. but that's not what happened that day. a building already weakened by the sheer force of being broadsides by a huge passenger jet caught fire... there was burning jet fuel and it ignited everything on probably 10 floors in that building... wood, plastic, paper, plaster, etc. there was fresh oxygen being pumped in through the hole in the wall. wind to fan the flames. it's a little bit different environment than any lab experiment i ever heard of. seems utterly plausible to me. a helluva lot more plausible than a government conspiracy involving thousands of people none of whom spoke a word about the greatest atrocity perpetrated on our soil in american history.
Not everbody who doubts the official story believes that the Government actually carried out the attacks, or that they brought down the twin towers e.t.c. In my opnion these things are a diversionary tactic to stop people simply realising that the Government possessed prior warning of the attacks and that they allowed them to happen. The evidence for this is indisputable.
The what report?? Why can't you people believe what you saw?? All these news channels were showing the same pictures and reporting the same things as they happened. And evryone saw the second plane crash into the tower on live TV. What they've come up with after the fact is just selling airtime and papers.
If the Government was responsible why say that Osama and his boys did it, make lame arse invasion of Afganistan and then head into Iraq with all their might. Why not just say Saddam did it go after him and be done with it?
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
And people that place all the 'conspiracy theorists' within the same bracket are also delusional. The government had prior warning, and detailed knowlege of the plans for the attacks, and they did nothing. No combat aircraft were scrambled for the first time out of 100 routine scramblings that year. Coincidence? Dream on.
The Neo cons wanted a new Pearl Harbour, and they got one.
i might be willing to consider that theory. but the whole "there were no planes and it was a bomb in the building" nonsense is ridiculous. my first thought when the towers went down was 'dubya is untouchable now and we're in deep shit.' i'm not sure he personally was in on it, but i can easily see some of the characters surrounding him turning a blind eye to this to become politically invincible. he was the perfect puppet too becos he is such an ideologue his sincerity would cover the shady stuff going on behind the scenes.
maybe we can drop it.
still doesn't discount that a Bush was head of security at the WTC and jet fuel isn't hot enough to melt steel.
Jet fuel cannot burn hot enough to melt steel. This is why pots don't melt when you cook on a gas stove. Oxygen rich fires produce very little smoke and lots of flame. Neither were present or observed.
Anyone else want to try this question?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
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It's because you can't explain it. Don't kid yourself.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
They're under the illusion that the planes hitting the building weakened the steel. Then the preceding fires apparently melted the steel and down goes the the buildings just like "down goes Frazier".
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Bill Mahr denounces 9/11 just like Alex Jones admits he cannot talk openly or negatively about Zionism.
They both know will lose their voice and be shut down....and promptly.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
A large portion of the jet fuel burned off outside the buildings, and what remained inside burned up within a few minutes.
So essentially all the jet fuel did in this equation was serve as a means to ignite a basic office fire. Firemen on the scene at the floors confirmed this, that indeed the fire was isolated and easily manageable.
From the outside the lack of flames, and heavy black smoke, would in fact confirm this.
So again where are the steel melting temperatures coming from?
anyone?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Grow up...get over yourself man.. You lost an argument.... big deal ...let your ego heal already. It's a day later
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Steel didn't have to melt for the towers to collapse it just had to weaken.
Booyah!
Ok...maybe I just imagined typing it a few times now...what melted the steel then?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
what do YOU believe caused the buildings to collapse????
in your opinion.....what events took place in order for those buildings to collapse???
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Unbelievable that you could say this and believe this. Wow
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)