Bill Maher thinks you're a fucking loony

69charger

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

However the quantities sampled were consistent enough to make estimates.

Sampled and estimated by whom?

69charger

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Hey guess what? It's all been disposed of as fast as humanly possible.

Sure! They picked up all the dust too! :rolleyes:

RolandTD20Kdrummer

69charger wrote:

Sampled and estimated by whom?

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RolandTD20Kdrummer

69charger wrote:

Sure! They picked up all the dust too! :rolleyes:

Did they sweep and wash down the streets to clean up the area you mean?

Where do you think it went? You think they just let all that asbestos blow away casually into the city with the wind for everyone to inhale?

I'm not sure what you even mean by this?

Kann

69charger wrote:

Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.

That sounded like a ratm song in my head.
If you admit that the authorities fucked up on preventing 9/11 you're a few little steps away from the idea that they may have let it happen on purpose, but a long long way from controlled destruction.
I think the whole movement for the "truth" would have much more weight/power if it backed up a simple idea (that the authorities let it happen) rather than trying to back up a very technical theory involving college level physics.

Austicman

Kann wrote:

That sounded like a ratm song in my head.
If you admit that the authorities fucked up on preventing 9/11 you're a few little steps away from the idea that they may have let it happen on purpose, but a long long way from controlled destruction.
I think the whole movement for the "truth" would have much more weight/power if it backed up a simple idea (that the authorities let it happen) rather than trying to back up a very technical theory involving college level physics.

Totally believable scenario. I've said that in another thread. Likewise they coud've been arrogant and thought they could never pull it off. In fact one of these two scenario's had to happen considering the intelligence they had. But this delusion that it was actually planned and perpetrated by the US Government is ridiculous.

And like you said it takes the spotlight and believabilty away from any kind of truth commission or enquiry.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I think the 9/11 investigation has been found to be lacking in many key areas, and it was far from a thorough, and proper, investigation.

I also think a new 9/11 investigation should be reopened, and the circumstances surrounding it revisited. Very few who know the intricacies would disagree given the evidence.

I also think all the govt restricted evidence should be released and included into this new investigation.

JamMastaE

who gives a flying fuck what Bill Maher thinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

soulsinging

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Jet fuel cannot burn hot enough to melt steel. This is why pots don't melt when you cook on a gas stove. Oxygen rich fires produce very little smoke and lots of flame. Neither were present or observed.

Anyone else want to try this question?

i like how you don't answer anything i posted. i pointed out that there was a lot of shit other than jet fuel burning, and you respond again that 'jet fuel can't melt steel.' way to dodge. anyone else want to try to answer this point?

SPEEDY MCCREADY

soulsinging wrote:

i like how you don't answer anything i posted. i pointed out that there was a lot of shit other than jet fuel burning, and you respond again that 'jet fuel can't melt steel.' way to dodge. anyone else want to try to answer this point?

i must have asked him a half a dozen times what his belief of what happened on 9-11 was.....

i still havent gotten any type of response.....

soulsinging

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I posed a serious and extremely legitimate question. No one has yet answered it.

What does it matter what I think?

Look at the facts of the matter?

Does opinion rule you?

i did. your response did nothing to rebut my points. you dodged as much as anyone else here.

gue_barium

...and I don't mean this to out and out implicate Marvin Bush and the Bush's.... I just wonder how different these conspiracy debates would be IF, say,
Osama bin Laden's brother was in charge of WTC security in 2001?

Hmmm.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

soulsinging wrote:

i did. your response did nothing to rebut my points. you dodged as much as anyone else here.

Sorry I hd asked a question, and people were responding back with additional questions. Questions with questions bothers my thought process.

Which post are you referring me to that I dodged?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

i must have asked him a half a dozen times what his belief of what happened on 9-11 was.....

i still havent gotten any type of response.....

"Speedy"...I explained to you in excruciating detail why I chose not to answer your question. Please pay attention instead of displaying your personality conflicts and unnecessary aggression towards me.

It's childish...and apparent.

gue_barium

gue_barium wrote:

...and I don't mean this to out and out implicate Marvin Bush and the Bush's.... I just wonder how different these conspiracy debates would be IF, say,
Osama bin Laden's brother was in charge of WTC security in 2001?

Hmmm.

Q: well, fuck man, if it was Osama's brother, it must have been an inside job.
A: I'll bet the 9/11 Commission Report would look a lot different, too, wouldn't it?
Q: I'll bet it would.

Surf Life

All I can say is I watched that video about the 9/11 conspiracy (a friend shoved it in my hand and asked me to watch it). First, you need to know I'm a radical, left-wing, liberal, I march in protest of the Iraq war and I'd be dancing if they actually impeached Bush..he needs to do jail time for his illegal activities.

Now about the subject; I don't believe the government actually planned this attack even after watching the video. Secondly I agree there are a lot of unanswered questions it brings up, that do need to be answered. But it brings it up in a way that leaves it elusive and doesn't prove anything.

We need to move on and focus on the real problems and current illegal activities that are occurring as we speak. Stand up people and let the government know you won't take anymore.

spiral out

Austicman wrote:

The what report?? Why can't you people believe what you saw?? All these news channels were showing the same pictures and reporting the same things as they happened. And evryone saw the second plane crash into the tower on live TV. What they've come up with after the fact is just selling airtime and papers.

If the Government was responsible why say that Osama and his boys did it, make lame arse invasion of Afganistan and then head into Iraq with all their might. Why not just say Saddam did it go after him and be done with it?

N I S T, it's an offical goverment document.

69charger

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

"Speedy"...I explained to you in excruciating detail why I chose not to answer your question. Please pay attention instead of displaying your personality conflicts and unnecessary aggression towards me.

It's childish...and apparent.

Too late to cry uncle now. You are just as guilty as anyone else of not maintaining 'decorum'. Now all of the sudden you are trying to take some sort of moral high-ground?

HA! :rolleyes:

So I'll ask you. How did the towers fall? Please explain in the kind of detail that is provided in the NIST report. That means you have to explain, with proof, how explosives were planted and how they managed to set off these charges in the exact location that the planes hit as this was the point of initiation of collapse.

I await your answer.

jlew24asu

69charger wrote:

Too late to cry uncle now. You are just as guilty as anyone else of not maintaining 'decorum'. Now all of the sudden you are trying to take some sort of moral high-ground?

HA! :rolleyes:

he does it every time.

69charger wrote:

So I'll ask you. How did the towers fall? Please explain in the kind of detail that is provided in the NIST report. That means you have to explain, with proof, how explosives were planted and how they managed to set off these charges in the exact location that the planes hit as this was the point of initiation of collapse.

I await your answer.

hahahahaha good luck. seriously, he will have you believe planes did not even hit the building. yea, I just said did not hit the building. all smoke and mirrors scam performed by the media.

gue_barium

69charger wrote:

Too late to cry uncle now. You are just as guilty as anyone else of not maintaining 'decorum'. Now all of the sudden you are trying to take some sort of moral high-ground?

HA! :rolleyes:

So I'll ask you. How did the towers fall? Please explain in the kind of detail that is provided in the NIST report. That means you have to explain, with proof, how explosives were planted and how they managed to set off these charges in the exact location that the planes hit as this was the point of initiation of collapse.

I await your answer.

There has been no good answer. Until the cabal has been outed we are all left with speculation.