what do YOU believe caused the buildings to collapse????
in your opinion.....what events took place in order for those buildings to collapse???
I just want to know what you all think melted the steel. I would like to hear just one legitimate explanation.
The melted steel is not a casual finding at all.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
There is no conspiracy. They found the WMD. The Iraq war is a success. All the govt tells is the truth apparently.
You just highlighted the major flaw in your delusional beliefs. If the US gov't had staged the entire 9/11 incident, flown planes full of innocents to their death, rigged the towers with explosives that killed thousands more innocents, why didn't they plant the WMDs to be found? That's why they went to Iraq. When none were discovered a new "war on terror" excuse had to be made. If the administration were so clever, and this entire thing were as scripted as you looneys belive, why didn't the US gov't plant tons of WMDs throught Iraq?
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
You just highlighted the major flaw in your delusional beliefs. If the US gov't had staged the entire 9/11 incident, flown planes full of innocents to their death, rigged the towers with explosives that killed thousands more innocents, why didn't they plant the WMDs to be found? That's why they went to Iraq. When none were discovered a new "war on terror" excuse had to be made. If the administration were so clever, and this entire thing were as scripted as you looneys belive, why didn't the US gov't plant tons of WMDs throught Iraq?
That is totally unrelated and easily explainable, and for a few reasons.
If you could address my question instead side stepping it.
thx
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
i just want to know what YOU believed happened that day to cause those building to fall.....
The crux of the argument is, stemming from my original question, which need not be responded to with yet another question in order to to sidetrack the immediate issue...
Somebody explain to me why (or how) you think the steel melted?
How was this possible from jet fuel exactly?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
The crux of the argument is, stemming from my original question, which need not be responded to with yet another question in order to to sidetrack the immediate issue...
Somebody explain to me why (or how) you think the steel melted?
How was this possible from jet fuel exactly?
please inform the rest of us of what YOU believed happened in order for those buildings to collapse like they did.....
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
please inform the rest of us of what YOU believed happened in order for those buildings to collapse like they did.....
I posed a serious and extremely legitimate question. No one has yet answered it.
What does it matter what I think?
Look at the facts of the matter?
Does opinion rule you?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
"Newspapers and TV newscasts reported that the twin towers had been designed to withstand a collision with a Boeing 707. The events of September 11th show that this was indeed the case. "However, the World Trade Center was never designed for the massive explosions nor the intense jet fuel fires that came next—a key design omission," stated Eduardo Kausel, another M.I.T. professor of civil and environmental engineering and panel member. The towers collapsed only after the kerosene fuel fire compromised the integrity of their structural tubes: One WTC lasted for 105 minutes, whereas Two WTC remained standing for 47 minutes. "It was designed for the type of fire you'd expect in an office building—paper, desks, drapes," McNamara said. The aviation fuel fires that broke out burned at a much hotter temperature than the typical contents of an office. "At about 800 degrees Fahrenheit structural steel starts to lose its strength; at 1,500 degrees F, all bets are off as steel members become significantly weakened," he explained."
Now answer my "unrelated" question, which is actually directly related to the lunatic ravings of conspiracy theorists. Why weren't WMDs found if this was such a masterfully scripted scenario?
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
i posed a serious and pretty simple question to you....
what do you believe happened to cause those buildings to collapse????
You're baiting me, and detracting from the original issue. I'm not getting into it with you for that reason alone.
I could very easily however, perhaps in another thread...perhaps another time.
Anyone else?
Thx
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
you know, the WTC weren't constructed like other normal buildings had been up to that time. they were unique in that their support came from the central configuration of columns placed, funnily enough, within the centre of the buildings, AS WELL as around the outside of the buildings. apparently this gave the buildings the advantage of being especially stable. i imagine a 9/11 scenario wasn't factored into the equation. one would wonder how that would be anyway imo. perhaps maybe an accidental collision but a deliberate act, i don't know.
and something else i was just thinking about. BOTH towers fell in identical circumstances. wouldn't that mean that ALL the circumstances involved in the collapse of BOTH towers would have to be the same in order to produce the same effect? just wondering tis all.
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Now answer my "unrelated" question, which is actually directly related to the lunatic ravings of conspiracy theorists. Why weren't WMDs found if this was such a masterfully scripted scenario?
and of the melted steel? your thoughts?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
You're baiting me, and detracting from the original issue. I'm not getting into it with you for that reason alone.
I could very easily however, perhaps in another thread...perhaps another time.
Anyone else?
Thx
im asking you a simple question....
i was curious to see what you belive to be cause of those buildings to collapse....
i was curious to see what events you believe took part on 9-11....
im sorry....they just seemed like questions that you would be more than happy to answer since you seem to have done plenty of research on 9-11............
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
i was curious to see what you belive to be cause of those buildings to collapse....
i was curious to see what events you believe took part on 9-11....
im sorry....they just seemed like questions that you would be more than happy to answer since you seem to have done plenty of research on 9-11............
Sorry I don't feel like getting into it at this time. I'm more into talking about the heart of the matter "condensed version" than all the static surrounding it.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Sorry I don't feel like getting into it at this time. I'm more into talking about the heart of the matter "condensed version" than all the static surrounding it.
oh i understand....
cuz at this moment i dont feel like talking about melting steel.....
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
You just highlighted the major flaw in your delusional beliefs. If the US gov't had staged the entire 9/11 incident, flown planes full of innocents to their death, rigged the towers with explosives that killed thousands more innocents, why didn't they plant the WMDs to be found? That's why they went to Iraq. When none were discovered a new "war on terror" excuse had to be made. If the administration were so clever, and this entire thing were as scripted as you looneys belive, why didn't the US gov't plant tons of WMDs throught Iraq?
This is a legitimate supposition and I'll give my assessment of it. Yes it would've have been quite easy to plant WMD in Iraq but there was a bigger plan in going into Iraq. The US needed the American people behind the country in whatever country, wherever the US decided it was going to invade.
With an event like 9/II the atmosphere of FEAR is there to change laws, deny rights, implement Patriot Acts, torture becomes permissible and so on. As for Iraq under the 9/II event it could still be claimed Iraq has WMD through the media influenced through Pentagon officials. We then can control the oil, occupy the country, build permanent military bases and most of all a sustained military occupation makes that "War on Terror" a profiteering venture...Haliburton, KBR and our US oil companies.
If we had planted those WMD's and then invaded Iraq the country would not backed US government to invade another country. They needed the country mad enough and wanting revenge disregarding any sane plausibility that these WMD's couldn't be in Iraq. Similar to Pearl Harbour, before the attack in 1941 a small percentage 15% wanted a war after the attack 91%. That's a huge jump and that's exactly what happened after 9/II.
One the country would back the US under the threat of FEAR, wholeheartedly which brings forth the many advantages above. The other not enough advantages to be had.....war profiteering, lack of FEAR with not being attacked, country not backing the govt and control of the region which then leads to other invasions like Iran.
Peace
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
cuz at this moment i dont feel like talking about melting steel.....
Not exactly. It really doesn't matter what I think, or what anybody "thinks".
I'd rather leave pointless conversations about opinions aside exactly where they belong, and talk about facts of the matter.
It couldn't have been such a great investigation if no one can approach or explain why there were pools of melted steel found at ground zero.
I want to know why, and what caused it.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
it really doesnt matter what you think.................
My god you're predictable.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Did you know that sulfur in a fire is capable of causing melt
formation in steel at lower temperatures than it would otherwise
occur?
Take a read: http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Biederman/Biederman-0112.html
"Rapid deterioration of the steel was a result of heating with
oxidation in combination with intergranular melting due to the
presence of *sulfur*. The formation of the eutectic *mixture* of iron
oxide and iron sulfide *lowers the temperature at which liquid can
form* in this steel. This strongly suggests that the temperatures in
this region of the steel beam approached *~1,000ºC*, forming the
eutectic *liquid* by a process similar to making a "blacksmith's weld"
in a hand forge." (emphases mine)
Where does this sulfur come from? No, not thermate:
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2003-01/nsf-sfg011603.php
"The high levels of calcium, strontium, and *sulfur* concentrations
found in the near-surface sediments of the cores, are *consistent*
with presence of *gypsum* as a parent material. Gypsum is extensively
used as drywall in building construction. Copper and zinc are also
common components of building materials. The scientists observed that
this near-surface sediment layer also contained silica-rich fibers and
rods, which may reflect the input of fiberglass from ceiling tiles and
other materials in the World Trade Center towers." (emphases mine
also)
So what appears to have happened at the WTC is that the burning
drywall (Gypsum), fuel from the planes, and more, released large
amounts of sulfur. This would not only have aided in collapsing the
towers due to easier melt formation, but also in generating the
massive amounts of molten steel that were observed in the piles many
months afterwards -- too much time to be accounted for by thermite as
the amount of thermite required could not be hidden.
The huge rubble pile that was created after the collapse was
essentially a big chemistry lab. You've got all sorts of material
burning and releasing molecules of every sort imaginable, all whizzing
around at very high temperature. In addition the pile traps heat. This
heat would cause oxidation of the iron, releasing more heat, which in
turn not only heats the iron more but also all the other combustible
fuels, increasing the amount of free gases and other substances ready
to react with metal, for example sulfur from gypsum would cause
sulfidation of the iron. This mixture of oxidation and sulfidation
promotes liquid formation. So we have the temperature in the pile
going up, and the melting point going down. Once they meet -- bam!
Molten steel! And with a pile that big, it could literally go on for
months. Other sources of sulfur include various petroleum derivatives,
such as generator fuels. In addition sulfur dioxide -- burned sulfur
-- is an oxidizing agent in and of itself (http://www.debunking911.com/
ironburns.htm, http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/mhmi/mmg116.html), and is also
capable of triggering combustion (oxidative chain reaction) of the
iron, and hence lots of heat -- leading to further increase in the
melt volume.
So if molten steel really was found, then this explains it, 100%. No
thermite or thermate or any other incendiary preplaced charges
required at all. Bam. Official theory still stands strong and proud,
and 9/11 Truther theory has crumbled to dust, just like the Twin
Towers.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
That's based off the FEMA findings, of which NIST dropped like a hot potato and now denies the finding of any melted steel.
What about the findings of tiny pellets of melted steel found in the dust that blanketed everything?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
So what appears to have happened at the WTC is that the burning
drywall (Gypsum), fuel from the planes, and more, released large
amounts of sulfur. This would not only have aided in collapsing the
towers due to easier melt formation, but also in generating the
massive amounts of molten steel that were observed in the piles many
months afterwards -- too much time to be accounted for by thermite as
the amount of thermite required could not be hidden.
The huge rubble pile that was created after the collapse was
essentially a big chemistry lab. You've got all sorts of material
burning and releasing molecules of every sort imaginable, all whizzing
around at very high temperature. In addition the pile traps heat. This
heat would cause oxidation of the iron, releasing more heat, which in
turn not only heats the iron more but also all the other combustible
fuels, increasing the amount of free gases and other substances ready
to react with metal, for example sulfur from gypsum would cause
sulfidation of the iron. This mixture of oxidation and sulfidation
promotes liquid formation. So we have the temperature in the pile
going up, and the melting point going down. Once they meet -- bam!
Molten steel! And with a pile that big, it could literally go on for
months. Other sources of sulfur include various petroleum derivatives,
such as generator fuels. In addition sulfur dioxide -- burned sulfur
-- is an oxidizing agent in and of itself (http://www.debunking911.com/
ironburns.htm, http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/mhmi/mmg116.html), and is also
capable of triggering combustion (oxidative chain reaction) of the
iron, and hence lots of heat -- leading to further increase in the
melt volume.
So if molten steel really was found, then this explains it, 100%. No
thermite or thermate or any other incendiary preplaced charges
required at all. Bam. Official theory still stands strong and proud,
and 9/11 Truther theory has crumbled to dust, just like the Twin
Towers.
this explanation fucking wins the "duh!" award.
i really do have to say, 911 "truthers" need to step back and reexamine the "evidence". If the executive planned the detonation of buildings and missles strikes against the pentagon. evidence of such plans would have hit the news long ago. quite simply, too many "ground troops" would be needed. Cheney ain't gonna rig up the demo. And bush ain't firing any missles.
The cold reality is,
if there is any truth in that day outside of it being the generaly accepted "epic blunder", it would be a conspiracy to not act. In otherwords the other side of the 911 Truth movement, the ones that have been the mute minority -- the LIHOPers [Let It Happen On Purposes] -- are likely to be the ones who see it for what it is [ok, arguably may ahve been].
Either it was a blunder of government ineptitude, or they wanted it to happen so bad they simply new what actions needed to be taken to avoid such a calamity and deliberately neglected to take action. I tend to think there is a case for this, given all the warnings, the fact that we knew these people were in the country, we had the flight school records, we were watching them take the classes, we had several of them housed up with an FBI informant, letters were sent to several figures of authority in the FBI, Porter Goss was meeting with the ISI Chief Mahmoud Ahmad (the guy who wired 100K to Attah) a week before 911, he was here on 911 proper, Bush got a directive saying "Bin Laden determined to strike in US" etc etc etc ... it goes on and on and on ...
i dunno.
just sayin'.
if it did go down all sinister deadly ganster like, that is how it went down.
now PLEASE stop arguing over exploding towers.
it makes me sad.
ask 69charger, he beat me over the head until i cried.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Anyhow here are 4 legitimate sources that found previously molten metal "precipitate" (i.e. tiny liquefied, then solidified, iron spheres) everywhere in the dust that blanketed lower Manhattan.
It is estimated that 800 tons of this precipitated liquefied iron was found of the 100,000 tons of dust collected.
1. H. A. Lowers et al. “Particle Atlas of World Trade Center Dust.” USGS Open-File Report 2005-1165, (2005)
2. Various authors: “U.S. EPA Response to the Peer Review of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s Final Report on the World Trade Center Dust Screening Study.” Page 28, (December 2006)
3. R. J. Lee et al. “Damage Assessment 130 Liberty Street Property: WTC Dust Signature Report on Composition and Morphology.” Issued December 2003.
4. S. R. Badger et al. “World Trade Center Particulate Contamination Signature Based on Dust Composition and Morphology.” Microscopy and Microanalysis 10 (Supplement 2), 948, (2004).
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
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Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
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Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
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Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
The crux of the argument is, stemming from my original question, which need not be responded to with yet another question in order to to sidetrack the immediate issue...
Somebody explain to me why (or how) you think the steel melted?
It couldn't have been such a great investigation if no one can approach or explain why there were pools of melted steel found at ground zero.
I want to know why, and what caused it.
I can.
Millions of Joules of energy from a falling 110 story building + tens of thousands of tons of combustable material + air from subway and other underground pathways + time = blast furnace
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I just want to know what you all think melted the steel. I would like to hear just one legitimate explanation.
The melted steel is not a casual finding at all.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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i just want to know what YOU believed happened that day to cause those building to fall.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
You just highlighted the major flaw in your delusional beliefs. If the US gov't had staged the entire 9/11 incident, flown planes full of innocents to their death, rigged the towers with explosives that killed thousands more innocents, why didn't they plant the WMDs to be found? That's why they went to Iraq. When none were discovered a new "war on terror" excuse had to be made. If the administration were so clever, and this entire thing were as scripted as you looneys belive, why didn't the US gov't plant tons of WMDs throught Iraq?
That is totally unrelated and easily explainable, and for a few reasons.
If you could address my question instead side stepping it.
thx
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
The crux of the argument is, stemming from my original question, which need not be responded to with yet another question in order to to sidetrack the immediate issue...
Somebody explain to me why (or how) you think the steel melted?
How was this possible from jet fuel exactly?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
I posed a serious and extremely legitimate question. No one has yet answered it.
What does it matter what I think?
Look at the facts of the matter?
Does opinion rule you?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
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(")_(")
I already did in another thread.
Now answer my "unrelated" question, which is actually directly related to the lunatic ravings of conspiracy theorists. Why weren't WMDs found if this was such a masterfully scripted scenario?
i posed a serious and pretty simple question to you....
what do you believe happened to cause those buildings to collapse????
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
You're baiting me, and detracting from the original issue. I'm not getting into it with you for that reason alone.
I could very easily however, perhaps in another thread...perhaps another time.
Anyone else?
Thx
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
and something else i was just thinking about. BOTH towers fell in identical circumstances. wouldn't that mean that ALL the circumstances involved in the collapse of BOTH towers would have to be the same in order to produce the same effect? just wondering tis all.
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hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
and of the melted steel? your thoughts?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
i was curious to see what you belive to be cause of those buildings to collapse....
i was curious to see what events you believe took part on 9-11....
im sorry....they just seemed like questions that you would be more than happy to answer since you seem to have done plenty of research on 9-11............
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Sorry I don't feel like getting into it at this time. I'm more into talking about the heart of the matter "condensed version" than all the static surrounding it.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
cuz at this moment i dont feel like talking about melting steel.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Oh please. You'd have to NOT be a loony to believe that.
This is a legitimate supposition and I'll give my assessment of it. Yes it would've have been quite easy to plant WMD in Iraq but there was a bigger plan in going into Iraq. The US needed the American people behind the country in whatever country, wherever the US decided it was going to invade.
With an event like 9/II the atmosphere of FEAR is there to change laws, deny rights, implement Patriot Acts, torture becomes permissible and so on. As for Iraq under the 9/II event it could still be claimed Iraq has WMD through the media influenced through Pentagon officials. We then can control the oil, occupy the country, build permanent military bases and most of all a sustained military occupation makes that "War on Terror" a profiteering venture...Haliburton, KBR and our US oil companies.
If we had planted those WMD's and then invaded Iraq the country would not backed US government to invade another country. They needed the country mad enough and wanting revenge disregarding any sane plausibility that these WMD's couldn't be in Iraq. Similar to Pearl Harbour, before the attack in 1941 a small percentage 15% wanted a war after the attack 91%. That's a huge jump and that's exactly what happened after 9/II.
One the country would back the US under the threat of FEAR, wholeheartedly which brings forth the many advantages above. The other not enough advantages to be had.....war profiteering, lack of FEAR with not being attacked, country not backing the govt and control of the region which then leads to other invasions like Iran.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Not exactly. It really doesn't matter what I think, or what anybody "thinks".
I'd rather leave pointless conversations about opinions aside exactly where they belong, and talk about facts of the matter.
It couldn't have been such a great investigation if no one can approach or explain why there were pools of melted steel found at ground zero.
I want to know why, and what caused it.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
im not a loony. ask anyone, they'll tell you, right guys?
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
it really doesnt matter what you think.................
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
My god you're predictable.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
This is one of the better explanations I've read:
That's based off the FEMA findings, of which NIST dropped like a hot potato and now denies the finding of any melted steel.
What about the findings of tiny pellets of melted steel found in the dust that blanketed everything?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
this explanation fucking wins the "duh!" award.
i really do have to say, 911 "truthers" need to step back and reexamine the "evidence". If the executive planned the detonation of buildings and missles strikes against the pentagon. evidence of such plans would have hit the news long ago. quite simply, too many "ground troops" would be needed. Cheney ain't gonna rig up the demo. And bush ain't firing any missles.
The cold reality is,
if there is any truth in that day outside of it being the generaly accepted "epic blunder", it would be a conspiracy to not act. In otherwords the other side of the 911 Truth movement, the ones that have been the mute minority -- the LIHOPers [Let It Happen On Purposes] -- are likely to be the ones who see it for what it is [ok, arguably may ahve been].
Either it was a blunder of government ineptitude, or they wanted it to happen so bad they simply new what actions needed to be taken to avoid such a calamity and deliberately neglected to take action. I tend to think there is a case for this, given all the warnings, the fact that we knew these people were in the country, we had the flight school records, we were watching them take the classes, we had several of them housed up with an FBI informant, letters were sent to several figures of authority in the FBI, Porter Goss was meeting with the ISI Chief Mahmoud Ahmad (the guy who wired 100K to Attah) a week before 911, he was here on 911 proper, Bush got a directive saying "Bin Laden determined to strike in US" etc etc etc ... it goes on and on and on ...
i dunno.
just sayin'.
if it did go down all sinister deadly ganster like, that is how it went down.
now PLEASE stop arguing over exploding towers.
it makes me sad.
ask 69charger, he beat me over the head until i cried.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
It is estimated that 800 tons of this precipitated liquefied iron was found of the 100,000 tons of dust collected.
1. H. A. Lowers et al. “Particle Atlas of World Trade Center Dust.” USGS Open-File Report 2005-1165, (2005)
2. Various authors: “U.S. EPA Response to the Peer Review of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s Final Report on the World Trade Center Dust Screening Study.” Page 28, (December 2006)
3. R. J. Lee et al. “Damage Assessment 130 Liberty Street Property: WTC Dust Signature Report on Composition and Morphology.” Issued December 2003.
4. S. R. Badger et al. “World Trade Center Particulate Contamination Signature Based on Dust Composition and Morphology.” Microscopy and Microanalysis 10 (Supplement 2), 948, (2004).
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Say it with me...
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
One more time...
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
Get it?
Didn't have to melt, it only had to weaken.
I can.
Millions of Joules of energy from a falling 110 story building + tens of thousands of tons of combustable material + air from subway and other underground pathways + time = blast furnace
Does that work for you?