I took the bait that the trollong thread Why Aren't Christians Pacifists? That type of thread should piss of people of all beliefs, It's insulting. It stereotypes. It holds Christians to be something more than they are, which is human. It's a childish type of post that says "hey I'm not Christian and my shit don't stink". And I got sucked in by it.
I see. I tend to ignore most shit like aht here, though I did arc up at corporatewhore o this thread for being "ist".
Have a surf, chill, and remember that you can never change anyone's mind about anything !!
I took the bait that the trollong thread Why Aren't Christians Pacifists? That type of thread should piss of people of all beliefs, It's insulting. It stereotypes. It holds Christians to be something more than they are, which is human. It's a childish type of post that says "hey I'm not Christian and my shit don't stink". And I got sucked in by it.
Who cares what they were shouting when it was really about possession of land for their country. I can sell you Cavalier all the while calling it a BMW but it doesn't change the fact that it's a Cavlier.
There have been wars that were based on faith, where the land grab was made in the name of the faith, with attempts to drive out and/or convert the heathens. WWII wasn't one of them, but they have happened.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
God is watching everything you do! The all knowing eye in the sky.
Follow these "xyz" laws s or suffer and burn in hell forever.
Church was the first form of government.
Pass the plate and don't forget to give generously.
The parallels are frightening...and strikingly obvious at the same time.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I took the bait that the trollong thread Why Aren't Christians Pacifists? That type of thread should piss of people of all beliefs, It's insulting. It stereotypes. It holds Christians to be something more than they are, which is human. It's a childish type of post that says "hey I'm not Christian and my shit don't stink". And I got sucked in by it.
i don't get it.
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
For a start how many people did the Russians kill in WWII?
Hehehe. No one was killing anyone in the name of atheism in WW2. Give me a break. On a side note most Russians still practiced a religion under communism and the Orthodox church in Russia and its former satellites survives today because of this. If your government told you your God was not real and you should become an atheist you would just do this? I thought not.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
To break down borders and realise that we are one species and then the true patriotism comes from pride and love of the human race, not from the tribes of which we currently are divided, open your eyes your mind will see! - ME
No one was killing anyone in the name of atheism in WW2. Give me a break.
No one was killing anyone in the name of Christianity in the crusades. Christianity teaches against such killing. The practitioners of Christianity did indeed kill.
The practitioners of atheism have killed in far greater numbers. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, and the list goes on and on.
Christ said that you can tell the tree by its fruit. Likewise, you can tell Atheism by its fruits: immorality, social depression, a degenerate conscience...
Many of these traits are exhibited by ye most holy practitioners of Atheism everyday and yet you call it "freedom." It's not freedom when you're in the confining grip of immorality. Our consciences remind us what's right whether we like it or not.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
Atheists as a group don't subscribe to a doctrine that includes turning the other cheek or doing unto others as they'd have done unto themselves. Many atheists do live their lives that way, but I'd say they are freer not to than a Christian is, because Christ asks those who follow him to reach for a certain standard. If you claim to be a Christian, shouldn't you at least be TRYING to be a pacifist?
No one was killing anyone in the name of Christianity in the crusades. Christianity teaches against such killing. The practitioners of Christianity did indeed kill.
The practitioners of atheism have killed in far greater numbers. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, and the list goes on and on.
Christ said that you can tell the tree by its fruit. Likewise, you can tell Atheism by its fruits: immorality, social depression, a degenerate conscience...
Many of these traits are exhibited by ye most holy practitioners of Atheism everyday and yet you call it "freedom." It's not freedom when you're in the confining grip of immorality. Our consciences remind us what's right whether we like it or not.
Hitler was an atheist? And the Easter Bunny is the anti-christ.
Christ said that you can tell the tree by its fruit. Likewise, you can tell Atheism by its fruits: immorality, social depression, a degenerate conscience...
Okay, talk about atheists killing or whatever - that's debatable. But to label all atheists immoral and degenerate? That's fucking deluded. How does the fact that I don't believe in your little fairy tale god make me any worse of a person than you? Apart from never knowing "true love: God"... Of course.
And as for "atheist" Hitler killing... Hitler was religious, and advocated a form of Christianity to justify his anti-Semitism.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
Hitler was an atheist? And the Easter Bunny is the anti-christ.
Hitler rejected his faith as a boy. He would later use Christianity as a tool, not as an instrument of faith. He transformed the faith to be a tool for fighting the Jews - certainly not the intent of Christ.
His movement was certainly not a Christian one. It was nationalist, coaxed by ignoring Christian morality.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
Hitler rejected his faith as a boy. He would later use Christianity as a tool, not as an instrument of faith. He transformed the faith to be a tool for fighting the Jews - certainly not the intent of Christ.
His movement was certainly not a Christian one. It was nationalist, coaxed by ignoring Christian morality.
And his movement was atheist in which way?
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
Hitler rejected his faith as a boy. He would later use Christianity as a tool, not as an instrument of faith. He transformed the faith to be a tool for fighting the Jews - certainly not the intent of Christ.
His movement was certainly not a Christian one. It was nationalist, coaxed by ignoring Christian morality.
Dubya???.....oh oh your talking about Hitler....
so easy to drill for fear for a fearful flock. Religion has always been a tool for those in power to manipulate the masses....how we got into Iraq and this administration....
So when faith prevails, does that mean the movements that killed people were based on that faith? You seem to think that Christians who kill do so despite their faith, whereas atheists who kill do it because of their atheism.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
So when faith prevails, does that mean the movements that killed people were based on that faith? You seem to think that Christians who kill do so despite their faith, whereas atheists who kill do it because of their atheism.
No, I do believe that many Christians have killed many people thinking that they were fighting for their faith. But, I believe they incorrectly interpreted the teachings of Christ. I think we can all agree on that point.
Furthermore, it seems to me that atheists have also killed people and they were fighting for beliefs and ideologies (Communism, nationalism...) that exist outside of a faith. They weren't fighting for atheism per se, but their bloody actions were supported by ideologies quite foreign to Christianity - if Christianity had a say, their actions would not have been allowed.
During the 20th century, the church has always opposed innocent bloodshed. Stalin could not have killed 20 million of his own people if he had been a follower of Christ. Hitler could not have killed 6 million Jews if he had been following Christ's teaching. The number of people that non-religious people have killed in the 20th century dwarfs the number that Christians have killed in all prior centuries. And yet we still hear about all the atrocities of Christianity and none of the butchery of Socialism.
Selective memory. Liberals know it well.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
No, I do believe that many Christians have killed many people thinking that they were fighting for their faith. But, I believe they incorrectly interpreted the teachings of Christ. I think we can all agree on that point.
Furthermore, it seems to me that atheists have also killed people and they were fighting for beliefs and ideologies (Communism, nationalism...) that exist outside of a faith. They weren't fighting for atheism per se, but their bloody actions were supported by ideologies quite foreign to Christianity - if Christianity had a say, their actions would not have been allowed.
During the 20th century, the church has always opposed innocent bloodshed. Stalin could not have killed 20 million of his own people if he had been a follower of Christ. Hitler could not have killed 6 million Jews if he had been following Christ's teaching. The number of people that non-religious people have killed in the 20th century dwarfs the number that Christians have killed in all prior centuries. And yet we still hear about all the atrocities of Christianity and none of the butchery of Socialism.
Selective memory. Liberals know it well.
I also recall a certain pope in WW2 who didn't help any of the Jews looking for sanctuary. Not saving people when you have the chance is similar to condemning them to death.
Also:Ever hear of the Crusades? Manys a christian willingly faught due to their faith against the "infidels" or Muslims, as they're known.
No, I do believe that many Christians have killed many people thinking that they were fighting for their faith. But, I believe they incorrectly interpreted the teachings of Christ. I think we can all agree on that point.
Furthermore, it seems to me that atheists have also killed people and they were fighting for beliefs and ideologies (Communism, nationalism...) that exist outside of a faith. They weren't fighting for atheism per se, but their bloody actions were supported by ideologies quite foreign to Christianity - if Christianity had a say, their actions would not have been allowed.
During the 20th century, the church has always opposed innocent bloodshed. Stalin could not have killed 20 million of his own people if he had been a follower of Christ. Hitler could not have killed 6 million Jews if he had been following Christ's teaching. The number of people that non-religious people have killed in the 20th century dwarfs the number that Christians have killed in all prior centuries. And yet we still hear about all the atrocities of Christianity and none of the butchery of Socialism.
Selective memory. Liberals know it well.
See, you're doing it again. You're painting Christianity as an ideal, rather than a reality. The truth is, yes, they misinterpreted the teachings of Christ, but they were still Christians. But you insist that if atheists were Christian, they wouldn't kill - that the Christian church doesn't allow that kind of thing to happen. But looking back, it seems to have allowed it to happen an awful lot, even if it is just because its members "incorrectly interpreted".
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
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I see. I tend to ignore most shit like aht here, though I did arc up at corporatewhore o this thread for being "ist".
Have a surf, chill, and remember that you can never change anyone's mind about anything !!
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
good post
it's ok, she wants to sleep wiht you, she just does not know that yet !!
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
there's a big difference between murder and self-defense.
that's what right-wing cranks on the radio say a lot, so it must be true.
Maybe we should cut them some slack... Who knows what the Reds are planning, even as we speak?
God is watching everything you do! The all knowing eye in the sky.
Follow these "xyz" laws s or suffer and burn in hell forever.
Church was the first form of government.
Pass the plate and don't forget to give generously.
The parallels are frightening...and strikingly obvious at the same time.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Hehehe. No one was killing anyone in the name of atheism in WW2. Give me a break. On a side note most Russians still practiced a religion under communism and the Orthodox church in Russia and its former satellites survives today because of this. If your government told you your God was not real and you should become an atheist you would just do this? I thought not.
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
To break down borders and realise that we are one species and then the true patriotism comes from pride and love of the human race, not from the tribes of which we currently are divided, open your eyes your mind will see! - ME
LOL
-Enoch Powell
No one was killing anyone in the name of Christianity in the crusades. Christianity teaches against such killing. The practitioners of Christianity did indeed kill.
The practitioners of atheism have killed in far greater numbers. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, and the list goes on and on.
Christ said that you can tell the tree by its fruit. Likewise, you can tell Atheism by its fruits: immorality, social depression, a degenerate conscience...
Many of these traits are exhibited by ye most holy practitioners of Atheism everyday and yet you call it "freedom." It's not freedom when you're in the confining grip of immorality. Our consciences remind us what's right whether we like it or not.
-Enoch Powell
Exactly. I think you have your answer right here.
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Hitler was an atheist? And the Easter Bunny is the anti-christ.
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Okay, talk about atheists killing or whatever - that's debatable. But to label all atheists immoral and degenerate? That's fucking deluded. How does the fact that I don't believe in your little fairy tale god make me any worse of a person than you? Apart from never knowing "true love: God"... Of course.
And as for "atheist" Hitler killing... Hitler was religious, and advocated a form of Christianity to justify his anti-Semitism.
Hitler rejected his faith as a boy. He would later use Christianity as a tool, not as an instrument of faith. He transformed the faith to be a tool for fighting the Jews - certainly not the intent of Christ.
His movement was certainly not a Christian one. It was nationalist, coaxed by ignoring Christian morality.
-Enoch Powell
And his movement was atheist in which way?
When faith is denied, atheism prevails.
-Enoch Powell
yep....
release your thoughts my brother....
Dubya???.....oh oh your talking about Hitler....
so easy to drill for fear for a fearful flock. Religion has always been a tool for those in power to manipulate the masses....how we got into Iraq and this administration....
So when faith prevails, does that mean the movements that killed people were based on that faith? You seem to think that Christians who kill do so despite their faith, whereas atheists who kill do it because of their atheism.
No, I do believe that many Christians have killed many people thinking that they were fighting for their faith. But, I believe they incorrectly interpreted the teachings of Christ. I think we can all agree on that point.
Furthermore, it seems to me that atheists have also killed people and they were fighting for beliefs and ideologies (Communism, nationalism...) that exist outside of a faith. They weren't fighting for atheism per se, but their bloody actions were supported by ideologies quite foreign to Christianity - if Christianity had a say, their actions would not have been allowed.
During the 20th century, the church has always opposed innocent bloodshed. Stalin could not have killed 20 million of his own people if he had been a follower of Christ. Hitler could not have killed 6 million Jews if he had been following Christ's teaching. The number of people that non-religious people have killed in the 20th century dwarfs the number that Christians have killed in all prior centuries. And yet we still hear about all the atrocities of Christianity and none of the butchery of Socialism.
Selective memory. Liberals know it well.
-Enoch Powell
I also recall a certain pope in WW2 who didn't help any of the Jews looking for sanctuary. Not saving people when you have the chance is similar to condemning them to death.
Also:Ever hear of the Crusades? Manys a christian willingly faught due to their faith against the "infidels" or Muslims, as they're known.
"Hallowed are the Ori"
http://www.freewebs.com/alnkirk - it ain't shabby!
See, you're doing it again. You're painting Christianity as an ideal, rather than a reality. The truth is, yes, they misinterpreted the teachings of Christ, but they were still Christians. But you insist that if atheists were Christian, they wouldn't kill - that the Christian church doesn't allow that kind of thing to happen. But looking back, it seems to have allowed it to happen an awful lot, even if it is just because its members "incorrectly interpreted".