Another question I have on the pentagon thing is why fly so low to the ground and risk crashing beforehand when they could have just aimed for the center of it like a hitting a bullseye but at an angle. Mind you the pilot apparently sucked and could barely fly a Cessna. It certainly would make a bigger mess and make the cleanup and repair much harder.
Aren't the more important areas near the center? I have no idea, but it seems from that vantage point the most logical thing to do is aim for the heart of it. I dunno.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I pose to you, have you actually read the page you posted and what do you think about what is suggested?
As it seems that you are trying yourself to deny the whole thing using the very tactic described.
Wait a second, I'm trying to deny what whole thing?? What I've read so far on the page is the eyewitness accounts of the plane hitting the Pentagon. Additional link needed to click on. I also watched the BBC video that I had never seen prior to today. To be honest with you I haven't read over the rest of the page. I just found the page today, and currently am at work. But what I have read so far via the eyewitness accounts ( http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html) is that without a doubt, a passenger plane hit the Pentagon.
"The leads are weak!"
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
Another question I have on the pentagon thing is why fly so low to the ground and risk crashing beforehand when they could have just aimed for the center of it like a hitting a bullseye but at an angle. Mind you the pilot apparently sucked and could barely fly a Cessna. It certainly would make a bigger mess and make the cleanup and repair much harder.
Aren't the more important areas near the center? I have no idea, but it seems from that vantage point the most logical thing to do is aim for the heart of it. I dunno.
I'll answer this and hopefully you will answer my question of where is the plane if it didn't crash into the Pentagon. I believe your assumption to be correct that if they hit the center it would have made the cleanup that much harder. But, I believe you answered your own question in that the pilot wasn't the best, and probably got lucky that he hit the damn building at all. Much harder feat than hitting the twin towers. Now your turn.
"The leads are weak!"
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
Wait a second, I'm trying to deny what whole thing?? What I've read so far on the page is the eyewitness accounts of the plane hitting the Pentagon. Additional link needed to click on. I also watched the BBC video that I had never seen prior to today. To be honest with you I haven't read over the rest of the page. I just found the page today, and currently am at work. But what I have read so far via the eyewitness accounts ( http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html) is that without a doubt, a passenger plane hit the Pentagon.
Ok, im not assuming, but i am guessing, that you're not going to be loving the page quite as much when you read it all I think its very interesting and its a thought i've had for a while.
However it does seem like a quite a feat of flying for a partially trained terrorist. Isn't landing the hardest part of flying supposedly??
Now were getting somewhere. So the supposed plane (Flight 77) never hit the Pentagon? Ok, where is it? Where are the passengers? Since so many people speak out for the conspiracy side from Europe, what do you think of this video by the BBC? http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html
Disregard the majority of the information on the page considering how it will debunk what you hold in your heart to be true, and just focus on the first video down from the front. Granted it doesn't show the plane hitting the pentagon, but let me know what you think.
Maybe it's a plane. I just can't tell. An interesting question is why were the Sheraton and Citgo tapes confiscated immediately the crash? How was that in their thought process right away? It would probably take them at least 5 minutes just to walk to their car and start driving over there. So that's more or less an immediate reaction. Wierd. Boom...quick get the tapes!
You would think they'd be like... oh fuck! ...whoa! Get over the shock then react. It's odd that they had the frame of mind to immediately race over and snap up the tapes. I read somewhere the Sheraton folks were actually watching their taped footage when the FBI arrived. I wonder what they saw?
It could be so easy to clear this pentagon thing up. Why not do that? You would think they would want to show people the tapes for that reason alone. Why didn't they at least say the confiscated tapes didn't show anything conclusive instead of hiding them? That would have been a no brainer. Also I'm sure the pentagon had another camera that saw something.
It doesn't make a lot of sense.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Maybe it's a plane. I just can't tell. An interesting question is why were the Sheraton and Citgo tapes confiscated immediately the crash? How was that in their thought process right away? It would probably take them at least 5 minutes just to walk to their car and start driving over there. So that's more or less an immediate reaction. Wierd. Boom...quick get the tapes!
You would think they'd be like... oh fuck! ...whoa! Get over the shock then react. It's odd that they had the frame of mind to immediately race over and snap up the tapes. I read somewhere the Sheraton folks were actually watching their taped footage when the FBI arrived. I wonder what they saw?
It could be so easy to clear this pentagon thing up. Why not do that? You would think they would want to show people the tapes for that reason alone. Why didn't they at least say they confiscated tapes didn't show anything conclusive instead of hiding them? That would have been a no brainer. Also I'm sure the pentagon had another camera that saw something.
It doesn't make a lot of sense.
Read the link that mookie posted. See what you think about it. You might have heard it before or thought about it yourself i dont know. I find it an intriguing theory when its all added up.
Another thing is, I know it's a walk on the dark side, but did they find enough remains to identify for the families on 77?
To put in perspective, they probably don't really give a shit about a few lives on an airplane. I mean they're over there bombing the tar out of neighborhoods and killing a lot of innocent Iraqi's, and putting troops into harms way (dead) over a war not a lot of people see as even legitimate in the first place.
Given that mindset and the scope of what's going on...what's a few people on a plane? Sounds pretty sick, but in reality they're doing it every day and don't lose a wink at night.
They could have landed the plane anywhere, hooked up gas to the plane's ventilation system, offed everyone and done whatever afterwards.
It's crazy, but I'm just saying. I've read a bunch of eyewitnees that saw and heard a missile.
It seems for every person that saw a plane, another saw a missile. Crazy...
And I do believe an airplane can disintegrate like that. If it was a plane it definitely vaporized nicely. Which is possible.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I'm sure one of the guys will be along shortly with a perfectly resonable explanation.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
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Franklin D. Roosevelt
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Why not focus on the Bush administration ignoring information that they had handed to the by the previous administration and information they obtained under their own watch. I mean, you got the group that believes it was a terrorist plot, nothing else. Then you got the group that believes it wasn't just a terrorist plot and something pretty fucking foul is a afoot. These two groups are never going to agree with each other so forget all that. can we not agree that the Bush administration willingly ignored information that not only dealt directly with this nation's security, but information that if had been acted upon would have certainly saved american lives?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Ok, im not assuming, but i am guessing, that you're not going to be loving the page quite as much when you read it all I think its very interesting and its a thought i've had for a while.
However it does seem like a quite a feat of flying for a partially trained terrorist. Isn't landing the hardest part of flying supposedly??
I'm not a yank, I've never lived there, but even I know they had flying lessons. Come on.
A restaurant with a smoking section is like a swimming pool with a pissing section
I'm not a yank, I've never lived there, but even I know they had flying lessons. Come on.
I believe that the flight instructors said that the ones learning to fly could barely handle the small training aircraft, so a 747 is out of the question.
I believe that the flight instructors said that the ones learning to fly could barely handle the small training aircraft, so a 747 is out of the question.
Really? Pick up a copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator X. Not that difficult especially when the real pilots already had it in the air.
Another question I have on the pentagon thing is why fly so low to the ground and risk crashing beforehand when they could have just aimed for the center of it like a hitting a bullseye but at an angle. Mind you the pilot apparently sucked and could barely fly a Cessna. It certainly would make a bigger mess and make the cleanup and repair much harder.
Aren't the more important areas near the center? I have no idea, but it seems from that vantage point the most logical thing to do is aim for the heart of it. I dunno.
The only thing I can think of is that the more senior staff positions are situated in the outer rings because of the "office with a view concept".
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
This is an article from a Russian webpage...I think.
Now it all makes sense! The Rutgers story is actually part of the 9/11 conspiracy that Imus knew about and they had to get him fired. The Russians are on top of things.
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The only thing I can think of is that the more senior staff positions are situated in the outer rings because of the "office with a view concept".
The pilot/terrorist may have also made the flyover to get a visual on the Pentagon in the first place. It still seems shady to me, though, with the testimony of experienced pilots, etc..
This is an article from a Russian webpage...I think.
Now it all makes sense! The Rutgers story is actually part of the 9/11 conspiracy that Imus knew about and they had to get him fired. The Russians are on top of things.
Oh man, sometimes you just have to sit back and laugh at all the goings on
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Oh man, sometimes you just have to sit back and laugh at all the goings on
Yes you do, especially when you look around and see all the fucked up stuff going on.
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
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the truth is starting to come out...it wont be long
But whats going to happen if the truth is as you/I maybe think it is and it does come out?
There's going to be a lot of people who have lost everything their minds were capable of holding onto.
They're not going to care too much, or even listen pretty much. They would still fight anyone to keep the bars on the cage strong.
Then theres going to be those that want justice.
Could get ugly??
But whats going to happen if the truth is as you/I maybe think it is and it does come out?
There's going to be a lot of people who have lost everything their minds were capable of holding onto.
They're not going to care too much, or even listen pretty much. They would still fight anyone to keep the bars on the cage strong.
Then theres going to be those that want justice.
Could get ugly??
Hahaha those who disagree with you are trying to keep the bars on the cage, classic! The truth is gonna come out! Bush is an eyeborg from outta space who made up Al-Qaeda so he could get at the race of mundathba that live on planet tumtilubi on the 3rd sun from the 4th galaxy! We're in on it too! Aliens, that have mixed in with the human population. The demons, the demons! I know, cause the voices told me!
A restaurant with a smoking section is like a swimming pool with a pissing section
Hahaha those who disagree with you are trying to keep the bars on the cage, classic! The truth is gonna come out! Bush is an eyeborg from outta space who made up Al-Qaeda so he could get at the race of mundathba that live on planet tumtilubi on the 3rd sun from the 4th galaxy! We're in on it too! Aliens, that have mixed in with the human population. The demons, the demons! I know, cause the voices told me!
Theres very little chance that any of that is true.
Link??
I only deal with sensible theories like those debated in this thread.
Edit: i could possibly believe it if he was from outta outer space and if you could spell Tumtiluibi right.
But whats going to happen if the truth is as you/I maybe think it is and it does come out?
There's going to be a lot of people who have lost everything their minds were capable of holding onto.
They're not going to care too much, or even listen pretty much. They would still fight anyone to keep the bars on the cage strong.
Then theres going to be those that want justice.
Could get ugly??
I agree...half of me wants to get to the bottom of it, and the other half doesn't want to know.
What a mess it would be. The global outrage would be unlike anything this world has ever seen before.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Aren't the more important areas near the center? I have no idea, but it seems from that vantage point the most logical thing to do is aim for the heart of it. I dunno.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Wait a second, I'm trying to deny what whole thing?? What I've read so far on the page is the eyewitness accounts of the plane hitting the Pentagon. Additional link needed to click on. I also watched the BBC video that I had never seen prior to today. To be honest with you I haven't read over the rest of the page. I just found the page today, and currently am at work. But what I have read so far via the eyewitness accounts ( http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html) is that without a doubt, a passenger plane hit the Pentagon.
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
"What's your name?"
"FUCK YOU! THAT"S MY NAME!"
I'll answer this and hopefully you will answer my question of where is the plane if it didn't crash into the Pentagon. I believe your assumption to be correct that if they hit the center it would have made the cleanup that much harder. But, I believe you answered your own question in that the pilot wasn't the best, and probably got lucky that he hit the damn building at all. Much harder feat than hitting the twin towers. Now your turn.
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
"What's your name?"
"FUCK YOU! THAT"S MY NAME!"
Ok, im not assuming, but i am guessing, that you're not going to be loving the page quite as much when you read it all
However it does seem like a quite a feat of flying for a partially trained terrorist. Isn't landing the hardest part of flying supposedly??
Maybe it's a plane. I just can't tell. An interesting question is why were the Sheraton and Citgo tapes confiscated immediately the crash? How was that in their thought process right away? It would probably take them at least 5 minutes just to walk to their car and start driving over there. So that's more or less an immediate reaction. Wierd. Boom...quick get the tapes!
You would think they'd be like... oh fuck! ...whoa! Get over the shock then react. It's odd that they had the frame of mind to immediately race over and snap up the tapes. I read somewhere the Sheraton folks were actually watching their taped footage when the FBI arrived. I wonder what they saw?
It could be so easy to clear this pentagon thing up. Why not do that? You would think they would want to show people the tapes for that reason alone. Why didn't they at least say the confiscated tapes didn't show anything conclusive instead of hiding them? That would have been a no brainer. Also I'm sure the pentagon had another camera that saw something.
It doesn't make a lot of sense.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Read the link that mookie posted. See what you think about it. You might have heard it before or thought about it yourself i dont know. I find it an intriguing theory when its all added up.
To put in perspective, they probably don't really give a shit about a few lives on an airplane. I mean they're over there bombing the tar out of neighborhoods and killing a lot of innocent Iraqi's, and putting troops into harms way (dead) over a war not a lot of people see as even legitimate in the first place.
Given that mindset and the scope of what's going on...what's a few people on a plane? Sounds pretty sick, but in reality they're doing it every day and don't lose a wink at night.
They could have landed the plane anywhere, hooked up gas to the plane's ventilation system, offed everyone and done whatever afterwards.
It's crazy, but I'm just saying. I've read a bunch of eyewitnees that saw and heard a missile.
It seems for every person that saw a plane, another saw a missile. Crazy...
And I do believe an airplane can disintegrate like that. If it was a plane it definitely vaporized nicely. Which is possible.
I just watched this vid:
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/200109114a_hr.jpg
The lawn looks perfect!
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over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I'm sure one of the guys will be along shortly with a perfectly resonable explanation.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/wtcdrill3.wmv
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."
Franklin D. Roosevelt
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZF6GBpWwzI&mode=related&search=
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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I'm not a yank, I've never lived there, but even I know they had flying lessons. Come on.
I believe that the flight instructors said that the ones learning to fly could barely handle the small training aircraft, so a 747 is out of the question.
Really? Pick up a copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator X. Not that difficult especially when the real pilots already had it in the air.
FYI it wasn't a 747.
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The only thing I can think of is that the more senior staff positions are situated in the outer rings because of the "office with a view concept".
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
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Now it all makes sense! The Rutgers story is actually part of the 9/11 conspiracy that Imus knew about and they had to get him fired. The Russians are on top of things.
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/13-04-2007/89728-Don_Imus-0
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The pilot/terrorist may have also made the flyover to get a visual on the Pentagon in the first place. It still seems shady to me, though, with the testimony of experienced pilots, etc..
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I guess Rosie is next then...when things get too tied up in the semantics, I thank god for funny vids like this:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6046596687847798944
Oh man, sometimes you just have to sit back and laugh at all the goings on
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Yes you do, especially when you look around and see all the fucked up stuff going on.
Pensacola '94
New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
New Orleans '00
New Orleans '03
Tampa '08
New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest
New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest
Fenway Park '18
St. Louis '22
Errrr....ok?.....thanks?....i mean DID THEY?....no fucking way...thanks for sharing that........
Edit: i have no idea if you're joking or what, forgive me if my sarcasm is misplaced. Dont if its not:)
lol..not that hard??? wow...just wow
maybe they were aiming for the heart of the building and since they were such bad pilots; they missed it and got "lucky" where they hit?
unlikely considering that the turn they previously made was a rather difficult turn that even the plane supposedly would have trouble making.
~Ron Burgundy
But whats going to happen if the truth is as you/I maybe think it is and it does come out?
There's going to be a lot of people who have lost everything their minds were capable of holding onto.
They're not going to care too much, or even listen pretty much. They would still fight anyone to keep the bars on the cage strong.
Then theres going to be those that want justice.
Could get ugly??
Hahaha those who disagree with you are trying to keep the bars on the cage, classic! The truth is gonna come out! Bush is an eyeborg from outta space who made up Al-Qaeda so he could get at the race of mundathba that live on planet tumtilubi on the 3rd sun from the 4th galaxy! We're in on it too! Aliens, that have mixed in with the human population. The demons, the demons! I know, cause the voices told me!
Theres very little chance that any of that is true.
Link??
I only deal with sensible theories like those debated in this thread.
Edit: i could possibly believe it if he was from outta outer space and if you could spell Tumtiluibi right.
I agree...half of me wants to get to the bottom of it, and the other half doesn't want to know.
What a mess it would be. The global outrage would be unlike anything this world has ever seen before.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
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