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  • jsand wrote:
    Yeah, irrelevant is a great way to describe him. Notwithstanding your ill-conceived assumptions about him, he's still the leader of the free world. And you're irrelevant.

    He's the leader of America, not the world.
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  • jsandjsand Posts: 646
    Ill concieved? So tell me 5 laws he's passed which has helped the average black guy earning 5 bucks an hour at McDonalds.

    Another racist quote from Mr. anti-racist - the "average black guy earning 5 bucks an hour at McDonalds"?

    What exactly would you like him to do? Pass the "average black guy earning 5 bucks an hour at McDonald's" act? Would that disprove your "racist" accusation?
  • jsandjsand Posts: 646
    He's the leader of America, not the world.

    Unfortunately for you, America is still the world's great superpower and the most powerful nation in the world. George W. Bush is its leader. Get it?
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    jsand wrote:
    Unfortunately for you, America is still the world's great superpower and the most powerful nation in the world. George W. Bush is its leader. Get it?

    how come he can make everyone else come and play in Iraq...? you know, being the "world leader", I would hope he'd have more "pull"...
  • jsandjsand Posts: 646
    inmytree wrote:
    how come he can make everyone else come and play in Iraq...? you know, being the "world leader", I would hope he'd have more "pull"...

    Just another example of how America is the world's leader, doing the dirty work for everyone, while pussy nations like France cry about it.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    jsand wrote:
    Just another example of how America is the world's leader, doing the dirty work for everyone, while pussy nations like France cry about it.

    quite the high-class comment about France...wasn't somebody upset the term "red-neck"...? :rolleyes:

    anyway...I guess bushy is a poor leader, he can't get anyone to follow him...
  • jsandjsand Posts: 646
    inmytree wrote:
    quite the high-class comment about France...wasn't somebody upset the term "red-neck"...? :rolleyes:

    anyway...I guess bushy is a poor leader, he can't get anyone to follow him...

    Not saying anything racist. Just calling it like it is. Sorry, but a country that vigorously pushes a cease-fire and pledges to lead a peace-keeping force to enforce it, then pledges to send 200 troops (I think the grand total now is 400), is pathetic in my opinion.
  • jsand wrote:
    Not saying anything racist. Just calling it like it is. Sorry, but a country that vigorously pushes a cease-fire and pledges to lead a peace-keeping force to enforce it, then pledges to send 200 troops (I think the grand total now is 400), is pathetic in my opinion.

    What would you call a nation that invades another but doesn't send nearly enough troops to keep the peace after the initial incursion, thereby creating a pretty massive clusterfuck that is close to becoming an all-out civil war?
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    jsand wrote:
    Not saying anything racist. Just calling it like it is. Sorry, but a country that vigorously pushes a cease-fire and pledges to lead a peace-keeping force to enforce it, then pledges to send 200 troops (I think the grand total now is 400), is pathetic in my opinion.

    perhaps not racist, but rude non-the-less...

    yeah, I guess I'd be upset because they are trying to help broker peace...screw 'em, I say...

    by the way, do you feel the US is a bunch of pussies....? heck, we aren't sending any troops...
  • jsandjsand Posts: 646
    inmytree wrote:
    perhaps not racist, but rude non-the-less...

    yeah, I guess I'd be upset because they are trying to help broker peace...screw 'em, I say...

    by the way, do you feel the US is a bunch of pussies....? heck, we aren't sending any troops...

    Yeah, I can just imagine the reaction if the US sent troops - I'm sure you'd be all for it.

    How are they helping to broker a peace? What's going on now is only peace in the mind of a leftist such as yourself. To a realist, it is only the calm before the storm, another "hudna" in which a terrorist group rearms until it is ready to attack again.

    France misled everyone, saying it would "lead" the "robust" force that was to enforce the ceasefire. If America did something like this, people like you would be crying about it. But since it's France, you still bitch about America, now because we're not committing any troops.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    jsand wrote:
    Yeah, I can just imagine the reaction if the US sent troops - I'm sure you'd be all for it.

    How are they helping to broker a peace? What's going on now is only peace in the mind of a leftist such as yourself. To a realist, it is only the calm before the storm, another "hudna" in which a terrorist group rearms until it is ready to attack again.

    France misled everyone, saying it would "lead" the "robust" force that was to enforce the ceasefire. If America did something like this, people like you would be crying about it. But since it's France, you still bitch about America, now because we're not committing any troops.

    so, is the US a bunch of pussies or not...?
  • jsandjsand Posts: 646
    inmytree wrote:
    so, is the US a bunch of pussies or not...?

    Yup, a bunch of pussies. You win...
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    jsand wrote:
    Yup, a bunch of pussies. You win...

    don't get upset when called out...it's will be ok...
  • jsandjsand Posts: 646
    inmytree wrote:
    don't get upset when called out...it's will be ok...

    Not upset at all. You didn't call out shit, as I already debunked your weak premise.

    Like I said, the US gets enough grief about it not being an "honest broker" (leftist and Islamist-speak for too pro-Israel).
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    jsand wrote:
    Not upset at all. You didn't call out shit, as I already debunked your weak premise.

    Like I said, the US gets enough grief about it not being an "honest broker" (leftist and Islamist-speak for too pro-Israel).

    let's see:

    France = pussies for not sending "enough" troops

    US = no problem because they sent no troops....

    hmmm....
  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    jsand wrote:
    Not upset at all. You didn't call out shit, as I already debunked your weak premise.

    Like I said, the US gets enough grief about it not being an "honest broker" (leftist and Islamist-speak for too pro-Israel).

    Why is it leftist and islamist but never a "neutral view"; it's so bad that if there is a view opposing the right, it's immediately dismissed as leftist. Pretty sad.
  • jsandjsand Posts: 646
    Open wrote:
    Why is it leftist and islamist but never a "neutral view"; it's so bad that if there is a view opposing the right, it's immediately dismissed as leftist. Pretty sad.

    Simply because you classify it as a "neutral view" does not mean that it is one.
  • jsand wrote:
    Just another example of how America is the world's leader, doing the dirty work for everyone, while pussy nations like France cry about it.

    Yeah, doing the dirty work like fucking up the middle east. America, the 'superpower' is really leading the way on that one!
    "I am a doughnut." (live - Berlin, Germany - 11/03/96)

    "Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)

    --Ed

    "Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)

    --Ed

  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    jsand wrote:
    Simply because you classify it as a "neutral view" does not mean that it is one.

    What makes it neutral, if it was pro US and pro Israel? Tell me what the neutral position is on this subject?
  • jsandjsand Posts: 646
    Yeah, doing the dirty work like fucking up the middle east. America, the 'superpower' is really leading the way on that one!

    Oh yeah. The middle east was a bastion of freedom. It was never fucked up until the US came.
  • jsandjsand Posts: 646
    Open wrote:
    What makes it neutral, if it was pro US and pro Israel? Tell me what the neutral position is on this subject?

    The difference between me and you is, I look at situations and see that sometimes, one side is right and one side is wrong; one side is good, and the other is evil. So your "neutrality" is misplaced.
  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    jsand wrote:
    The difference between me and you is, I look at situations and see that sometimes, one side is right and one side is wrong; one side is good, and the other is evil. So your "neutrality" is misplaced.

    LOL..yeah i dont see that reflected on one post on here.
  • jsand wrote:
    Oh yeah. The middle east was a bastion of freedom. It was never fucked up until the US came.

    I didn't say it was, but bombing the fuck out of Iraq and Afghanistan hasn't helped has it? I'm sure a little 5 year old kid who's just watched his mum and dad get bombed to little bits is going to grow up loving America isn't he?
    "I am a doughnut." (live - Berlin, Germany - 11/03/96)

    "Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)

    --Ed

    "Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)

    --Ed

  • jsandjsand Posts: 646
    I didn't say it was, but bombing the fuck out of Iraq and Afghanistan hasn't helped has it? I'm sure a little 5 year old kid who's just watched his mum and dad get bombed to little bits is going to grow up loving America isn't he?

    Well, if that little kid had common sense, peraps he'd blame it on the psychopath who didn't like the fact that his mom and dad didn't follow the same sect of Islam.
  • jsand wrote:
    Well, if that little kid had common sense, peraps he'd blame it on the psychopath who didn't like the fact that his mom and dad didn't follow the same sect of Islam.

    Don't recall the sects waging urban warfare under Saddam......therefore US provication brought civial war....albeit....unknowingly (most likely over-looked)to the area.....not to say Saddam was much better...but the US is not helping the situation....the evidence is everywhere...like I say the war on terror is equivalent to the war on drugs....ultimate failure.....both can be won using alterntive methods however those roads are always deemed unattainable or illogical....but that is matter that is left to the eye of the beholder....
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    jsand wrote:
    Well, if that little kid had common sense, peraps he'd blame it on the psychopath who didn't like the fact that his mom and dad didn't follow the same sect of Islam.
    The sect of Islam?
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    jsand wrote:
    Well, if that little kid had common sense, peraps he'd blame it on the psychopath who didn't like the fact that his mom and dad didn't follow the same sect of Islam.

    sounds perfuckly reasonable...as we know, 5 year old children can easily comprehend the death of a parent...

    5 year old: Why isn't mommy and daddy coming back...

    answer: well, they died so America can have it's freedom...

    5 year old: oh, ok, that sounds good to me, mommy and daddy must of hated freedom and the American way of life...I understand...I should be angry at radical islam and not the people who killed my parents...
  • jsandjsand Posts: 646
    inmytree wrote:
    sounds perfuckly reasonable...as we know, 5 year old children can easily comprehend the death of a parent...

    5 year old: Why isn't mommy and daddy coming back...

    answer: well, they died so America can have it's freedom...

    5 year old: oh, ok, that sounds good to me, mommy and daddy must of hated freedom and the American way of life...I understand...I should be angry at radical islam and not the people who killed my parents...

    5 year old if and when he has the capacity to reason: Why did mommy and daddy have to die because some ignorant piece of shit is obsessed with Allah?
  • jsandjsand Posts: 646
    Collin wrote:
    The sect of Islam?

    Sunni and Shiite. Understand?
  • jsand wrote:
    Well, if that little kid had common sense, peraps he'd blame it on the psychopath who didn't like the fact that his mom and dad didn't follow the same sect of Islam.

    wrong.

    Iraq was secular before the war. Iraq was not islamic until we invaded it and turned it over to the extremists.

    look, just admit your president fucked up on iraq and we can all move on.
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