The guy spends 2 days at the sites of the damage and pays respects
He spends 20 minutes to let the public know what's going on with the war, etc. and still gets crucified
If he did'nt go to the sites, yet spent 20 minutes on TV paying respects, that would'nt be good enough either - you hipocritical bastards
Geez, you're touchy.
Sorry, he doesn't get credit for symbolic gestures at this point. Actually, I personally don't care if he shows up at these ceremonies or not, it won't have any influence on my opinion of him either way.
"Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
Sorry, he doesn't get credit for symbolic gestures at this point. Actually, I personally don't care if he shows up at these ceremonies or not, it won't have any influence on my opinion of him either way.
Touchy ? Not really - Angry? You bet your red-blooded ass
The guy can't win - you know it - I know it- he can do no right in the eyes of the left - hatred takes the place of common sense - all he was doing was what I said - No matter what he said or did - this was going to get political and it's 9/11 people - the worst day in our recent history - that's all I'm saying here
I'll keep taking punches
Untill their will grows tired
Touchy ? Not really - Angry? You bet your red-blooded ass
The guy can't win - you know it - I know it- he can do no right in the eyes of the left - hatred takes the place of common sense - all he was doing was what I said - No matter what he said or did - this was going to get political and it's 9/11 people - the worst day in our recent history - that's all I'm saying here
It goes both ways, with some, and I'm going to include you, he can do no wrong...plain and simple...
as for the comment "it's 9/11 people"....that, my friend, was my original point....9/11 is not a pulpit for his political posturing...so, perhaps we agree about something...9/11 should not be a day use for political purposes...perhaps somebody should tell your boy, bushy....
I just don't see why it's a bad thing to reflect on the anniversary of a terror attack by calling it a terror attack and vowing to go after those who would do a similar attack in the future.
Maybe people are just burned out on dubya's exploitation of the attack. It's widely believed that he's nothing without 9/11. You can even hear it for yourself http://weeklyradioaddress.com/WRA20060911.htm
It goes both ways, with some, and I'm going to include you, he can do no wrong...plain and simple...
as for the comment "it's 9/11 people"....that, my friend, was my original point....9/11 is not a pulpit for his political posturing...so, perhaps we agree about something...9/11 should not be a day use for political purposes...perhaps somebody should tell your boy, bushy....
Since many (including myself) believe that 9/11 was more of a political event than a "terrorist attack", I'm not the least bit surprised that he once again fucked this nation on 9/11.
It goes both ways, with some, and I'm going to include you, he can do no wrong...plain and simple...
as for the comment "it's 9/11 people"....that, my friend, was my original point....9/11 is not a pulpit for his political posturing...so, perhaps we agree about something...9/11 should not be a day use for political purposes...perhaps somebody should tell your boy, bushy....
It does go both ways - I don't think he can do no wrong - but I get what you're saying here
I'll keep taking punches
Untill their will grows tired
Since many (including myself) believe that 9/11 was more of a political event than a "terrorist attack", I'm not the least bit surprised that he once again fucked this nation on 9/11.
Tell the families of the victims that. I'm sure they classify it as a "political event." You can hear them discussing the deaths of their loved ones: "My brother died in that famous political event."
Maybe people are just burned out on dubya's exploitation of the attack.
Why is stating what happened, and then telling us what his plan is to prevent it from happening in the future "exploiting" the attack?
Again, 9/11 was both a political and terror act....treating it otherwise is like believing it's a hurricane (and we certainly want to exploit one of those for political gain, would we???)
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Why is stating what happened, and then telling us what his plan is to prevent it from happening in the future "exploiting" the attack?
Again, 9/11 was both a political and terror act....treating it otherwise is like believing it's a hurricane (and we certainly want to exploit one of those for political gain, would we???)
Pretty funny stuff
I'll keep taking punches
Untill their will grows tired
Why is stating what happened, and then telling us what his plan is to prevent it from happening in the future "exploiting" the attack?
Again, 9/11 was both a political and terror act....treating it otherwise is like believing it's a hurricane (and we certainly want to exploit one of those for political gain, would we???)
When I refer to his massive exploitation of 9/11, I'm referring to the many lies of al qaeda being linked to Iraq....I'm referring to his illegal spying programs. I'm referring to insanely enormous Haliburton contracts to rebuild what he destroyed. I'm referring to him not being able to finish a sentence without the words 9/11, terrorist, islamic fascist......We all know there is more where that came from. Is 'exploitation' an inappropriate word here?
Tell the families of the victims that. I'm sure they classify it as a "political event." You can hear them discussing the deaths of their loved ones: "My brother died in that famous political event."
Give me a fucking break.
The families of the victims should be protesting on the whitehouse sidewalk 24/7. Why aren't they? Well, to quote a sign I recently saw, "If you're not outraged then you're not paying attention."
Why is stating what happened, and then telling us what his plan is to prevent it from happening in the future "exploiting" the attack?
Again, 9/11 was both a political and terror act....treating it otherwise is like believing it's a hurricane (and we certainly want to exploit one of those for political gain, would we???)
He exploited the 9/11 attacks in order to justify invading Iraq.
He exploited the 9/11 attacks in order to justify invading Iraq.
Mr.Budge - The fucking 9/11 attacks did not need to be exploited to justify removing a piece of shit like Sadamm Hussein from power in the heart of the Middle East - the brutality of that day was enough for me to want him taken out - period
I'll keep taking punches
Untill their will grows tired
Mr.Budge - The fucking 9/11 attacks did not need to be exploited to justify removing a piece of shit like Sadamm Hussein from power in the heart of the Middle East - the brutality of that day was enough for me to want him taken out - period
I'm sorry but you're absolutely wrong. Everyone knows that without 9/11 we never would have invaded Iraq. He scared congress and citizens into irrationality because no rational human would have voted for this war.
I'm sorry but you're absolutely wrong. Everyone knows that without 9/11 we never would have invaded Iraq.
What am I wrong about? All's I said was that BECAUSE of 9/11 there was a wake up call that threats needed to be re-evaluated - I did'nt say without 9/11 there would have been no invasion...in fact that's exactly what I said!
I'll keep taking punches
Untill their will grows tired
What am I wrong about? All's I said was that BECAUSE of 9/11 there was a wake up call that threats needed to be re-evaluated - I did'nt say without 9/11 there would have been no invasion...in fact that's exactly what I said!
I'm saying that even the stupid American congress and population disagree with you. The 9/11 attacks did indeed require exploitation to justify an attack in their eyes.
Mr.Budge - The fucking 9/11 attacks did not need to be exploited to justify removing a piece of shit like Sadamm Hussein from power in the heart of the Middle East - the brutality of that day was enough for me to want him taken out - period
Where's the outrage and angry for Saudi Arabia and Pakistan? Why is there no outcry over these countries. You want complete justice, then ask yourself
Why aren't we bombing and invading Saudi Arabia?
Why aren't we bombing and invading Pakistan?
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
Tell the families of the victims that. I'm sure they classify it as a "political event." You can hear them discussing the deaths of their loved ones: "My brother died in that famous political event."
Give me a fucking break.
I don't understand how does a terrorist attack become a political event? A terrorist attack in and of itself warrants a national response, whether by diplomatic means or use of ones military.
A political event, is an election, a campaign dinner, a campaign speech.
The attacks on 9/11 were unprovoked terrorists attack. To redefine them as a political event, to me, does a disservice to the horror of that day, the memory of those directly impacted and those who have and continue to put themselves in harms way to make sure such a terrorist attack does not happen again.
Your brother died because we were attacked. My brother went to Iraq because we were attacked. All the politics that surround 9/11 does not erase the fact that we as a nation were attacked.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
The attackers of 9/11 were of Saudi descent, but these were state-sponsored attacks and the state was Afghanistan -
If one of the hijackers were named O'brien would you be looking to invade Ireland???????
Think about it
Ok, I've thought about it. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are just as responsible as Afghanistan.
Ireland has and continues to suffered the support of the U.S., U.K. and the Church.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
He is not supported by any nation. You think we should seek out and kill people because of what we believe they believe?
listen, i'm not about supporting war...but, to say that osama bin laden is not supported by a nation is largely ignoring what it is to be a nation...especially you should know this. a nation's governmental support is not support by a nation...as a nation, do we support the war? NO! any person that shares the same beliefs as osama bin laden is a nation supporting him...in some way. the people are the power...
no, i don't think we should be at war...war is ridiculous...wars are among men in ties and their plastic g.i. joe armies...
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Obviously over your head.
Geez, you're touchy.
Sorry, he doesn't get credit for symbolic gestures at this point. Actually, I personally don't care if he shows up at these ceremonies or not, it won't have any influence on my opinion of him either way.
Touchy ? Not really - Angry? You bet your red-blooded ass
The guy can't win - you know it - I know it- he can do no right in the eyes of the left - hatred takes the place of common sense - all he was doing was what I said - No matter what he said or did - this was going to get political and it's 9/11 people - the worst day in our recent history - that's all I'm saying here
Untill their will grows tired
Sorry Skolnick
Untill their will grows tired
You're doing a great job of arguing your point....really educated remarks.
It goes both ways, with some, and I'm going to include you, he can do no wrong...plain and simple...
as for the comment "it's 9/11 people"....that, my friend, was my original point....9/11 is not a pulpit for his political posturing...so, perhaps we agree about something...9/11 should not be a day use for political purposes...perhaps somebody should tell your boy, bushy....
What are you a child?
Would you get to your point?
I asked you before what your point was and you responded by saying it was over my head and did'nt elaborate
Please do so and I'd be happy to argue any point with you
Untill their will grows tired
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It does go both ways - I don't think he can do no wrong - but I get what you're saying here
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Tell the families of the victims that. I'm sure they classify it as a "political event." You can hear them discussing the deaths of their loved ones: "My brother died in that famous political event."
Give me a fucking break.
Sorry - will do my best -
Untill their will grows tired
Why is stating what happened, and then telling us what his plan is to prevent it from happening in the future "exploiting" the attack?
Again, 9/11 was both a political and terror act....treating it otherwise is like believing it's a hurricane (and we certainly want to exploit one of those for political gain, would we???)
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Pretty funny stuff
Untill their will grows tired
Mr.Budge - The fucking 9/11 attacks did not need to be exploited to justify removing a piece of shit like Sadamm Hussein from power in the heart of the Middle East - the brutality of that day was enough for me to want him taken out - period
Untill their will grows tired
What am I wrong about? All's I said was that BECAUSE of 9/11 there was a wake up call that threats needed to be re-evaluated - I did'nt say without 9/11 there would have been no invasion...in fact that's exactly what I said!
Untill their will grows tired
Where's the outrage and angry for Saudi Arabia and Pakistan? Why is there no outcry over these countries. You want complete justice, then ask yourself
Why aren't we bombing and invading Saudi Arabia?
Why aren't we bombing and invading Pakistan?
The attackers of 9/11 were of Saudi descent, but these were state-sponsored attacks and the state was Afghanistan -
If one of the hijackers were named O'brien would you be looking to invade Ireland???????
Think about it
Untill their will grows tired
I don't understand how does a terrorist attack become a political event? A terrorist attack in and of itself warrants a national response, whether by diplomatic means or use of ones military.
A political event, is an election, a campaign dinner, a campaign speech.
The attacks on 9/11 were unprovoked terrorists attack. To redefine them as a political event, to me, does a disservice to the horror of that day, the memory of those directly impacted and those who have and continue to put themselves in harms way to make sure such a terrorist attack does not happen again.
Your brother died because we were attacked. My brother went to Iraq because we were attacked. All the politics that surround 9/11 does not erase the fact that we as a nation were attacked.
Ok, I've thought about it. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are just as responsible as Afghanistan.
Ireland has and continues to suffered the support of the U.S., U.K. and the Church.
What??????
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Exactly. And it makes me sick.
listen, i'm not about supporting war...but, to say that osama bin laden is not supported by a nation is largely ignoring what it is to be a nation...especially you should know this. a nation's governmental support is not support by a nation...as a nation, do we support the war? NO! any person that shares the same beliefs as osama bin laden is a nation supporting him...in some way. the people are the power...
no, i don't think we should be at war...war is ridiculous...wars are among men in ties and their plastic g.i. joe armies...
from my window to yours