I think his initial responce was probably him playing to the crowd, which is fine, but I believe he was being sincere when he stated that he respects people's different opinions.
I totally agree. Ed's a pretty witty guy with great sarcasm...and sometimes that translates into people thinking you're deadly serious about things, when in reality, you're simply getting a rise out of people.
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I totally agree. Ed's a pretty witty guy with great sarcasm...and sometimes that translates into people thinking you're deadly serious about things, when in reality, you're simply getting a rise out of people.
Much like Ann Coulter. When you disagree with satire, it's hateful, when you agree with it, it's smart.
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And I try to make this kind and clear
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i do feel bad for all those that don't wanna hear ed speak ... who want the band to not say things that might be offensive to them ... but the show is story tellers and ed does write almost all the friggin' lyrics and frig if "the avocado" album isn't political then you ain't listening ...
at the end of it tho - i think what many fail to realize is how frustrating it can be for someone with convictions watching the lack of action against a regime that shits in the face of humanity ...
i guess before - many could listen to the songs and like em cuz they can garner their own interpretations but when it comes straight from the horses mouth that it is about this or that ... they just don't wanna hear it ...
..............
They used the time how they saw fit. Apparently, the situation our country is in now is a wee bit more important that the meaning behind 'Lowlight'. The rest of the band are also politically active and are also big boys who don't need people coming here and posting their opinions for them. Show me anywhere where they said they disagreed with what/how Ed said what he did.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Are you honestly comparing Ed saying Fuck'em to some of the comments Coulter has made.
see the post (and the one quoted) above.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Ed saying Fuck'em and that explaining that he respects everyone's opinion is not even in the same ballpark, not even the same galaxy as some of the cold hearted god awfull gibberish that has come out of Ann Coulter's mouth.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Ann never laughs jokingly and goes on to say how she respects anything or anyone.
So throw in a laugh, patronize with some sorry shit about being tolerant, backpedal when you realize/see your mates reaction, and flippant insulting remarks towards fans is ok? Then after you recant your intial response, continue to wittingly/unwittingly further insult them by implying that if you dont see things JUST THE WAY that person does, you're wearing blinders? Interesting take on it.
So throw in a laugh, patronize with some sorry shit about being tolerant, backpedal when you realize/see your mates reaction, and flippant insulting remarks towards fans is ok? Then after you recant your intial response, continue to wittingly/unwittingly further insult them by implying that if you dont see things JUST THE WAY that person does, you're wearing blinders? Interesting take on it.
I think you are seeing way more in it than I did. I didn't think for one second there would be these kind of reactions. I saw it as a joke.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
So throw in a laugh, patronize with some sorry shit about being tolerant, backpedal when you realize/see your mates reaction, and flippant insulting remarks towards fans is ok? Then after you recant your intial response, continue to wittingly/unwittingly further insult them by implying that if you dont see things JUST THE WAY that person does, you're wearing blinders? Interesting take on it.
NOt really..there's reality-which does tend to have a liberal slant, and then there is this world that cons see...its different, divided...us against them type of world. We're all here on the same planet, we need to learn to get along and not fuck up the environment and not go to war and so on.
So there's the right way to see things, ie, ED and 90% of the world's view, and a world seen through blinders...ie, cons and elitists everywhere.
NOt really..there's reality-which does tend to have a liberal slant, and then there is this world that cons see...its different, divided...us against them type of world. We're all here on the same planet, we need to learn to get along and not fuck up the environment and not go to war and so on.
So there's the right way to see things, ie, ED and 90% of the world's view, and a world seen through blinders...ie, cons and elitists everywhere.
No point arguing that. You've got it all figured out. All "cons" see the world through blinders? Versus what? Your happy colored magic sunglasses?? How amusing must it be to anyone out there watching a bunch of psuedo intellects treating the words of a surfer burnout rockstars political regurgitation as gospel.
Do you honestly think 90% of the world agrees with eddie vedder? Really? Or is this just proof that 90% of all percentages offered are made up?
Ed saying Fuck'em and that explaining that he respects everyone's opinion is not even in the same ballpark, not even the same galaxy as some of the cold hearted god awfull gibberish that has come out of Ann Coulter's mouth.
First of all, Ann actually makes original points. Ed mumbles something about the truth and picks up his pom poms saying that we need to get out there and vote, and everything can change. Wow. Thanks for the public service.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
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Nader, Ralph
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Wow did his comment really affect you that much. You shouldn't be so thin-skinned.
you shouldnt offer unsolicited life advice. It affected me enough to participate in threads dedicated to the discussion of said comments. Have my comments affected you so much and are you so thin skinned that you cant just let me have my opinions, and get off my ass?
Wow did his comment really affect you that much. You shouldn't be so thin-skinned.
I don't think he was effected, I think he just wanted Ed to raise an insightful point. That's what's so funny, you can figuratively (not literally) see the steam pouring out of his ears...and all you hear is...uhh...yeahh....and by the time you figure out what the hell he was mysteriously alluding to, he's trying to make another point without being direct.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
you shouldnt offer unsolicited life advice. It affected me enough to participate in threads dedicated to the discussion of said comments. Have my comments affected you so much and are you so thin skinned that you cant just let me have my opinions, and get off my ass?
Dude lighten up life's too short to be so uptight. Sorry just some more unsolicited life advice.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
I don't think he was effected, I think he just wanted Ed to raise an insightful point. That's what's so funny, you can figuratively (not literally) see the steam pouring out of his ears...and all you hear is...uhh...yeahh....and by the time you figure out what the hell he was mysteriously alluding to, he's trying to make another point without being direct.
Regardless of Eddie intent when he made the comment he a muscian who's opinion shouldn't matter that much to get your undies in a knot. That's my point.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Regardless of Eddie intent when he made the comment he a muscian who's opinion shouldn't matter that much to get your undies in a knot. That's my point.
I dont wear undies. In fact, I prefer to argue over the internet while wearing nothing but a string of bullets and my nascar hat. Oh yea, and my set of blinders. Plaid. For stone.
2K for H-Dean....wow, and I thought putting 10 bucks on the Falcons to win the Super Bowl at 15:1 was stupid.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
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And desire and love and empty things
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I refuse to take someone, who calls themselves disposable kitchenware, seriously.
don't you think you oughtta rest
don't you think you oughtta lay you head down
don't you think you want to sleep
don't you think you oughtta lay your head down, tonight
don't you think you've done enough
oh, don't you think you've got enough, well maybe...
you don't think there's time to stop
there's time enough for you to lay your head down...tonight, tonight
let it wash away
all those yesterdays...
what are you running from
taking pills to get along
creating walls to call your own
so no one catches you
drifting off and doing all the things
that we all do
let them all wash away
all those yesterdays...
all those yesterdays
all those PAPER PLATES
all those yesterdays
you've got time, you've got time to escape
there's still time
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it's no crime to escape
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there's still time, so escape
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I totally agree. Ed's a pretty witty guy with great sarcasm...and sometimes that translates into people thinking you're deadly serious about things, when in reality, you're simply getting a rise out of people.
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Another great point, thank you for making it.
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Much like Ann Coulter. When you disagree with satire, it's hateful, when you agree with it, it's smart.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Are you honestly comparing Ed saying Fuck'em to some of the comments Coulter has made.
..............
They used the time how they saw fit. Apparently, the situation our country is in now is a wee bit more important that the meaning behind 'Lowlight'. The rest of the band are also politically active and are also big boys who don't need people coming here and posting their opinions for them. Show me anywhere where they said they disagreed with what/how Ed said what he did.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
see the post (and the one quoted) above.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Ann never laughs jokingly and goes on to say how she respects anything or anyone.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Ed saying Fuck'em and that explaining that he respects everyone's opinion is not even in the same ballpark, not even the same galaxy as some of the cold hearted god awfull gibberish that has come out of Ann Coulter's mouth.
So throw in a laugh, patronize with some sorry shit about being tolerant, backpedal when you realize/see your mates reaction, and flippant insulting remarks towards fans is ok? Then after you recant your intial response, continue to wittingly/unwittingly further insult them by implying that if you dont see things JUST THE WAY that person does, you're wearing blinders? Interesting take on it.
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I think you are seeing way more in it than I did. I didn't think for one second there would be these kind of reactions. I saw it as a joke.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
NOt really..there's reality-which does tend to have a liberal slant, and then there is this world that cons see...its different, divided...us against them type of world. We're all here on the same planet, we need to learn to get along and not fuck up the environment and not go to war and so on.
So there's the right way to see things, ie, ED and 90% of the world's view, and a world seen through blinders...ie, cons and elitists everywhere.
Maybe because the "joke" wasnt at your expense. So was it just me who thought Mike looked mortified at Ed's "joke"?
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No point arguing that. You've got it all figured out. All "cons" see the world through blinders? Versus what? Your happy colored magic sunglasses?? How amusing must it be to anyone out there watching a bunch of psuedo intellects treating the words of a surfer burnout rockstars political regurgitation as gospel.
Do you honestly think 90% of the world agrees with eddie vedder? Really? Or is this just proof that 90% of all percentages offered are made up?
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no more 10 character limit
and I didn't think he looked shocked either...afterall, he's been in the same band with Ed for 16 years.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Shit when did that happen and why didn't I get the memo.
Well, eddie wanted to post here, and he can't get more than ten characters out without 45 uhhhhhhhhhhs, so he asked that the rules be changed.
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Wow did his comment really affect you that much. You shouldn't be so thin-skinned.
First of all, Ann actually makes original points. Ed mumbles something about the truth and picks up his pom poms saying that we need to get out there and vote, and everything can change. Wow. Thanks for the public service.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
stone is actually pretty giving when it comes to contributions...liberal contributions
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Kerry, John
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SANTA MONICA,CA 90411
SELF EMPLOYED/MUSICIAN
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Dean, Howard
GOSSARD, STONE
SANTA MONICA,CA 90405
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No Vote Left Behind
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Nader, Ralph
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
you shouldnt offer unsolicited life advice. It affected me enough to participate in threads dedicated to the discussion of said comments. Have my comments affected you so much and are you so thin skinned that you cant just let me have my opinions, and get off my ass?
www.myspace.com/jensvad
I don't think he was effected, I think he just wanted Ed to raise an insightful point. That's what's so funny, you can figuratively (not literally) see the steam pouring out of his ears...and all you hear is...uhh...yeahh....and by the time you figure out what the hell he was mysteriously alluding to, he's trying to make another point without being direct.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
R-e-d-u-n-d-a-n-c-y is priceless to me.
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Dude lighten up life's too short to be so uptight. Sorry just some more unsolicited life advice.
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Regardless of Eddie intent when he made the comment he a muscian who's opinion shouldn't matter that much to get your undies in a knot. That's my point.
I dont wear undies. In fact, I prefer to argue over the internet while wearing nothing but a string of bullets and my nascar hat. Oh yea, and my set of blinders. Plaid. For stone.
www.myspace.com/jensvad
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
I refuse to take someone, who calls themselves disposable kitchenware, seriously.
don't you think you oughtta rest
don't you think you oughtta lay you head down
don't you think you want to sleep
don't you think you oughtta lay your head down, tonight
don't you think you've done enough
oh, don't you think you've got enough, well maybe...
you don't think there's time to stop
there's time enough for you to lay your head down...tonight, tonight
let it wash away
all those yesterdays...
what are you running from
taking pills to get along
creating walls to call your own
so no one catches you
drifting off and doing all the things
that we all do
let them all wash away
all those yesterdays...
all those yesterdays
all those PAPER PLATES
all those yesterdays
you've got time, you've got time to escape
there's still time
it's no crime to escape
it's no crime to escape
it's no crime to escape
there's still time, so escape
it's no crime...
all those yesterdays
all those yesterdays
all those yesterdays
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