Dude, if you had Ed's number, why would you be wasting your time crying all over the board? In a phone call, you could actually settle the amazing mystery: WHO FROM THE BAND AGREES WITH ED?! And the even more earth-shattering, tear-inducing mystery: WHY DIDN'T THEY SHARE MORE FEELINGS ON VH?!
Dude, if you could care less about the topic, why are you even here? Why participate in the thread? You seem to care quite a bit. And how am I "crying all over the board"?
i do feel bad for all those that don't wanna hear ed speak ... who want the band to not say things that might be offensive to them ... but the show is story tellers and ed does write almost all the friggin' lyrics and frig if "the avocado" album isn't political then you ain't listening ...
at the end of it tho - i think what many fail to realize is how frustrating it can be for someone with convictions watching the lack of action against a regime that shits in the face of humanity ...
i guess before - many could listen to the songs and like em cuz they can garner their own interpretations but when it comes straight from the horses mouth that it is about this or that ... they just don't wanna hear it ...
Dude, if you could care less about the topic, why are you even here? Why participate in the thread? You seem to care quite a bit. And how am I "crying all over the board"?
I keep coming back to edit, because it's more fun than my work. For example, you probably meant that I "could not care less." Right?
Anyway, you expect to call someone a freak and not have them respond?
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This was kinda like going on A trivia show, and then not answering any of the questions. Its kinda the point of the show. Coulda been 16 songs with stories, feelings, etc. Instead it was one story, a couple songs, and ALOT of politics. Ed gets to spread his ideas almost nightly. The fans, both conservative and liberal, deserved more. Deserved more stories like the on about Alive.
The fans didn't really "deserve" anything specific from the show. Ed talks about what he wants to talk about, and if the band loses fans over it, then I imagine Ed will probably sleep okay, they've gone out of their way to downsize the fanbase before.
If Ed has anywhere near the level of passion about political issues that he seems to have, there's no way in hell that he's going to address a worldwide television audience and not cover political topics. He'd probably feel like he passed up on a huge opportunity if he didn't.
"Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
i guess before - many could listen to the songs and like em cuz they can garner their own interpretations but when it comes straight from the horses mouth that it is about this or that ... they just don't wanna hear it ...
Besides alive, which songs did we get the interpretations straight from the horses mouth? The songs on the avacado album arent all that cryptic. They really didnt nor do need explanations. I have every right to be disappointed. Thanks for respecting my right to voice my opinions. Open mindedness IS after all, the liberal way.
I think if everyone seriously thinks deep down, they would agree that they wished the band did more STORYS about songs like Black...Elderly Women...Insie Job...Light Years...etc. since we all know Ed hates bush already. I certainly was hoping for more of that.
But it is their stage and they can do what they want. I loved the Alive moment though. And I was hoping for about 5 more of those type of things.
Anyhow, my original intent wasn't to start a discussion about the topics they covered...just wondered what everyone thought about the manner he approached the question about different ideologies. Is Ed for free speech and free will, or does he want a dictatorship just with someone he agrees with doing the job? It is easy to call for free speech and the like but to actually want it in the truest form is far more difficult. I myself have been learning to accept more and more.
I think if everyone seriously thinks deep down, they would agree that they wished the band did more STORYS about songs like Black...Elderly Women...Insie Job...Light Years...etc. since we all know Ed hates bush already. I certainly was hoping for more of that.
But it is their stage and they can do what they want. I loved the Alive moment though. And I was hoping for about 5 more of those type of things.
Anyhow, my original intent wasn't to start a discussion about the topics they covered...just wondered what everyone thought about the manner he approached the question about different ideologies. Is Ed for free speech and free will, or does he want a dictatorship just with someone he agrees with doing the job? It is easy to call for free speech and the like but to actually want it in the truest form is far more difficult. I myself have been learning to accept more and more.
Ed is for free speech. He may disagree with what is coming out of your mouth but he said he respected everyones opinions. He just doesn't like right wingers/republicans. I don't even think Eddie likes Democrats for that matter since they are so similar to Republicans in many ways.
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I think if everyone seriously thinks deep down, they would agree that they wished the band did more STORYS about songs like Black...Elderly Women...Insie Job...Light Years...etc. since we all know Ed hates bush already. I certainly was hoping for more of that.
But it is their stage and they can do what they want. I loved the Alive moment though. And I was hoping for about 5 more of those type of things.
Anyhow, my original intent wasn't to start a discussion about the topics they covered...just wondered what everyone thought about the manner he approached the question about different ideologies. Is Ed for free speech and free will, or does he want a dictatorship just with someone he agrees with doing the job? It is easy to call for free speech and the like but to actually want it in the truest form is far more difficult. I myself have been learning to accept more and more.
I'll be curious to see what the uncut show looks like when it leaks, as I'm sure it will. They only aired less than half of what was performed, so we really don't know (unless one of us was there ... I don't think any of the AMT regulars got in, did they?) how many stories they may have told. I didn't follow it very closely, but I read a few posts right after the taping and I don't recall anyone saying it was all politics all night long. It could have been much more balanced, and that's just what VH-1 chose to air.
Not that I care one way or the other ... I loved what I saw, and can't wait to see the rest.
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I think if everyone seriously thinks deep down, they would agree that they wished the band did more STORYS about songs like Black...Elderly Women...Insie Job...Light Years...etc. since we all know Ed hates bush already. I certainly was hoping for more of that.
But it is their stage and they can do what they want. I loved the Alive moment though. And I was hoping for about 5 more of those type of things.
Anyhow, my original intent wasn't to start a discussion about the topics they covered...just wondered what everyone thought about the manner he approached the question about different ideologies. Is Ed for free speech and free will, or does he want a dictatorship just with someone he agrees with doing the job? It is easy to call for free speech and the like but to actually want it in the truest form is far more difficult. I myself have been learning to accept more and more.
I think Ed is just like many here are. They don't care about our rights. Or free speech. They just want a leader who mimics their opinions. They want a classless society yet only accept their own idealogies, thereby making a classless "fair" society even more impossible.
I'll be curious to see what the uncut show looks like when it leaks, as I'm sure it will. They only aired less than half of what was performed, so we really don't know (unless one of us was there ... I don't think any of the AMT regulars got in, did they?) how many stories they may have told. I didn't follow it very closely, but I read a few posts right after the taping and I don't recall anyone saying it was all politics all night long. It could have been much more balanced, and that's just what VH-1 chose to air.
Not that I care one way or the other ... I loved what I saw, and can't wait to see the rest.
I think Ed is just like many here are. They don't care about our rights. Or free speech. They just want a leader who mimics their opinions. They want a classless society yet only accept their own idealogies, thereby making a classless "fair" society even more impossible.
I agree with many things Eddie has to say but I seriouly doubt anyone would say they were not in favor of free speech.
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I agree with many things Eddie has to say but I seriouly doubt anyone would say they were not in favor of free speech.
Wasnt really my point.
But its alot easier to point out problems than it is to offer solutions. Many dont seem to know what it is they do want, just what they dont want. And people who are open minded are far and few between.
I think Ed is just like many here are. They don't care about our rights. Or free speech. They just want a leader who mimics their opinions. They want a classless society yet only accept their own idealogies, thereby making a classless "fair" society even more impossible.
What a bunch of horseshit. What in God's name do you mean by "our rights" and "free speech"? You don't have a fricking constitutional right to hear the songs your want to hear. You don't have a right to have them interpreted and explained to you in a way that you enjoy, either. No one infringed on your free speech rights, and no one deprived you of a single thing. This is an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD, not a democracy. You aren't forced to log on and whine, and you aren't entitled to anything from the band, either.
Jesus Horatio Christ, get over it.
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What a bunch of horseshit. What in God's name do you mean by "our rights" and "free speech"? You don't have a fricking constitutional right to hear the songs your want to hear. You don't have a right to have them interpreted and explained to you in a way that you enjoy, either. No one infringed on your free speech rights, and no one deprived you of a single thing. This is an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD, not a democracy. You aren't forced to log on and whine, and you aren't entitled to anything from the band, either.
Jesus Horatio Christ, get over it.
I didnt say it was my right to have any of those things. Show me where I wrote that. It IS my right to be disappointed. Take off your blinders man. I didnt "log on and whine". I didnt create the thread. Cincy did. He asked for opinions. I gave mine. Dont like it? F- you.
What a bunch of horseshit. What in God's name do you mean by "our rights" and "free speech"? You don't have a fricking constitutional right to hear the songs your want to hear. You don't have a right to have them interpreted and explained to you in a way that you enjoy, either. No one infringed on your free speech rights, and no one deprived you of a single thing. This is an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD, not a democracy. You aren't forced to log on and whine, and you aren't entitled to anything from the band, either.
Jesus Horatio Christ, get over it.
Obviously his (or her) comment ticked you off, but you didn't respond to the substance of it at all. I think he's onto something, actually. Would Ed even mention politics if everything (in his mind) was perfect? Would anyone, for that matter?
I didnt say it was my right to have any of those things. Show me where I wrote that. It IS my right to be disappointed. Take off your blinders man. I didnt "log on and whine". I didnt create the thread. Cincy did.
Sure you did. You complained about how Eddie's like a lot of people on this board; he doesn't really care about "our rights" and "free speech". That statement implied that he somehow ran roughshod over your rights, and it definitely had a whiny quality to it.
Obviously his (or her) comment ticked you off, but you didn't respond to the substance of it at all. I think he's onto something, actually. Would Ed even mention politics if everything (in his mind) was perfect? Would anyone, for that matter?
Theres always two sides to everything. Always will be. Yin/yang whatever you wanna call it. I just dont think these people are as worried about other people as they are the fact that they just dont like the guy in charge. I dont think the liberals give any more of a fuck about the Iraqi people than I do. They just use it as an excuse to push their ideas of what things should be like.
Obviously his (or her) comment ticked you off, but you didn't respond to the substance of it at all. I think he's onto something, actually. Would Ed even mention politics if everything (in his mind) was perfect? Would anyone, for that matter?
I'm perfect and I mention politics.
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When did Ed take away anyone's free speech? When did he say "fuck the fan's rights"? Who here honestly thinks that the lead singer of Pearl Jam is Josef Stalin?
I really would like to have someone point out when all that happened.
As for the other band members, they all played the Vote for Change tour - and, if I'm not mistaken, they all donated to candidates running against Bush. I guess the differences are in which lefty candidate each sent his money to.
Also, politics may have been the main reason the band decided to play Storytellers. When was the last time they played a concert on music television (note the lowercase "m" and "t")? When was the last time they released a video? It's entirely possible that their distaste with the current direction of our country played a major part in their recent "friendliness" with major media.
Though I do think it's funny to see people write "well, maybe Mike's a conservative." Maybe compared to Ed; but, then, compared to Ed, so am I.
Sure you did. You complained about how Eddie's like a lot of people on this board; he doesn't really care about "our rights" and "free speech". That statement implied that he somehow ran roughshod over your rights, and it definitely had a whiny quality to it.
Thats how YOU chose to interpret my words. Take off your blinders, and try and see what Im actually saying. Others have not only got the jist, but even agreed on some points. You sound more like an angry kid than I have. But thats MY opinion.
And I thought the "fuck em" was just a joke.
I never thought Id see the day that Id go from loving pearl jam because of Eddie, to loving pearl jam despite Eddie. Sad day for me.
I didnt say it was my right to have any of those things. Show me where I wrote that. It IS my right to be disappointed. Take off your blinders man. I didnt "log on and whine". I didnt create the thread. Cincy did. He asked for opinions. I gave mine. Dont like it? F- you.
I know you and I do not agree politically...but you are getting a little unfair treatment in this thread...its kinda of a reverse from what I have been reading lately. I have seen some Cons bitching about Ed...okay they can...I have seen Libs bitching about Cons for bitching...but all you are saying is that a more rounded story orientated show is what you wanted to see....you know Ed is political and where he stands so that is not news to yourself...I kinda of feel bad for you in this thread...getting beat up for being disappointed...I see your point kinda of...you mentioned Unplugged with Nirvana..instead of being a great concent which it was...we could have had Kurt bitch about his life for the whole show....all paperplates is saying is that Ed could have put it away for one night and talk about the music...he is not saying that Ed's politics pissed him off cause it isn't news to him where Ed stands....for me I enjoy Ed's views, regardless where he says it...but at the same time I have to be fair to the other side and I completly see your point...some here however don't (or choose to argue) which is too bad...once again getting broke down into left/right and I hate you mentality....people are blowing up your statements....
But its alot easier to point out problems than it is to offer solutions. Many dont seem to know what it is they do want, just what they dont want. And people who are open minded are far and few between.
I agree but Eddie doesn't have to offer solutions if he doesn't want to. I am sure Eddie has solutions/ideas/opinions he is too intelligent to not have them. He seems really pissed off the last 4 years and he wants to vent his anger and I don't blame him one bit. I was listenting to one of the Seattle shows in 2000 when he mentioned the Nader rally that was there during the election and someone was holding up Bush signs. Eddie said something to the effect of I hope they got taken in the back and roughed up a little. So I guess he has been a little bit bent since 2000 and newsflash so are a lot of people in this country.
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Obviously his (or her) comment ticked you off, but you didn't respond to the substance of it at all. I think he's onto something, actually. Would Ed even mention politics if everything (in his mind) was perfect? Would anyone, for that matter?
I'm not entirely sure about what the substance of the post was, other than him/her being so bunched up about Ed/liberals on this board being huge facists or something.
"Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
Theres always two sides to everything. Always will be. Yin/yang whatever you wanna call it. I just dont think these people are as worried about other people as they are the fact that they just dont like the guy in charge. I dont think the liberals give any more of a fuck about the Iraqi people than I do. They just use it as an excuse to push their ideas of what things should be like.
I think my honest to gosh biggest beef with extreme liberals is this facade of open-mindedness or free thinking that they espouse. Its a crock of shit. They are every bit as illogical and close-minded as their counterparts on the other end of the spectrum. Of course everything is America's fault. Of course terrorism is a false threat. Of course everything the West does is racist and imperialistic. Why aren't you getting the TRUTH?!
Not saying that Ed Vedder is one of these people, by the way. Just taking an opportunity to point out how similar "radicals" on opposite ends of the political spectrum start to sound. Everything blends together, the farther you go. Why do so many people forsake a middle path?
I know you and I do not agree politically...but you are getting a little unfair treatment in this thread...its kinda of a reverse from what I have been reading lately. I have seen some Cons bitching about Ed...okay they can...I have seen Libs bitching about Cons for bitching...but all you are saying is that a more rounded story orientated show is what you wanted to see....you know Ed is political and where he stands so that is not news to yourself...I kinda of feel bad for you in this thread...getting beat up for being disappointed...I see your point kinda of...you mentioned Unplugged with Nirvana..instead of being a great concent which it was...we could have had Kurt bitch about his life for the whole show....all paperplates is saying is that Ed could have put it away for one night and talk about the music...he is not saying that Ed's politics pissed him off cause it isn't news to him where Ed stands....for me I enjoy Ed's views, regardless where he says it...but at the same time I have to be fair to the other side and I completly see your point...some here however don't (or choose to argue) which is too bad...once again getting broke down into left/right and I hate you mentality....
THank you for that.
Maybe liberalism really is a disease.
That IS all I've tried to say. You said it better than me.
Maybe some of them here are the starry-eyed dipshits sitting front row hanging on Ed's every word.
If you dare disagree with ed, they stop reading beyond that point and immediatley jump down your throat here.
Most of the "lefties" here are about as open-minded as "fuck em" is.
I'm not entirely sure about what the substance of the post was, other than him/her being so bunched up about Ed/liberals on this board being huge facists or something.
His original point was he would have liked to see a song meaning related show instead of politics...what is the big deal with wanting that....dont get me wrong I agree with Ed and most of his statements but people have the right to voice their disappointment...which is okay with me....
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Dude, if you could care less about the topic, why are you even here? Why participate in the thread? You seem to care quite a bit. And how am I "crying all over the board"?
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at the end of it tho - i think what many fail to realize is how frustrating it can be for someone with convictions watching the lack of action against a regime that shits in the face of humanity ...
i guess before - many could listen to the songs and like em cuz they can garner their own interpretations but when it comes straight from the horses mouth that it is about this or that ... they just don't wanna hear it ...
I keep coming back to edit, because it's more fun than my work. For example, you probably meant that I "could not care less." Right?
Anyway, you expect to call someone a freak and not have them respond?
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The fans didn't really "deserve" anything specific from the show. Ed talks about what he wants to talk about, and if the band loses fans over it, then I imagine Ed will probably sleep okay, they've gone out of their way to downsize the fanbase before.
If Ed has anywhere near the level of passion about political issues that he seems to have, there's no way in hell that he's going to address a worldwide television audience and not cover political topics. He'd probably feel like he passed up on a huge opportunity if he didn't.
Hahahaha...now would be good.
I was concerned. You didn't seem like your facetious old self. This place is dead without that!
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Besides alive, which songs did we get the interpretations straight from the horses mouth? The songs on the avacado album arent all that cryptic. They really didnt nor do need explanations. I have every right to be disappointed. Thanks for respecting my right to voice my opinions. Open mindedness IS after all, the liberal way.
The freak was a joke.
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But it is their stage and they can do what they want. I loved the Alive moment though. And I was hoping for about 5 more of those type of things.
Anyhow, my original intent wasn't to start a discussion about the topics they covered...just wondered what everyone thought about the manner he approached the question about different ideologies. Is Ed for free speech and free will, or does he want a dictatorship just with someone he agrees with doing the job? It is easy to call for free speech and the like but to actually want it in the truest form is far more difficult. I myself have been learning to accept more and more.
Ed is for free speech. He may disagree with what is coming out of your mouth but he said he respected everyones opinions. He just doesn't like right wingers/republicans. I don't even think Eddie likes Democrats for that matter since they are so similar to Republicans in many ways.
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Not that I care one way or the other ... I loved what I saw, and can't wait to see the rest.
I think Ed is just like many here are. They don't care about our rights. Or free speech. They just want a leader who mimics their opinions. They want a classless society yet only accept their own idealogies, thereby making a classless "fair" society even more impossible.
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Good point.
I agree with many things Eddie has to say but I seriouly doubt anyone would say they were not in favor of free speech.
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Oh. That must be another of your jokes! And maybe the first that was actually funny.
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Wasnt really my point.
But its alot easier to point out problems than it is to offer solutions. Many dont seem to know what it is they do want, just what they dont want. And people who are open minded are far and few between.
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What a bunch of horseshit. What in God's name do you mean by "our rights" and "free speech"? You don't have a fricking constitutional right to hear the songs your want to hear. You don't have a right to have them interpreted and explained to you in a way that you enjoy, either. No one infringed on your free speech rights, and no one deprived you of a single thing. This is an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD, not a democracy. You aren't forced to log on and whine, and you aren't entitled to anything from the band, either.
Jesus Horatio Christ, get over it.
I didnt say it was my right to have any of those things. Show me where I wrote that. It IS my right to be disappointed. Take off your blinders man. I didnt "log on and whine". I didnt create the thread. Cincy did. He asked for opinions. I gave mine. Dont like it? F- you.
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Obviously his (or her) comment ticked you off, but you didn't respond to the substance of it at all. I think he's onto something, actually. Would Ed even mention politics if everything (in his mind) was perfect? Would anyone, for that matter?
Sure you did. You complained about how Eddie's like a lot of people on this board; he doesn't really care about "our rights" and "free speech". That statement implied that he somehow ran roughshod over your rights, and it definitely had a whiny quality to it.
Okay, try this. Ed was on a tv show. He was asked a question and gave his opinion. Don't like it? Fuck you, or, as Ed would say, "Fuck 'em".
Theres always two sides to everything. Always will be. Yin/yang whatever you wanna call it. I just dont think these people are as worried about other people as they are the fact that they just dont like the guy in charge. I dont think the liberals give any more of a fuck about the Iraqi people than I do. They just use it as an excuse to push their ideas of what things should be like.
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I'm perfect and I mention politics.
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Wait . . . I thought Ed was in charge?! I like Ed.
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I really would like to have someone point out when all that happened.
As for the other band members, they all played the Vote for Change tour - and, if I'm not mistaken, they all donated to candidates running against Bush. I guess the differences are in which lefty candidate each sent his money to.
Also, politics may have been the main reason the band decided to play Storytellers. When was the last time they played a concert on music television (note the lowercase "m" and "t")? When was the last time they released a video? It's entirely possible that their distaste with the current direction of our country played a major part in their recent "friendliness" with major media.
Though I do think it's funny to see people write "well, maybe Mike's a conservative." Maybe compared to Ed; but, then, compared to Ed, so am I.
Thats how YOU chose to interpret my words. Take off your blinders, and try and see what Im actually saying. Others have not only got the jist, but even agreed on some points. You sound more like an angry kid than I have. But thats MY opinion.
And I thought the "fuck em" was just a joke.
I never thought Id see the day that Id go from loving pearl jam because of Eddie, to loving pearl jam despite Eddie. Sad day for me.
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I know you and I do not agree politically...but you are getting a little unfair treatment in this thread...its kinda of a reverse from what I have been reading lately. I have seen some Cons bitching about Ed...okay they can...I have seen Libs bitching about Cons for bitching...but all you are saying is that a more rounded story orientated show is what you wanted to see....you know Ed is political and where he stands so that is not news to yourself...I kinda of feel bad for you in this thread...getting beat up for being disappointed...I see your point kinda of...you mentioned Unplugged with Nirvana..instead of being a great concent which it was...we could have had Kurt bitch about his life for the whole show....all paperplates is saying is that Ed could have put it away for one night and talk about the music...he is not saying that Ed's politics pissed him off cause it isn't news to him where Ed stands....for me I enjoy Ed's views, regardless where he says it...but at the same time I have to be fair to the other side and I completly see your point...some here however don't (or choose to argue) which is too bad...once again getting broke down into left/right and I hate you mentality....people are blowing up your statements....
I agree but Eddie doesn't have to offer solutions if he doesn't want to. I am sure Eddie has solutions/ideas/opinions he is too intelligent to not have them. He seems really pissed off the last 4 years and he wants to vent his anger and I don't blame him one bit. I was listenting to one of the Seattle shows in 2000 when he mentioned the Nader rally that was there during the election and someone was holding up Bush signs. Eddie said something to the effect of I hope they got taken in the back and roughed up a little. So I guess he has been a little bit bent since 2000 and newsflash so are a lot of people in this country.
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I'm not entirely sure about what the substance of the post was, other than him/her being so bunched up about Ed/liberals on this board being huge facists or something.
I think my honest to gosh biggest beef with extreme liberals is this facade of open-mindedness or free thinking that they espouse. Its a crock of shit. They are every bit as illogical and close-minded as their counterparts on the other end of the spectrum. Of course everything is America's fault. Of course terrorism is a false threat. Of course everything the West does is racist and imperialistic. Why aren't you getting the TRUTH?!
Not saying that Ed Vedder is one of these people, by the way. Just taking an opportunity to point out how similar "radicals" on opposite ends of the political spectrum start to sound. Everything blends together, the farther you go. Why do so many people forsake a middle path?
THank you for that.
Maybe liberalism really is a disease.
That IS all I've tried to say. You said it better than me.
Maybe some of them here are the starry-eyed dipshits sitting front row hanging on Ed's every word.
If you dare disagree with ed, they stop reading beyond that point and immediatley jump down your throat here.
Most of the "lefties" here are about as open-minded as "fuck em" is.
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His original point was he would have liked to see a song meaning related show instead of politics...what is the big deal with wanting that....dont get me wrong I agree with Ed and most of his statements but people have the right to voice their disappointment...which is okay with me....